Joseph G said:

Well said. Just one important distinction to add, in pertaining to whatever enters a man, from Mark 7...

Mark 7:18-19 NKJV

"So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?”

God bless!

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Thank you for this we did extend Mark 7:20-23 to include Mark 7:18,19. Thank you for your reply

Pop D. said:

Heavenly Father, we pray You will be with Oompa Loompa, help him overcome alcohol and fill him with Your Holy Spirit instead. May Your Will be done, in the Name of Jesus. Amen and Amen.

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I agree God is the back bone for escaping alcoholism and I hope this man is one of the few that escape it.

The fruit are good works for the glory of God and HIS kingdom. When we are regenerated by the Holy Spirit we are given the fruit of the Spirit, which is love, joy, peace, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faith, patience and self-control. As we live out our faith, the fruit with which we've been supernaturally endowed will manifest in deed and in speech and in truth. That manifestation may come via one of the gifts each of have been given by virtue of our regeneration and by God's sovereign omniscience of our personal level of ability. See Romans 12:6; 1 Corinthians 12:7-10, 28; 1 Corinthians 13 andc14; and, Ephesians 4:11.

May God bless you and keep you and shine HIS face upon you. In the mighty holy holy holy and precious name of Jesus Christ. Amen amen.

kingrandrei said:

Hello everyone,
My name is Andrei. I am a soldier in the American army who is on deployment. I have dedicated my time to help people who need a listening ear and want someone who can share in their problems. I can pray for anyone who needs it and this also what I provided to my fellow soldiers at the base. Thanks for having me here.

Andrei.

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Sorry for the lateness of my response. Welcome to Christian forums and I hope to see you around the forums more...

Are you a messianic Jew? (Jew by birth?) Just curious...

Thank you for your service!

essentialsaltes said:

One of the interesting wrinkles is the the IOC twisted USOPC's arm into signing a document respecting the IOC's anti-doping process, (in the context of a US independent investigation into Chinese doping at the Tokyo Games.)

Olympic officials try to crush U.S. probes of China doping, threaten Salt Lake Games​

In a series of fierce statements coordinated by IOC President Thomas Bach, top IOC committee members blasted U.S. officials for opening probes into handling of the China case by the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA).

Ingmar De Vos, an IOC committee member from Belgium said a probe by the U.S. Congress and a criminal investigation launched by the U.S. Department of Justice"are extremely worrying and basically, for us, unacceptable."

Speaking in Paris just ahead of the vote, the chair of the USOPC, Gene Sykes, said he agreed to the binding language.

The case of 23 Chinese swimmers​

The China scandal involves 23 swimmers who tested positive for banned performance enhancing substances on at least two occasions prior to the Tokyo Summer Games in 2021.

WADA officials have acknowledged keeping the test results secret until they were revealed by journalists this spring.

Eleven of those athletes are expected to compete again in Paris.

On Wednesday, members of the IOC said they agreed with WADA's decision to accept a claim by Chinese officials that the positive tests were the result of accidental contamination.

USADA's Tygart, whose organization monitors and penalizes American athletes if they cheat, testified before a House panel in June that WADA had failed for years to properly punish Chinese and also Russian sports teams that regularly use performance-enhancing drugs.

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I wanted to post this, except I was lazy and hoped someone else would do it.

Overall, I like the Olympic® competition. But the organization is hugely corrupt and works as a sportwashing agent for authoritarians. Consequently I dont get that "Olympics® feeling" youre supposed to have.

It sounds like Alan Coren's send-up of a retired James Bond 007, even if the cardinals are all under 80.

"Doctor No will see you now".

'... At the next traffic light, Bond got out, and walked back.
"I don't sell off the float, grandpa," said the milkman.
"Why have you been following me?" asked Bond levelly.
"I got no option, have I?" said the milkman. "First off, we're the only two vehicles doing fifteen miles a wossname, second off, every time I bleeding pull out to overtake, you start wandering all over the road."
"Evasive action," snapped 007. "Don't tell me you weren't trying to force me into the ditch. You're with SMERSH, right?"
The milman took his cap off.
"It says Unigate on here," he said.
"Ha!" cried Bond, and sprang into a Nakusai karate crouch, his left hand a club, his right fingers a dagger.
The milkman got out and helped him up.
"It's this knee I've got," said Bond.
"Shouldn't be out, old geezer like yoiu," said the milkman, "It's freezing."

