“WHAT DO I DO? WHAT DO I DO?”: TRUMP DESPERATE, DESPONDENT AS NUMBERS CRATER, “LOSER” LABEL LOOMS

[Albion]

Yes, a Vanity Fair editorial that sums up the reality of the situation very well.

How would you or we know that to be so? Certainly not the reputation of Vanity Fair.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

You can thank Democrat governors and mayors for ruining a good economy.

You can thank Democrat governors and mayors for ruining a good economy.

The economy of the US relies on Democratic governors who govern the most productive states like NJ and NY. The taker states are mostly run by Republican governors and mayors.

 

[Chesterton]

I’m not saying it was Trump’s fault. It’s just that he didn’t built the “best ever” economy. If the economy was truly the “best ever,” it could whether places being shut down for a few months because the companies had savings to tied them over, land owners would have been able to survive a few months of missed rent payments, and people would be able to survive a few months without a paycheck. That was not the case. Not Trump’s fault it wasn’t, but he can’t take credit for a great economy that never actually existed.

Okay, well I don't actually know what the "best ever" economy was. The Roman Empire? The Mongol? The British? Maybe I misspoke.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

How would you or we know that to be so? Certainly not the reputation of Vanity Fair.

What's "the reputation of Vanity Fair"?

 

[Chesterton]

The economy of the US relies on Democratic governors who govern themost productive states like NJ an NY. The taker states are mostly run by Republican governors and mayors.

Those are the most productive states? The state of New York pays to run TV commercials in my state begging businesses to relocate to New York.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

Okay, well I don't actually know what the "best ever" economy was. The Roman Empire? The Mongol? The British? Maybe I misspoke.

I don’t know what the “best ever” economy was either but I know what we had wasn’t it. Just like I don’t know what the square root of 4712 is but I know the answer isn’t 6. Just because I don’t know the right answer doesn’t mean I can’t identify a wrong answer.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Those are the most productive states? The state of New York pays to run TV commercials in my state begging businesses to relocate to New York.

Your state is a taker state. NY gives billions of dollars to the Federal government which NY never sees again; the Federal government then redistributes that to your state which funnels it to the pockets of you and the other constituents, in one way or another.

If you are OK with that socialism because it's in your favor, that's fine, you have the right to. But don't pretend it's not socialism that funnels money out of a productive state into your taker state to prop up your state's shortfalls.

Is the biggest city in your state as productive as NY City? What industries are based in your state's biggest city? NY has many GLOBAL industries based in the city. How do your state's biggest cities combined stack up to the economic might of NYC?

 

[Chesterton]

Your state is a taker state. NY gives billions of dollars to the Federal government which NY never sees again; the Federal government then redistributes that to your state which funnels it to the pockets of you and the other constituents, in one way or another.

If you are OK with that socialism because it's in your favor, that's fine, you have the right to. But don't pretend it's not socialism that funnels money out of a productive state into your taker state to prop up your state's shortfalls.

Is the biggest city in your state as productive as NY City? What industries are based in your state's biggest city? NY has many GLOBAL industries based in the city. How do your state's biggest cities combined stack up to the economic might of NYC?

Yes, we're bigger than you. Honestly, if you were going to start up a small business, where would you want to do it? Down here, or where the police will choke you to death for selling single cigarettes that you own (Eric Garner) because they're enforcing authoritarian Democrat laws?

 

[camille70]

Those are the most productive states? The state of New York pays to run TV commercials in my state begging businesses to relocate to New York.

Cuomo says NY has been bailing out other states for decades

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1254808669025337344?s=20

 

[ArmenianJohn]

Yes, we're bigger than you. Honestly, if you were going to start up a small business, where would you want to do it? Down here, or where the police will choke you to death for selling single cigarettes that you own (Eric Garner) because they're enforcing authoritarian Democrat laws?

No, you're not bigger, and that's a fact.

I've started a few small businesses here in NJ and NY and still run a couple of them. I make good income from them. Down there I would make peanuts but I'd get the benefit of low taxes due to the redistribution of wealth from states like NY and NJ.

My business would not be loose cigarette dealer, and since I'm not black I wouldn't have to worry about racist cops choking me to death. Where you live, it's no different anyway. Are you saying that where you live it's legal to sell loose cigarettes as a "small business"? And you're complaining that NY has regulations against it? You should find a new small business idea, that's my advice. But you have just as much authoritarian law where you live as NYC has.

