This maybe disprove god but what do you think of it?

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. Ok so Adam and Eve had syndactly of the phalanges .All the bones in their fingers and toes formed one club Because death didn’t exist then so their digits couldn’t separate

Is that really death...what does the death of a human, tree, or animal accomplish?
 
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I don’t mix fantasy religious beliefs with science because it tends to make religion look stupid .that said, I think some of the Bible stories are just that, stories.

What criteria are you using to make such a judgement?
 
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What criteria are you using to make such a judgement?
the fact that verifiable and verified evidence rules them out. Any version of Noah’s Flood would have left the entire surface of the planet hot enough to melt lead
 
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the fact that verifiable and verified evidence rules them out. Any version of Noah’s Flood would have left the entire surface of the planet hot enough to melt lead

Is the resurrection ruled out...both Lazarus' and the Messiah's?
 
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I sometimes think the relationship that God had with his creation, and the reason why Science can’t find God is like the relationship an artist has with his painting.

The painting is all the artists creation. It expresses the artists thoughts, values and personality. But no matter how hard you look at the painting you won’t find the artist. The most you will find is the artists written signature, his word which he has chosen to insert into his painting.
 
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Is the resurrection ruled out...both Lazarus' and the Messiah's?
. Is there evidence for any of this ? No! Then it’s a dogma about a miracle. SCIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH NATURAL PHENOMENA !!!! And there are no dogmas in science
 
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So you think natural is what people call supernatural. OK, but don't be surprised if people have no idea what you're talking about...

I only want to remind folks that this current state of corruption seen in nature...is not natural, i.e., not as created to be.
 
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How do you know that we wont know?


I was speaking more to the point that not all will die. I already know that this world is unnatural.
 
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What evidence?

*Or did you mean there is no evidence that rules them out?
There is no evidence. There is no empirical evidence which would allow us to conclude that the resurrection of Christ or the resurrection of Lazarus did not happen.
 
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. Is there evidence for any of this ? No! Then it’s a dogma about a miracle. SCIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH NATURAL PHENOMENA !!!! And there are no dogmas in science

Yes...there is...for one,this world still exists, because of His death and resurrection. A miracle is simply something science cannot explain, because science is all about death (perpetual division). A better thing to yell is "SCIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH UNNATURAL PHENOMENA AS FOUND IN A CORRUPT CREATION!!!!" I believe there are dogmas in science...how else would there be a method?
 
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I only want to remind folks that this current state of corruption seen in nature...is not natural, i.e., not as created to be.
What 'current state of corruption' specifically?

Are you suggesting that something has happened that God didn't intend?
 
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. Is there evidence for any of this ? No! Then it’s a dogma about a miracle. SCIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH NATURAL PHENOMENA !!!! And there are no dogmas in science
Science has dogma also.

Dark energy and dark matter is an attempt to explain events and cannot be observed or even detected. In fact, nearly the entire universe is beyond detection by science. One must accept the existence of dark energy otherwise the universe cannot be understood.

One must accept invisible energy, like it or not, and that is dogma.
 
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Sure there is...look around.:hypno:
Like what? A one-time event like that which left no physical evidence behind that we could possibly discover? Science could reach no conclusions about it at all.
 
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