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This maybe disprove god but what do you think of it?

Discussion in 'Physical & Life Sciences' started by Principium, Jun 27, 2019.

  1. Principium

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    I will try to explain what I`m thinking about so simple as possible and here it goes, I don`t know, I always imagened life as a swirling form of energy sort of, bright and swirling in empty space and wanting to have a solid body to walk around in on a planet perhaps, because think about it, how would life form out of nothing on a planet and know how to build a psycical body to move around in, there must have been a will to begin with, where did this will come from to begin with, I think it started with the big bang sort of and life started to evolve in empty space and slowly learning how to build planets and rocks to have something solid to move around on, so big bang theory itself is kinda wrong also beause they say it`s just a explosion of energy, I think the logical explaination is that this life form slowly learned how to spread itself throughout space and how to make stones and planets, think about it, what is really matter? I think matter is energy or this life form in a colder sort of form, this life form cools down when away from the sun and forms then solid matter as we know it and can see around us, so spiritual people are perhaps right also since some of them believe everything is one, all matter would become this life again if warm enough but it keeps vibrating on a certain warmth as long as it gets energy from the sun or this life, if you leave matter all alone and not adding energy to it it would just become hard rock as everything else but it keeps being alive from the warmth of the suns, that`s exactly what I think perhaps, that everything started with life and it slowly learned how to build something of a planet to walk around in, of course all life is different from each other but perhaps the source is all the same or the life, the big bang theory is sort of wrong also then, it didn`t start with an explosion, the explosion was just a way to spread life, what do you guys think about it?
     
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  2. jacks

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    I agree and that "will" was God.
     
  3. Principium

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    So we`re all god then perhaps or what do you think of it really?
     
  4. Brightmoon

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    the Big Bang was an expansion of spacetime . It wasn’t an explosion. That expansion gave off a lot of energy. When it cooled a little , subatomic particles like quarks started to” solidify”. These initial quarks began to form more familiar subatomic particles like electrons protons and neutrons. Further cooling got hydrogen and some helium and a little lithium . These gases coalesced to form stars . Nuclear fusion in these stars formed the elements up to iron. When these stars went nova they scattered these elements into space and formed some of the heavier elements by doing so. Secondary stars like our sun have all 92 natural elements in the gases that make it up. Once the elements started forming and being spewed into space then you could get planets to form from the dust. Our solar system is about 5 billion years old . The earth is a little younger because the early earth was made up of two protoplanets that smashed together ( the debris from this eventually formed the moon ) ... then and only then life started after the earth stopped being bombarded by meteors floating around in the early solar system.

    The Big Bang doesn’t have much to do directly with how life started
     
  5. jacks

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    I wouldn't say we are all God, but God does dwell within each of us.

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    Do you not know that you are a temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?
     
  6. Principium

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    Ah, interesting, people weren`t that dumb in the old days really :)
     
  7. Monk Brendan

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    It doesn't disprove God at all.

    Smarter people than you have tried and failed miserably.
     
  8. Principium

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    Perhaps you`re right, I was just thinking so
     
  9. Brightmoon

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    I wouldn’t say that . Scientists have tried for centuries to either credit Bible stories and that has failed miserably. Or to demonstrate that God exists. That has failed miserably too . It’s one reason that they no longer call science, Natural theology. And that modern scientists don’t bother with theological explanations. Natural phenomena has to explain itself . Just a caveat science doesn’t try to discredit the Bible . That is not a Scientists job . Our job is how to figure out how nature works. Scientists basically say let the chips fall where they may and it it does demonstrate that the bible or other holy book is erroneous then too bad.
     
  10. carlv_52

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    Arguably it is hard to "disprove" the existence of something, anything, logically speaking. In the matter of God the meatier topic is providing evidence for His existence, I should think.
     
  11. Yennora

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    Does that sound similar/familiar with Einstein's views on God?

    I think I might agree with you. In the sense that God didn't suddenly show up with his magic wand and started drawing. I think God is found in the internity of the process, that God is that invisible driver. But then, he is also the source of good. God is found in the hearts of the good mostly in my honest opinion. Did you notice that when you look into someone's eyes sometimes you can see a transcendence of their moral values and amount of goodness that flows from their souls? Some people call it "positive and negative energy".

    I think I like the idea that God is distributed rather than only being a central being. I thought of this back in 2016-2017 when I was battling with Atheism and major doubts and it still have relevance to me.
     
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    More deeply yet is the question: "is God a necessary factor needed to explain the variability in the data?"

    As you correctly state, it isn't science's job to "disprove" God, but rather to make the most parsimonious "model" to describe the data. So far none of the models have required God as a factor to explain most of the model (retaining some natural error).

    That doesn't "disprove" God, but certainly explains why many theologians dislike the "God of the Gaps" theology.
     
  13. Brightmoon

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    That’s why I don’t like Intelligent Design . I don’t think that human ignorance should define God
     
  14. Principium

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    Perhaps it disproves what I just said, it would take alot of work to create everything yourself really, to design it
     
  15. Brightmoon

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    . ID basically saying that we don’t know how everything works so we’ll blame God instead of trying to figure it out. This is why scientists hated it. It’s just a lazy way of thinking and it explains nothing
     
  16. Principium

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    mhm true
     
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    Strike one, try again
     
  18. Tone

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    How does this disprove God?
     
  19. Monk Brendan

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    I've said this before, and I guess I'll have to say it again.

    God refuses to be quantified in the lab.
     
  20. Tone

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    If anything...that disproves evolution, which believes everything started with death...
     
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