 

[Kentonio]

And that's important to his leadership how?

Being able to form coherent sentences is generally considered a bit of a requirement for a leadership position.

 

[Chesterton]

Cuomo says NY has been bailing out other states for decades

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1254808669025337344?s=20

So giving is a an indicator of productivity? Sounds more like a sign of voting for bad politicians.

 

[Sparagmos]

What's up with the Democrat convention? Are they gonna let Biden out of his bunker, or just send a cardboard cutout of him with someone lip synching from a BLM teleprompter?

Seems like they could do that and people would vote for the cardboard cutout over Trump.

 

[Chesterton]

No, you're not bigger, and that's a fact.

You're wrong. Search engine it.

I've started a few small businesses here in NJ and NY and still run a couple of them. I make good income from them. Down there I would make peanuts but I'd get the benefit of low taxes due to the redistribution of wealth from states like NY and NJ.

How could you possibly make less down here? We don't even have state income tax!

My business would not be loose cigarette dealer, and since I'm not black I wouldn't have to worry about racist cops choking me to death. Where you live, it's no different anyway. Are you saying that where you live it's legal to sell loose cigarettes as a "small business"? And you're complaining that NY has regulations against it? You should find a new small business idea, that's my advice. But you have just as much authoritarian law where you live as NYC has.

Wow, that's a really racist thing to say. But yes, I am complaining that a man can't sell private property that he owns.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

So giving is a an indicator of productivity? Sounds more like a sign of voting for bad politicians.

You can only give when you produce enough to have extra to give. Yes, giving is absolutely an indicator of productivity.

I don't think you're going to convince anyone that NYC isn't far more productive than your state's cities COMBINED. Everyone knows that NYC is virtually the capital of the world for most industries, let alone the capital of the US for the most industries.

Do you even know where Wall Street is???? (I can tell you where it isn't: YOUR state)

 

[Chesterton]

Being able to form coherent sentences is generally considered a bit of a requirement for a leadership position.

Coherent sentences are nice, but no, it's about decision making.

 

[ArmenianJohn]

You're wrong. Search engine it.

You're wrong and the burden of proof is on you. Of course you're hiding your location because you fear the truth being exposed...

How could you possibly make less down here? We don't even have state income tax!

Because the pay is so low down there compared to Manhattan, costs and prices are so low there. That's how it is in those kinds of states - very little money to go around. But you are subsidized by NY, NJ, etc.

Wow, that's a really racist thing to say. But yes, I am complaining that a man can't sell private property that he owns.

How is it racist?

So you would complain if someone wasn't allowed to sell the meth he owns on the street, right?

 

[Chesterton]

You can only give when you produce enough to have extra to give. Yes, giving is absolutely an indicator of productivity.

I don't think you're going to convince anyone that NYC isn't far more productive than your state's cities COMBINED. Everyone knows that NYC is virtually the capital of the world for most industries, let alone the capital of the US for the most industries.

Do you even know where Wall Street is???? (I can tell you where it isn't: YOUR state)

You strike me as more of an Occupy Wall Street type, but now you're all proud of big business and Wall Street. Hilarious. Maybe you're just racist against Texans.

 

[Chesterton]

You're wrong and the burden of proof is on you.

I told you, search engine it. I did. Every site said our economy is bigger. But this is common knowledge. California is No. 1, Texas is No. 2. (I'm really not going to continue a urinating contest about this.)

Of course you're hiding your location because you fear the truth being exposed...

Hiding my location? What? You want my street address?

Because the pay is so low down there compared to Manhattan, costs and prices are so low there. That's how it is in those kinds of states - very little money to go around. But you are subsidized by NY, NJ, etc.

Wait, you bragged about being a business owner. Low pay would increase your income.

How is it racist?

You're seriously asking that?

So you would complain if someone wasn't allowed to sell the meth he owns on the street, right?

Meth is illegal, tobacco isn't.

 

[Sparagmos]

So giving is a an indicator of productivity? Sounds more like a sign of voting for bad politicians.

Yes, the states where businesses make the most profit and people make high incomes naturally deliver a higher tax revenue.