The Mark of the Beast

The Mark of the Beast. It seems reasonable to me that those who accept the Mark and burn in Hell forever won't believe it is what it is.

dollarsbill said:

The Mark of the Beast. It seems reasonable to me that those who accept the Mark and burn in Hell forever won't believe it is what it is.

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it seems to me that those that portrayn that they won't accept the mark of the beast won't accept that it is what it is
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amen a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]in men and amen

some christ in this forum?
what up with that?

dollarsbill said:

The Mark of the Beast. It seems reasonable to me that those who accept the Mark and burn in Hell forever won't believe it is what it is.

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Worse yet is that as we creep closer and closer to it's implementation, the scoffer's numbers increase.

Used to be the SSN was the first step towards implementation and the Christian community was quite vocal. Many people within the Church protested and actually fled being numbered in that manner. Now, we see the SSN as a necessary number, which without it, we can not attain medical care, purchase a home, rent and apt, apply for a credit card, access internet services, have a home phone or utility or even work a job.

However, the SSN was far to generalized to have been the mark. A private number, known only to family and self, along with those merchants and govt officials using it to deliver services. But still, it must be shown for such, then tucked back neatly into a wallet, purse, or the temporal lobe.

The SSN was the forerunner of the CC. The C/C was originally copied by a vendor who then sent the copy to the credit company to recieve payment for your goods. As technology increased, instant payment authorizations put a suspicious eye on the c/c. However, it CAN NOT be the mark because there are many other methods of payment for goods and services. And how would employees receive compensation for services. The check and cash, limit the c/c's potential to be the mark.
Although, as paypal allowed consumers the ability to recieve payment onto their cards, the new card reader and app, allow us to simply let someone swipe their card to your phone, instantly paying you for your items or services.
The beasts are smarter than we give them credit for. They know that an instantaneous switch to a cashless society would stir a real revolution, not just some tea party grass roots movement to instigate a satanic theocracy.

Slowly but surely, the idea of a cashless society in which all men, master and servant, rich and poor will be linked to a global mainframe where every transaction between men will be recorded.

How many days of freedom do we have?

Why must it be some kind of technology - like a computer chip? This is the same kind of false interpretation Hal Lindsey and others are putting forward...The whole point of the mark of the beast is to prevent Christians from "buying and selling." In other words, unless one bows to the Antichrist, he or she can not buy or sell the necessities of life. This is designed to force one into a conversion to the religion of the Antichrist (Islam)...Imagine a mother who needs medicine for her baby to survive; What does she do?

If "the whole world" converts to the religion of the Antichrist after the War of Gog and Magog and the Antichrist's "parousia" or appearing with "great wonders and miracles," why is it necessary to embed the whole world with a computer chip to control them FROM buying and selling? A simple tattoo will suffice, because the followers of the Antichrist will police the buying and selling - those who have the mark will buy and sell, those who do not have the mark of the beast can not buy or sell in my store. It is really just that simple...Furthermore, the world doesn't even possess the manufacturing capabilities necessary to build and embed a computer chip in everyone on the planet...

I'm not loosing any sleep over it.Mankind will know what it is when the time comes..and not before.All folks can do can do about identifying what it will be right now,is speculate,which is a waste of time,IMHO.

Richard Neal said:

Why must it be some kind of technology - like a computer chip? This is the same kind of false interpretation Hal Lindsey and others are putting forward...The whole point of the mark of the beast is to prevent Christians from "buying and selling." In other words, unless one bows to the Antichrist, he or she can not buy or sell the necessities of life. This is designed to force one into a conversion to the religion of the Antichrist (Islam)...Imagine a mother who needs medicine for her baby to survive; What does she do?

If "the whole world" converts to the religion of the Antichrist after the War of Gog and Magog and the Antichrist's "parousia" or appearing with "great wonders and miracles," why is it necessary to embed the whole world with a computer chip to control them FROM buying and selling? A simple tattoo will suffice, because the followers of the Antichrist will police the buying and selling - those who have the mark will buy and sell, those who do not have the mark of the beast can not buy or sell in my store. It is really just that simple...Furthermore, the world doesn't even possess the manufacturing capabilities necessary to build and embed a computer chip in everyone on the planet...

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Two things brother.

