Abortion debate trivializes rape, objectifies women

[mpok1519]

Abortion debate trivializes rape - CNN


Kansas legislators passed a bill which would ban private insurance companies from providing the resources to women who choose to have an abortion, unless they paid an additional rider fee in case they were raped or incestuously impregnated. Republicans compared this to buying a spare tire for your car in case it gets a flat.

Thats right ladies; you're auto parts.

I can't begin to tell you how much this infuriates me. This is our state representatives basically comparing women to cars, and in other states, one guy even said that rape is apart of God's plan.

"Tea partier Sharron Angle raised eyebrows during the 2010 midterm election by suggesting rape and incest victims who become pregnant and do not have an abortion made a "lemon situation into lemonade" -- but at least she lost and cannot mandate that rape victims make lemonade. These guys are in office and affecting policy. Last month, while debating a similar ban, Idaho State Rep. Brent Crane said rape was the "hand of the Almighty" at work."

 

[Notamonkey]

Nah, the baby is "auto parts" to liberals. Notice as per usual, you make no mention of the baby. Rape, nor abortion is a part of God's plan.

 

[KarateCowboy]

Nah, the baby is "auto parts" to liberals. Notice as per usual, you make no mention of the baby. Rape, nor abortion is a part of God's plan.

The OP trivializes children and human life, for sure.

 

[HerbieHeadley]

The OP trivializes children and human life, for sure.

Yup! Mean Ole Pro-Lifers...

 

[mpok1519]

Nah, the baby is "auto parts" to liberals. Notice as per usual, you make no mention of the baby.

Notice that this isn't what the article is about. Never has a democrat equated a baby to autoparts. Republicans compared people(women) to cars and autoparts.

Rape, nor abortion is a part of God's plan.

Tell that to the Idaho GOP representative. He thinks its perfectly within God's will for women to be raped and for those women to carry the pregnancy they were forced with.

The OP trivializes children and human life, for sure.

More exhibition of ignorance by KC! Clap clap!

Yup! Mean Ole Pro-Lifers...

Notice how not one of you are women, yet claim to know whats best for them!

 

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Only God is the Lord and giver of life...

Lord have mercy on us sinners.

 

[HerbieHeadley]

Only God is the Lord and giver of life...

Lord have mercy on us sinners.

Amen! Please forgive me Father, In Jesus name I beg your mercy.

 

[CTD]

I can't begin to tell you how much this infuriates me. This is our state representatives basically comparing women to cars, and in other states, one guy even said that rape is apart of God's plan.

Not much challenge guessing that one's religion. Even less challenge guessing how it was reported, and how easily he got press attention. Respect for the intelligence of propaganda targets is non-existent.

 

[katherine2001]

Only 1% of abortions involve rape or incest. The great majority of abortions are given to women who freely made the decision to have sex. Sex can end up in conception, even using birth control, as no method of birth control is 100% effective. When you make a decision, you have to accept the consequences. Why should a baby die just because the couple doesn't want to accept the consequences of their decision. The baby has no say in how it was conceived--why should it be the one to pay with its life? Also, if a woman who was a victim of rape or incest aborts her baby, then it just gives her another horrible thing that she is going to have to live with--having murdered another human being.

 

[Incariol]

Also, if a woman who was a victim of rape or incest aborts her baby, then it just gives her another horrible thing that she is going to have to live with--having murdered another human being.

This is true for some, but the research literature doesn't lend credence to negative psychological outcome from elective abortion.

 

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How exactly does the Kansas legislature suppose it has the authority to ban private insurance agreements that cover completely legal medical procedures?

 

[lux et lex]

How exactly does the Kansas legislature suppose it has the authority to ban private insurance agreements that cover completely legal medical procedures?

This is what I wanted to know.

 

[variant]

This is what I wanted to know.

It's really odd, I can not imagine a legal argument for saying I have a right to medical privacy while simultaneously denying me freedom of contract based upon it.

So, if were looking at this from the perspective of Griswold instead of Roe, a state has the right to make it illegal for me to purchase private medical insurance that covers contraception?

How about this question: When does this amazing right of the state to interfere with my private medical insurance contracts stop?

 

[Incariol]

It's really odd, I can not imagine a legal argument for saying I have a right to medical privacy while simultaneously denying me freedom of contract based upon it.

So, if were looking at this from the perspective of Griswold instead of Roe, a state has the right to make it illegal for me to purchase private medical insurance that covers contraception?

How about this question: When does this amazing right of the state to interfere with my private medical insurance contracts stop?

So much for small government.

 

[NvxiaLee]

I pitty the woman who hooks up with LZ Granderson (the author of that pro-abortion garbage). When she gets pregnant, LZ Granderson's attitude will be "I'm a dude, so I don't really have a dog in this race."

Insurance is very highly regulated by the government. As it is now, insurance companies are forced to cover abortions. The Kansas law would separate medical coverage from elective abortion. This way, people who don't want their insurance premiums covering elective abortion wouldn't be forced to pay for the elective abortions of those who kill their babies.

There's absolutely no hardship in a woman signing up for abortion coverage when she signs up for medical coverage. It'll probably be as simple as checking a box on the insurance app. So, ignore the crocodile tears of the abortion lobby.

 

[Sketcher]

So . . . people won't be forced to finance abortions with their health insurance premiums? It takes a pretty twisted mind to spin that as a bad thing.

 

[Incariol]

So . . . people won't be forced to finance abortions with their health insurance premiums? It takes a pretty twisted mind to spin that as a bad thing.

I don't see why. It seems pretty neutral to me.

 

[mpok1519]

Only 1% of abortions involve rape or incest. The great majority of abortions are given to women who freely made the decision to have sex. Sex can end up in conception, even using birth control, as no method of birth control is 100% effective. When you make a decision, you have to accept the consequences. Why should a baby die just because the couple doesn't want to accept the consequences of their decision. The baby has no say in how it was conceived--why should it be the one to pay with its life? Also, if a woman who was a victim of rape or incest aborts her baby, then it just gives her another horrible thing that she is going to have to live with--having murdered another human being.

Now please tell me how this emotionalist rant applies to the OP?

Why does what you say justify a law that forces women to pay for "rape" insurance just in case bc its like buying a spare tire?

 

[mpok1519]

This is what I wanted to know.

Its in appeals; the higher courts will strike this down no doubt. But just the idea of it being an actual state bill is shocking.

 

[mpok1519]

So . . . people won't be forced to finance abortions with their health insurance premiums?

A woman's choice is to have an abortion; shes not being forced with anything. She pays a premium to cover medical expenses.

It takes a pretty twisted mind to spin that as a bad thing.

The fact that one already spends money on a premium that covers medical expenses suddenly wont cover what is a medical expenditure. It takes a twisted mind to compare women to cars just to champion a radical right wing freakish agenda that panders to the most uneducated of the populous who would percieve women as cars.