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Care at migrant facility has improved under Trump

Discussion in 'General Politics' started by Mountainmanbob, Jul 12, 2019.

  1. Mountainmanbob

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    Pastor who volunteers at Florida migrant shelter blasted by Dems says care at facility is ‘phenomenal’

    Democratic presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren described detained kids at a Homestead, Fla. migrant shelter as treated "like little prisoners." But a pastor who has been volunteering at the shelter since former President Barack Obama was in office tried to set the record straight, telling Fox News care has only "improved" under President Trump.

    Seems many things have improved under the Trump administration.
    M-Bob
     
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  2. FreeinChrist

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    I think that man is deceived, totally. Is he naive enough not to realize that CBP spruce things up before certain visits? The Inspector General report is terrible. Obama didn't order family separation. The children got soap. The toilet facilities worked.

    Everything We Know About the Inhumane Conditions at Migrant Detention Camps
    Sevier, a private-practice physician in the Rio Grande Valley, was granted access to a facility in McAllen, Texas in mid-June, after attorneys discovered a flu outbreak that sent five infants to a neonatal intensive-care unit. At the detention center — the largest such Border Patrol facility in the country — Sevier examined 39 children under the age of 18 facing conditions including “extreme cold temperatures, lights on 24 hours a day, no adequate access to medical care, basic sanitation, water, or adequate food.” All 39 exhibited signs of trauma.

    Sevier told ABC News that the teenagers she observed were not able to wash their hands while in custody, which she called “tantamount to intentionally causing the spread of disease.” Teen mothers in custody told her they were not able to clean their children’s bottles: “To deny parents the ability to wash their infant’s bottles is unconscionable and could be considered intentional mental and emotional abuse,” Sevier wrote. In summary, she determined that “the conditions within which they are held could be compared to torture facilities.”​

    A firsthand report of 'inhumane conditions' at a migrant children's detention facility

    The Associated Press detailed conditions inside a Customs and Border Patrol detention center in Clint, Texas, were, allegedly, 250 infants, children and teenagers are being held.

    According to the AP, there's not adequate food, water or sanitation inside. The report describes teen mothers and other younger kids being asked to care for infants and toddlers on their own, with little or no help from any adults.....

    Basically, what we saw are dirty children who are malnourished, who are being severely neglected. They are being kept in inhumane conditions. They are essentially being warehoused, as many as 300 children in a cell, with almost no adult supervision.

    We have children caring for other young children. For example, we saw a little boy in diapers — or he had no diapers on. He should have had a diaper on. He was 2 years old. And when I was asked why he didn't have diapers on, I was told he didn't need it.

    He immediately urinated. And he was in the care of another child. Children cannot take care of children, and yet that's how they are trying to run this facility. The children are hardly being fed anything nutritious, and they are being medically neglected.​

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    DHS inspector general report reveals squalid conditions at migrant detention centers - CBS News
    The Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) internal watchdog found squalid conditions in several detention centers for migrant families and children in Texas, including "serious" overcrowding, minors going without hot meals for days and detainees begging not to be returned to their cells, according to a new report released Tuesday....

    Overcrowding was rampant in the facilities in the Rio Grande Valley. More than 50 women were crammed in one cell designed to hold 40 male juveniles when investigators visited in June. In another one, designated for 41 detainees, 71 men were packed inside, with some of them signaling their prolonged detention to the inspectors. ...

    The report also detailed living conditions for detained single adults and families that were so grim that detainees made every effort to not be in their cells. Migrants reported getting constipated because of a strict bologna sandwich diet. Most had not showered while in CBP custody and were instead given cleaning wipes for personal hygiene.

    In one CBP facility, migrants who had been removed from their cells while the rooms were being cleaned refused to go back. The desperation got to the point that Border Patrol officers dispatched a special operations unit to demonstrate they were "prepared to use force if necessary." Some migrants purposely clogged toilets with socks so that they would be released from their cells. The inspector general also noted some migrants attempted to escape during maintenance in the facility.