While I wholeheartedly believe Islam is a horrible misrepresentation of the Abramic faith, it is the Islamists who are being FIRST assimilated into the NWO since it is them who wage war against the beasts in futility. Yes, they have drawn the ire of the beasts and the war against them seems an honorable cause, but we must never forget that satan does not hide himself in our enemy, but in ourselves.

Second. I want to address the valid point you make about imposing this technology globally and the insurmountable challenges required to do so.

The Word is clear.....the mark is through worship of the beast, it's image or receiving it's number. Microchip=666. However, dependent third world nations would not be required to recieve such a chip because they already follow after the beast and worship it for giving it sustenance. UNICEF, Feed the Children, Global Food Initiative, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.

freezerman2000 said:

I'm not loosing any sleep over it.Mankind will know what it is when the time comes..and not before.All folks can do can do about identifying what it will be right now,is speculate,which is a waste of time,IMHO.

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Mankind can barely realize and acknowledge the current times we are in. Think of how many good Christian people across the globe are unaware of the times.Do you really think the average person who does not know God and Christ will realize the mark when it is implemented?

I hope and pray that whatever the mark is and whenever its implemented people will know it. But then again the Bible does tell us they wont know now doesn't it. People will be so deceived they will want and desire the mark.

I think we can all learn a lesson about mankind and its ability to be deceived or deny the truth from the teachers of the law during Jesus' time. The teachers of the Law who knew God's word like the back of their hand failed to realize the Messiah when he walked the earth in their presence. Makes me wonder how easily people will be deceived by the mark.

ephesians4:2 said:

Mankind can barely realize and acknowledge the current times we are in. Think of how many good Christian people across the globe are unaware of the times.Do you really think the average person who does not know God and Christ will realize the mark when it is implemented?

I hope and pray that whatever the mark is and whenever its implemented people will know it. But then again the Bible does tell us they wont know now doesn't it. People will be so deceived they will want and desire the mark.

I think we can all learn a lesson about mankind and its ability to be deceived or deny the truth from the teachers of the law during Jesus' time. The teachers of the Law who knew God's word like the back of their hand failed to realize the Messiah when he walked the earth in their presence. Makes me wonder how easily people will be deceived by the mark.

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Good point

This stuff is just amazing! It's incredulous to think John was relaying this to a 1st century audience.

The mark of the beast is simply figurative of what we think and do. The forehead represents how we think, he right hand mark is representative of what we do.

How many references in the scripture do we have about the "forehead" and the "right hand"?

Here are some:

Exodus 13:9
And it shall serve as a sign to you on your hand, and as a reminder on your forehead, that the law of the LORD may be in your mouth; for with a powerful hand the LORD brought you out of Egypt.

Job 40:14
“Then I will also confess to you, That your own right hand can save you.

So it shall serve as a sign on your hand and as phylacteries on your forehead, for with a powerful hand the LORD brought us out of Egypt.”

Deuteronomy 11:18
“ You shall therefore impress these words of mine on your heart and on your soul; and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontals on your forehead.

Psalm 16:8
I have set the LORD continually before me; Because He is at my right hand, I will not be shaken.

We have to look at these thing in light of the people to whom they were written. The right hand and the forehead meant things to those people.

Those are wonderful scriptures indeed, however they do not disprove a literal mark of the beast. "And that no man buy or sell, save he had the mark." The mark is clearly portrayed as tangible in that one is enabled to buy and sell because of it.

KJV1611Warrior said:

Those are wonderful scriptures indeed, however they do not disprove a literal mark of the beast. "And that no man buy or sell, save he had the mark." The mark is clearly portrayed as tangible in that one is enabled to buy and sell because of it.

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That's because you keep thinking that prophecy is to us today. It wasn't written to us...it was written for us.

To deny Christians to buy and sell was very easy to do because Christians refused to worship the Emperor as well as other deities.

That doesn't make the point though. Just as if this chip was to happen what do you think it would create? It would create a Christian black market.

If you've never read Tacitus or Josephus works you won't understand Christians were denied because the refused to worship Caesar.

Do you expect this mark to be literal?:
Rev 14:1;
Then I looked, and behold, the Lamb was standing on Mount Zion, and with Him one hundred and forty-four thousand, having His name and the name of His Father written on their foreheads.