And so on.

Throughout Church history, Christians have frequently been happy to expel each other from the Church. That is no less true today, but what is the proper attitude of the Christian when it comes to schism?

With the excommunication of Archbishop Viganò, the rumors of further crackdowns against the Traditional Mass, the renewed accusations against Traditionalists of being “schismatically-minded,” and, further afield, the rift between Constantinople and Moscow, the word “schism” seems to be extremely popular today. Folk who have no authority to do so happily excommunicate each other—and some take delight in such treatment, as a sort of badge of honor (depending upon who has supposedly expelled them from the Church). There is—and we shall see, has always been—a certain sick joy on either side of schism.

One of the first grounds for schism can be seen as early as A.D. 200, when the antipope Novatian intruded himself into the Roman See because the immediate successor of Pope Fabian, Cornelius I, allowed the lapsi—those who had succumbed to pagan blandishments—to return to the Communion of the Church with minimal penances. The first antipope, Novatian did raise some really important questions; and, for a time, no less than St. Cyprian of Carthage took a similar view. From that day to this, one cause of schism has been a perception that the Church hierarchy—including the pope—are simply not strict enough with regard to erring Catholics; and history would repeat itself with the Donatists and the Luciferians.

This tendency generally arises after a period of persecution of the Church. When things settle down a bit, some of those who have suffered the most for the Church deeply resent those who did not, or even temporarily left. There is a huge temptation to think about one’s own sacrifices in difficult times and become resentful that some should “skate.” It is, in a sense, a bit like the parable of the laborers in the vineyard.

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The Barbarian said:

It's tough, because it feel so good to be holier than thou.

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Thats the attitude I'm going to heaven and you are not.

The Barbarian said:

And it's not just the Bible-thumpers who do it.

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This reminded me of something else. Many Christians like to post scripture to nonbelievers in these forums. Paul says that the words in the bible don't mean anything to a nonbeliever because they don't have the Holy Spirit, Yet we still do and if I put myself in their shoes it would be aggravating especially if I thought God was a fairy tale.

Jesus began his Sermon on the Mount in Mt 5 and ended it in (ESV) 7:

28 And when Jesus finished these sayings, the crowds were astonished at his teaching,

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teaching,
διδαχῇ (didachē)
Noun - Dative Feminine Singular Strong's 1322
Strong's Greek: 1322. διδαχή (didaché) — 30 Occurrences

NASB Translation:
instruction (2), teaching (27), teachings (1).

29 for he was teaching them as one who had authority, and not as their scribes.

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was teaching
διδάσκων (didaskōn)
Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Singular
Strong's 1321

NKJV:

28 And so it was, when Jesus had ended these sayings, that the people were astonished at His teaching, 29 for He taught them as one having authority, and not as the scribes.

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The same lexeme G1322 appeared in (NKJV) Heb 6:

1 Therefore, leaving the discussion of the elementary principles of Christ, let us go on to perfection, not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works and of faith toward God, 2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

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On this occasion, NKJV decided to translate G1322 as "doctrine".

BDAG:
① the activity of teaching, teaching, instruction ② the content of teaching

I think NKJV overstated G1322 in Heb 6:2. Berean Literal Bible:

instruction about baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of the resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

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about baptisms,
βαπτισμῶν (baptismōn)
Noun - Genitive Masculine Plural
Strong's 909: Dipping, washing (of a ceremonial character). From baptizo; ablution.
Strong's Greek: 909. βαπτισμός (baptismos) — 5 Occurrences

G909 appeared only 5 times in the NT.

Mark 7:

4 and when they come from the marketplace, they do not eat unless they wash.

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they wash.
βαπτίσωνται (baptisōntai)
Verb - Aorist Subjunctive Middle - 3rd Person Plural Strong's 907

And there are many other traditions that they observe, such as the washing of cups and pots and copper vessels and dining couches.)