    So they clean it up for some pastor(s). pfft. History will look badly on the US for this. I don't have anything nice or acceptable to say about those who don't care about the neglect and abuse that is occurring.
     
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  3. Mountainmanbob

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    Better than ever.
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  4. Cimorene

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    Are you bragging that the concentration camps are better than ever?
     
  5. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    And despite the clear evidence to the contrary that was posted by you and FreeinChrist.
     
  6. Mountainmanbob

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    Better under Trump then they were under Obama.
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  7. Cimorene

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    Since many of the children caged in Trump's concentration camps hadn't been born yet when Obama was in office, this is technically true.
     
  8. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    Moving the goalposts now, are we?
     
  9. Mountainmanbob

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    Obama's camps.

    Remember Trump has only made things better.
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  10. Shiloh Raven

    Shiloh Raven "After all this time?" Always.

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    Perhaps in the minds of his supporters, but for everyone else who hasn't buried their head in the sand, the articles FreeinChrist and Cimorene clearly reveal the truth of the situation. Not everyone is falling for some fabricated story that Trump or one of his supporters are spewing out to Fox News.

    I think it would be wise to remember that Fox News has a mixed rating for right wing bias, poor sourcing, spreading of conspiracy theories, publishing misleading reports and omitting reporting of information that may damage conservative causes (Fox News - Media Bias/Fact Checking). It would also be wise to take whatever "news" Fox News releases with a grain of salt, and that should include any story by someone whom Fox News personally interviews. The interviews might also be slanted.
     
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  11. Cimorene

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    Again there are children who weren't alive during Obama's administration who were ripped from their parents & are in Trump's concentration camps. Obama did not have the cruel family separation policy; the claim he did is just yet another one of Trump's lies.

    Remember Trump has only made things better for himself & for old people in his fan base.
     
  12. Tom Farebrother

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    M-Bob you appear to be burying your head in the sand here, taking the view of one guy on one place rather than looking at the wider picture.
     
  13. FreeinChrist

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    Trump's own people told him that the changes he was making in the detainment camps would be harmful to children. His AG replied that the president wanted to discourage asylum applications, so the changes would help.

    And here we are, with concentration camps that lack basic requirements even the Nazis provided.
     
  15. The Barbarian

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    Trump Called Publicizing ICE Raids a 'Disgrace.' Then He Started Publicizing Raids
    When Oakland, Calif., Mayor Libby Schaaf warned residents of an upcoming raid by U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement in 2018, President Donald Trump called it a “disgrace to our nation.” Then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions cited ICE officials’ estimates claiming the warning allowed 800 “wanted criminals” to evade arrest.


    “Here’s my message to Mayor Schaaf — how dare you, how dare you needlessly endanger the lives of our law enforcement officers to promote a radical open borders agenda,” he said at a law enforcement conference in California a week and a half later.


    But Trump has had few qualms about publicizing similar ICE raids over the last month.
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    Of course, he himself has played a large role in the “word getting out.” After Trump’s mid-June tweet, the first operation was canceled, and acting Homeland Security Secretary Kevin McAleenan indicated that publicizing the raids could endanger the “safety of the men and women who go out there every day to protect the American people.”
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    It’s unclear why now, with a larger-scale operation across the country in the balance, Trump chose to publicize ICE’s plans, blindsiding even top officials in the agency. While the president’s announcement may have made the headlines he intended, with his supporters going on cable television to praise his crackdown and coverage of the ensuing panic in immigrant communities leading the news, former officials told TIME it’s likely to impede ICE’s arrests and that broadcasting the timeline could endanger ICE agents.

    Announcing a raid beforehand “is just by and large not done” and a “politicization of law enforcement agencies,” said Doris Meissner, former commissioner of the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service, a precursor agency to ICE, about Trump’s announcement of immigration raids.
    Trump Called Publicizing ICE Raids a 'Disgrace.' Then He Started Publicizing Raids
     
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