DavidPT
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5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who shares in the first resurrection! Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and they shall reign with him a thousand years.
I have absolutely no problem accepting that the DEAD have two resurrections. The Martyred are resurrected when Jesus Returns, and the rest of the dead are resurrected after the thousand years.
And in reference to your Rev. 1 & Rev. 6, -- men who are alive when Jesus returns or born during the Millennial Kingdom with join the Martyred as "priests" to GOD.
Did you think that the "raptured church" is mentioned, thereby justifying a "tribulation-era rapture"? -- No. All we can believe is that the DEAD rise first, per Rev. 20:
7 And when the thousand years are ended, ...
13 ... the sea gave up the dead in it, Death and Hades gave up the dead in them, and all were judged by what they had done.
... and that those who are alive and remain on earth shall be caught up to the New Jerusalem to be with the LORD forever in the air.
And of course the heavens and the earth shall pass away.
Thanks,
DaDad
Is the following basically your position then?
1 Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning the martyrs which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so the martyrs also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent the martyrs which are asleep.
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead martyrs in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the martyrs in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with the martyrs in the clouds. How is this fulfilled at the time if this rapture is meaning a thousand years after the dead martyrs in Christ rise first? Doesn't verse 17 clearly connect the rising of the dead in Christ, and the rapture of the living, as occurring during the same event? Verses 14-16 don't occur twice at different times, do they?
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