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the washing
βαπτισμοὺς (baptismous)
Noun - Accusative Masculine Plural
Strong's 909

Now back to NKJV, Heb 6:

2 of the doctrine of baptisms, of laying on of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.

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and of instruction about washings, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment.

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What was the doctrine of baptisms in Heb 6:2?

According to ESV, it was the instruction about washings.

On July 25, 1968, St. Paul VI published Humanae Vitae, an encyclical on the regulation of birth and the dangers involved in the use of artificial contraceptive methods and their imposition as state policy. At the time the encyclical was rejected by many even within the Catholic Church.

The document, published at the beginning of the sexual revolution, continues to draw mixed reactions, which is why it's necessary to take a closer look at five key points that allow us to better understand the encyclical, the context in which it was written, its prophetic message, and its validity even today.

1. It is ordinary, definitive, and irreformable magisterial teaching.​

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And the people that believed the first lie will also believe the second lie.

mark46 said:

pass the popcorn for the debate.

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Hopefully, it'll be better than the presidential debate.

JesusIsMySaviourALways said:

Has anyone ever been pulled towards paganism and back to God and Jesus? What's your experiences? I can't be the only one

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Adding to my last comment....though I did get involved in TM, I still loved Jesus Christ of Nazareth however, one can not serve two masters so I abandoned the practice and gave all to Him.
Be blessed.

Presbyterian Continuist said:

Perhaps in the presence of other believers and being encouraged and inspired by them, your emotions rise as you enjoy the experience. When the meeting is over and you go back to your own home and returned to the everyday issues that we all face, emotions can go back down and you don't feel as joyful or inspired as before. If your heightened emotions in a gathering are your indication of the intensity of God's presence, then you are putting more store on emotional feelings than the promise of God's Word that Jesus lives in your heart by faith no matter whether your emotions are high or low. God's actual presence, by faith, is constant, while your perception of his presence can vary.

I am sure that Gideon received a spirit of dysentery when he was told, "God is with you, mighty man of valour". He didn't feel like God was with him, but he obeyed God's instructions nevertheless and won a mighty victory.

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No, is not like that, it has happened again and again, and i can discern His presence. It can accompany us all the time, His presence is not a feeling. It can be felt, but is God. Even a small gathering, with a bad building no AC bad seats, 'uneducated' people etc, if you can find God in there is a treasure worth a lot.

At the Christian school I teach at. A good friend and co teacher quit after this last school year. Now she is trying to teach at another Christian school. I have an idea, but I want to see what people think.

First of all, I decided to start filming talks I have with some of my Christian friends, just asking them about their thoughts on certain topics. It’s something I just want to start posting on my YouTube page. So I decided to film my talk I had with her one time regarding the homosexual agenda. I have it on my YouTube. I want to show it here below. I just have the impression she should show this to her future interviewer at the next Christian school she plans to be in. I’m thinking this might show a lot of her Christian character and also her skills. But I want to see what everyone thinks first. Watch our video below and see if it’s a good idea to show any Christian employer. Do you think this reveals any skills or talents?

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It's basically a primitive Greek planetarium/calendar based on geocentrism, but still a clever device.

I've heard the best guess is the device was built by Archimedes.

Most people aren't aware the ancient Greeks had automata and machines, such as coin-operated vending machines for holy water, temple doors that opened automatically, and even mechanical birds. However, since they depended so much on slave labor, there was no economic basis for developing machines beyond scientific curiosities, toys, or religious special effects.

One of the reasons that the machine became a metaphor for humanity following the Enlightenment may have been the fact Europeans always had an advantage in making machinery. In fact, automata were about the only trade good that the Chinese would buy from the Europeans.

Your desire is my desire.
You have set my heart on fire.
Your love leads me, follow You,
Faithful be, my witness true.

Give all of I have to You,
Loyalty to You is due.
Walk with You throughout the day
As I bow my heart and pray.

Need Your grace to give me power
To walk with You in this hour.
Troubles wait me round the corner
From those who defy Your borders.

Witness truly, truth to tell
To those who head straight to hell.
Teach them to repent, obey,
Follow Jesus every day.

