Abortion is the ending of an innocent human life, people shouldn't be forced to pay for someone else's through premiums or taxes.
Its covered; this doesn't mean you're paying to have an abortion
unless you actually want one, and do. You're not being forced to pay for anything unless you actually need it. If you don't have genital warts, your premiums still cover the expense incase you do contract genital warts. Your premiums don't cover a common cold, unless you get a cold and seek treatment.
You're acting as if this money is going toward something you're not going to have. But thats what insurance is:
just incase if you do, the premiums cover it.
He wasn't comparing women to cars, he was talking about preparation he takes in his everyday life to meet disasters which he doesn't plan on - when confronted about the matter. Are you so enamored with the concept of someone a woman hasn't even met being forced to pay for her abortion that you're making a mountain out of this molehill?
He made the direct comparison that women and their bodies are nothing more than auto parts. These are representatives we elected: I don't want any of them to be sexually objectifying women by saying their sexual reproductive organs are simply nothing but things you can get at Autozone.
That baby is paying the ultimate price, and that remember that baby is not the rapist.
When a woman is raped and impregnated, and after three weeks elects to abort it, I don't think you can play "the baby is the victim" card when its not even a baby.
Even if we pretend a child is nothing but a kidney, removing a healthy kidney is not a medical expense.
No bc its a healthy kidney.
med·i·cal 
1. of or pertaining to the science or practice of medicine: medical history; medical treatment.
2. curative; medicinal; therapeutic: medical properties.
3. pertaining to or requiring treatment by other than surgical means.
I'd say removing a fetus that would grow into a genetically mutated methaddicted baby whose father is a methhead and psychotic is therapeutic, to the would be baby and to the mother. You can't force someone to have a baby they didn't want, but were force insemeinated with.
Technically, surgery itself isn't medical. Abortion is not curative.
You could justify all kinds of stuff insurance covers that isnt "curative" or "therapeutic" or "medical" from the broad sense of topicality you're presenting. You're not making much sense.
Of course, abortion is murder
Its not since its not a person, its a zygote or fetus.
and it's tyrannical to force people to pay for murder.
My insurance premium doesn't cover abortion bc
im not going to have an abortion. The premiums cover it
if the person elects for the procedure. You only pay for it
if you get it.
See, thats what you don't understand. You don't even know how insurance works.
Even if you want to pretend a man and woman's child is just a kidney, it's still tyranny to force people to pay for what they think is murder.
Its not tyrannical; irrational people view it as tyrannical, and guess what? We don't cater to irrational people just bc they have trouble processing reality.
But, Hitler forced the German taxpayers to pay for the Holocaust. So, I guess the lesson is, mass murderers are't too concerned with tyranny.
Way to Godwin the thread already.
BTW: its not murder.
So, you'd throw an hysterical fit if I compared patching an artery in a heart bypass operation to patching a water hose? "BOOHOO, PEOPLE ARE NOT WATER HOSES!!!!!" I don't think so. Besides, if you don't like the analogy, move on. The rightness or wrongness of this bill has nothing to do with the validity of an analogy.
Now you're just being irrational. The analogy wasn't valid bc it
sexually objectifies women. Of course, there are plenty of men who find nothing wrong with sexually objectifying women, this place being a good example.
One of the best ways to reduce medical costs would be to let people be more selective about the kind of insurance they want. I should be able to save some money by buying medical insurance that doesn't cover smoking. I don't want to pay for insurance that covers elective surgeries (abortion is about the only elective surgery normally covered). Why do you hate freedom of choice?
Yeah, and when you break your leg and call the insurance company, they'll tell you that it isn't covered. "Uh, yeah, you only bought insurance for a broken arm, not a leg. AND, it only covers broken arms when you fall out of trees, not when you play sports." No one is being forced to pay for something they don't want, or aren't going to get; however, if you do so happen to get an abortion, it is covered.
In any debate, it's easy to see which side is the right side, it's the side that isn't being disingenuous.
Its easy to see which side doesn't even know what they're talking about.
no one is being forced to pay for abortions no more or less than you're being forced to pay for a common cold.
I knew when I made this thread we'd see the armchair experts come out of the woodworks explaining their total ignorance of how insurance works.