Yes I do. Back to the mark of the beast. It will be more than a chip. I don't even know whether it will be a chip or not, however it is clear that the mark will fuse oneself with the A/C and identify oneself in allegiance to him. I lean to a transhumanisn, DNA tampering, hybrid fusion with fallen angelic DNA. Just like the pre flood world when the Angels were procreating with humans. Daniel 2:43 reveals the same thing with iron and miry clay.

KJV1611Warrior said:

Yes I do. Back to the mark of the beast. It will be more than a chip. I don't even know whether it will be a chip or not, however it is clear that the mark will fuse oneself with the A/C and identify oneself in allegiance to him. I lean to a transhumanisn, DNA tampering, hybrid fusion with fallen angelic DNA. Just like the pre flood world when the Angels were procreating with humans.

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Amazing.

What's next? Darth Vader will lead them?

Interesting you should mention Vader as Star Wars has been a lethal weapon to indoctrinate the masses, as well as the Matrix. Have you also noticed the fixation with superheros? Spiderman (hybrid), Superman (hybrid), Batman (hybrid), X Men (hybrids), etc. Indoctrination. Most people will gladly take an "upgrade" because they have been force fed hybrid super heros all their lives. Notice that no one is forced to take the mark, the are caused to take it. The world is primed and ready for the Antichrist. He has been appearing in movies for generations.

Originally Posted by ephesians4:2

Mankind can barely realize and acknowledge the current times we are in. Think of how many good Christian people across the globe are unaware of the times.Do you really think the average person who does not know God and Christ will realize the mark when it is implemented?

I hope and pray that whatever the mark is and whenever its implemented people will know it. But then again the Bible does tell us they wont know now doesn't it. People will be so deceived they will want and desire the mark.

I think we can all learn a lesson about mankind and its ability to be deceived or deny the truth from the teachers of the law during Jesus' time. The teachers of the Law who knew God's word like the back of their hand failed to realize the Messiah when he walked the earth in their presence. Makes me wonder how easily people will be deceived by the mark.

mathetes123 said:

Good point

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I second that.

ebedmelech said:

To deny Christians to buy and sell was very easy to do because Christians refused to worship the Emperor as well as other deities.

That doesn't make the point though. Just as if this chip was to happen what do you think it would create? It would create a Christian black market.

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First off, Christians could have traveled east or south out of the grip of the empire and bought and sold and held jobs just as any others, that is IF they were welcome. But let's not pretend the potential for such was not there. The world was far greater than the California sized Roman Empire.

Second. It takes cash to start a black market. Meaning in your hypothetical, someone having received the mark would pay real money(debits/credits/whichever) to receive goods, and then sell it on a market for nothing tangible whatsoever. In a microchipped society, cash will be useless. A man's labor may be worth something to a marked man, as would something that could be traded on the global market....silver, gold, diamonds etc. But it aint hard to see the push for the beasts to collect ALL the precious metals just prior to it's implementation. It's happening right now across the globe and has caused the 600% increase in the value of these metals.

KJV1611Warrior said:

Yes I do. Back to the mark of the beast. It will be more than a chip. I don't even know whether it will be a chip or not, however it is clear that the mark will fuse oneself with the A/C and identify oneself in allegiance to him. I lean to a transhumanisn, DNA tampering, hybrid fusion with fallen angelic DNA. Just like the pre flood world when the Angels were procreating with humans. Daniel 2:43 reveals the same thing with iron and miry clay.

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My understanding of the iron and clay in today's world is the division created by satan among Christians politically. We are essentially divided straight in half, and as a divide Church, we are weak to stand against the satanic powers behind our earthly masters.

Jesus Christ is the Rock, foundation upon which His church is built. We were promised that the gates of hell would not prevail against us. Also we are told that the weapons of our warfare are mighty and many other passages describing our powerful assets in Christ. The Iron represents demonic angelic rulers and clay represents the earthly princes that are doing their bidding. The leaders of the nations are actively enslaving, indoctrinating, deceiving, hypnotizing, and weakening mankind through music, education, movies, the news media, medicine, and psychology. Look at all the occult symbols paraded in front of us, e.g., CBS (all seeing eye), prozac (sun disc), pentagrams, hexograms, fleur de lis, pyramids, coiled snakes, double helix (DNA). Do a google search about occult symbols used by corporations, government office, look at the satanic ritual embodied within the opening and closing ceremonies of the Olympics and Paralympics, and so on.