Bless those who will persecute.
Love them truly. Do not shoot!
Pray for them, to them be kind,
So that God’s grace they will find.

Do not shrink back, persevere.
Let the truth of Christ be heard.
Speak the truth, it’s needed much.
Don’t get caught in “such and such”.

Many teaching lies to people
So that they will be their sheeple.
Teaching them to not repent,
From their sins to not relent.

Spiritual warfare now aflame,
People now remaining same,
Need revival, change of hearts,
Who from Jesus not depart.

An Original Work / July 17, 2022

When we are loving others with this love which prefers what God prefers, then we are going to treat others in like manner as God treats us. And he is patient with us, but his patience does not mean tolerance of deliberate and habitual sin. His patience does not mean that he says nothing or that he doesn’t discipline us, or that he doesn’t teach the church to exercise biblical discipline of its members who are refusing to repent of deliberate and habitual sin. Patience just means slow to anger, not quick-tempered. But it also means that we don’t give up on people, and we keep praying for them.

And kindness never involves lying to people, not even telling what some people refer to as “white lies.” But it doesn’t mean that we just blast out everything we think and feel in meanness and thoughtlessness and cruelty towards others. For speaking the truth must also be coupled with love. But sometimes, depending on the circumstances, we may have to use stronger terms, like Jesus did with the Pharisees, because of the stubbornness and rebellion of those who are deliberately and habitually sinning against God and other humans while professing Christ as Savior. And that is kindness.

When we love others with the love of Christ, we are not to be envious of others who have what we do not have. Some people out of jealousy and envy turn to being spiteful, resentful, bitter, unforgiving, and even might murder another person out of jealously, like Cain killed his brother Abel. And we are not to be boastful and prideful, thinking we are better than everyone else. For we all are born into this world with sin natures, in the image of Adam, and it is only to the glory of God that any of us live righteously.

And we are not to insist on our own way, unless it is truly God’s way, and it is the way of truth and righteousness and moral purity and honesty and uprightness, etc. We need to be those who stand on truth and who refute the lies of the enemy, even if we are accused of wanting to have it our way. But we need to be willing to compromise, where necessary, on non-essentials, i.e. on things that don’t really matter for eternity. We should be those who submit to one another in areas that are not against God.

And, although I may have already covered this somewhat in the paragraphs above, we are never to be those who rejoice in wrongdoing. And this includes we should not be those who give our loyalty, devotion, and commitment and support to those who are doing evil to others, either, whether in real life, or in the viewing of movies and videos which glorify doing evil to others and immorality and adultery and lying and stealing, etc. For we are not to rejoice in evil, but in good, as God defines good.

And we are to rejoice in the truth, not shun it, not ignore it because it makes us uncomfortable. The truth shouldn’t be spoken of as evil while evil is being spoken of as good, but that is where things are now in the world and in the worldly church, too. They don’t like the gospel Jesus taught and that the NT apostles taught, and so they alter and dilute it and teach some truth along with lies which are mainly the twisting of truth but with non-truths added into the mix. For they prefer the lies to the truth, because the lies allow them to keep living in deliberate sin and still claim heaven as their home.

Now when this says that love bears all things and believes all things and hopes all things and endures all things, this is not teaching tolerance of sinful practices and believing everything people say to us. For we are not to tolerate sinful practices, but we are to confront them, and call for repentance. And we are to test everything people say to us against the Scriptures to make certain that they are telling the truth. And we need to believe the truth and not the lies. And we are not to put our hope in things or in people not of God, but we are to believe God and put our hope in HIM.

You Loved Me

An Original Work / December 3, 2019
A song based off the poem by the same name @ Original Works
Music and lyrics by Sue Love @ Original Works & Tosin Iyawo Ogaga
Vocals by Tosin Iyawo Ogaga & Sue Love

When I was lonely and afflicted,
You were there to pick me up.
You took me in Your arms,
And You held me tenderly.

Your love embraced me.
Your grace sustained me.

When my heart cried out to You
In my fear and my despair,
You never turned away,
But You let me know You loved me.

Your grace forgave me.
You did not shame me.

Then, when I answered the call,
“Here, Lord, send me.”
You sent me to where I must be.
Your mercy held me, did not fail me.
All this, You had planned, to use me.

And, when all trials and scorn
Came to test me.
You gave me all that I would need.
You strengthened me so I’d not fail You.
Your kindness blessed me, it touched me.

And, when I needed the church
To lift up me,
To hearten me so I’d not fail,
You blessed me with folks who would love me.
Their presence with me, Your praise hailed!

And, when I walked through the valley
Of the shadow of the death,
And tears flowed from my eyes,
Still Your kindness was there for me.

Your touch, it healed me.
For I believed You.

When now I think about the ways,
Of the many, many ways
That You in Your great love
Show me that You’ll always care for me,

My heart, it thanks You,
And gladness fills me, fills me.

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AlexB23 said:

Yes. Sounds like End Times stuff...

Check out my pretty chill rant about this stuff here:

Lust Month is finally over

Hello folks. Today is a great day, cos Lust Month is finally over, or it will be in around 4 hours. https://www.christianforums.com/threads/putting-pride-to-death-matthew-6-2-2-corinthians-11-30-proverbs-11-2.8300243/

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RileyG said:

Some people still use "preferred pronouns" even if they are their biological sex.

I don't know why.

they want to be "inclusive"

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I didn’t know that until this thread.

February 19, 2012

We were battling sickness in our house for over a week. It appeared we kept recycling the same germs to one another. And, then I walked into our bedroom one day and turned on a light when my husband was sleeping. I didn’t think about it. The light was like a sharp stab to his eyes, though. And, then I felt really bad about it to the point of tears.

The head cold I had was really getting me down, too. So, all this was going on when I sat down to hear from the Lord, to see if he had words to go with the tune I believe he had given me to write.

So, when he began with the words, “You are loving and forgiving, Jesus, Savior,” I felt such comfort and reassurance from him at that time. Then, he led me to read Psalms 86, and to translate the psalm into New Testament terminology. So, this song is based off that Psalm, with Jesus Christ as the one to whom we are offering our prayer of praise, adoration, thanksgiving and supplication.

You are Loving and Forgiving

An Original Work / February 19, 2012
Based off Psalm 86

You are loving and forgiving,
Jesus, Savior, King of kings.
You provided our redemption.
By Your blood You set us free.
You are gracious; full of mercy.
No deeds can compare with Yours.
Great are You; there is none like You.
Glory be to Your name.

Teach me Your way, and I’ll walk in it.
O Lord, I will walk in Your truth.
May I not have a heart divided,
That Your name I give honor to.
I will praise You, O Lord, my Savior,
For great is Your love toward me.
You have delivered me from my sins.
Your grace has pardoned me.

You, O Lord, are full of compassion,
Slow to anger, bounteous in love;
Faithful to fulfill all You promise;
Glory be to Your name above.
Hear, O Lord, and answer Your servant.
You are my God. I trust in You.
Turn to me and grant Your strength to me.
You are my comforter.

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Unfortunately, my room is very cluttered and my icons are everywhere. If I ever have energy, I need to organize.

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That is alright. We all can become disorganized. Anyways, I hope you have a blessed night, bro. It is getting late here.

Easy fixed...

‘From the River to the Sea, without HAMAS will be free’​

Now, if we want to understand this passage of Scripture in its correct context, it is very helpful if we can look at the Greek word for love, which is agape, and see what this love is all about. For this is not human love which is based in our emotions or that is based in the one we are loving, but this is love which comes from God and which prefers what God prefers, which is all that is holy, righteous, godly, upright, morally pure, honest, faithful, and obedient to our Lord and to his commandments under the New Covenant.

For this love engages doing for others what God prefers that we do whether or not our emotions feel the love. For we can even love those who hate us and who mistreat us and who do evil against us. We can do for them and to them what is loving and kind and godly even if our emotions are hurting from how they treated us. For this love centers in moral preference and it comes from God and so it will love like God loves us. For even when we were the Lord’s enemies, Jesus Christ died for us on that cross.

Now there are people who are misinterpreting this passage of Scripture because they are interpreting “love” with human understanding and not with biblical understanding. So they might end up condemning those who are living righteously and who are loving biblically because they are thinking humanly and not biblically. For they want the kind of love that just makes other people feel good about themselves, even if it requires lying to them and withholding the truth from them in order to make them feel good.

But in reality, a lot of that kind of “love” is selfish, and so it only says to others what makes them feel good because they want others to like them and to not turn against them. So they are not really loving like God loves, thinking about what is truly best for us, for what we need, but it is a very fleshly “love” that is often more about pleasing self than acting in true biblical love towards others. And so some of these people will condemn those who are loving biblically if that requires speaking the truth in love.

So, we need to understand this love from a biblical and godly perspective and realize that this isn’t all just about making other people feel good. Now are we to be encouragers? Absolutely! Are we to be those who make it a point to thank others and to acknowledge them and their accomplishments and who do acts of kindness towards others? Absolutely! But we are not to neglect agape love which considers other people’s true needs and which reaches out to meet those needs, even if it engages confronting sin.

So this agape love is not all about making everyone feel good about themselves all the time. There has to be a balance. For when God loves us, sometimes he encourages us in ways that bring us joy and happiness and that feel good to our emotions. And other times he encourages us more in a way of exhortation or urging where he may even have to correct us and warn us and convict us of wrongdoing in order to get us to turn about, to turn away from what is evil, and to follow the ways of righteousness.

So, my point here is that if someone is truly exercising spiritual gifts of the Spirit of God in biblical ways, then this is going to involve the kind of love which feels good to our emotions but also the kind of love that may not feel good, at the moment, but what is needed, and what is necessary, and what is truly loving and kind. For it is thinking about what the other person truly needs and not just about how it is going to make them feel at the moment. And this involves laying our lives down for others for their ultimate good.

But there is a balance to be required here. We can be overly harsh, and that is not good, and we can be overly soft, and that is not good. Jesus is a wonderful example for us in how he dealt with other people and in the words that he spoke to them and in the things that he did for them. He had the right balance, but then he is God. But he was still man, too, when he walked this earth. So just because someone is called of God to speak the truth of the Scriptures, in love, that is not to be taken as being unloving or unkind.

For, again, agape love prefers what God prefers which is all that is honest, faithful, upright, and morally pure, etc. And so agape love is not going to compromise the truth of the gospel and the teachings of the Scriptures in order to make people feel good. For we can encourage other humans in ways that do not compromise truth and righteousness and godliness and still be loving and kind. Again, balance! But balance is not compromise when it comes to biblical truth and righteousness and obedience to our Lord.

Yet it is true that if we have spiritual gifts, but we do not exercise them in agape love, then we have gained nothing. And this doesn’t require that everyone else see that what we are doing is “love,” but that we are truly doing for others what is in preference to what God prefers, which is all that is righteous, godly, morally pure, and honest, etc. and which does not compromise truth and righteousness just to make people feel good so that they will like us and not think evil of us. Again, Jesus is our example.

[Romans 12:1-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-5; Galatians 6:1; Ephesians 2:8-10; Ephesians 4:1-16; Ephesians 5:15-21; Ephesians 6:10-20; Philippians 2:1-8; Colossians 3:12-16; Titus 2:11-14; Hebrews 3:13; Hebrews 10:23-25; James 5:19-20]

To Be Like Him

An Original Work / March 16, 2014
Based off Scripture

Crucified you are with Jesus.
To be like Him, oh, you’ll be,
Because He died at Calv’ry,
So from sin you’d be free.
Oh, what joy He brings into your life,
Giving life with Him endlessly.

Oh, what plans He has for your life.
Share the gospel faithfully.
Show the people He loves them.
Now His witness you’ll be.
Tell the world of sin about Jesus,
How He died for them on a tree.

Purifying hearts, He saves them,
Who believe on Christ, God’s Son.
Turning now from their idols,
New lives they have begun.
Jesus saves from sin; we’re forgiven.
Over sin, the vict’ry He won!

When He comes again to take us
To be with Him evermore,
There will be no more crying.
Gladness will be in store.
Heavens joys will now overtake us:
We’ll be with our Lord evermore.

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