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Starting to get into Precision .22 shooting... (UPDATED).

I just realized that I have not posted the latest iteration of my 455. I just can't get enough shooting to keep me happy!! Here is my best group so far; center to center 0.930"; sub MOA at 100 yards with a .22; who would have thought!!!

BTW, one change not shown in this photo is the scope rings. I just changed it up from the Weaver short steel in the photo to Weaver mediums. I was finding it a bit difficult to get my face low enough for the scope. The change is working well, in that I have a better neck angle, and my eye is dead center in the scope's field of view.

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Normandt' meditations

215. The mission that saves





“If you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.

For one believes with the heart and so is justified, and one confesses with the mouth and so is saved.



For the scripture says, ‘No one who believes in him will be put to shame.’ For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; the same Lord is Lord of all, enriching all who call upon him. For ‘everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.’

But how can they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach?



And how can people preach unless they are sent? As it is written, ‘How beautiful are the feet of those who bring (the) good news!’

But not everyone has heeded the good news; for Isaiah says, ‘Lord, who has believed what was heard from us?’



Thus faith comes from what is heard, and what is heard comes through the word of Christ.

But I ask, did they not hear? Certainly they did; for ‘Their voice has gone forth to all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world.’” Romans, chapter 10, verses 9 to 18



Let’s stop and meditate these questions: “How can they call on him in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach?”

Christ invites us to the mission that saves.



The new American Bible, 2011-2014

Book: Let’s evangelize, Normand Thomas
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Mass Shooting at Annunciation Catholic Church/School in Minneapolis

Yeah, like ladders. Dangerous things ladders. Is your argument that we should license them and train people and make them take a test like they do with cars? Do you have any comprehension of how fatuous an argument it is that you are attempting to use?

'Other things are dangerous and there's no regulations (knitting needles, windows, hammers, showers...the list is endless) so why call for regulations on guns?'

Ah, but it's a political argument that 'the left' is using. It's 'the right' that likes lots of guns and 'the left' want to spoil your fun. I guess the countless dead children don't have anything to do with it. The last 8 year old with a hole blown in his face is of no concern. The countless parents weeping for a lost child has no bearing whatsoever. The traumatised survivors who have seen their friends gunned down matter not at all. People wanting an end to this national tragedy, well they're just some people wanting to make a political point.
Take care of the root cause not the left’s political darling.
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Trump Threatens Federal Takeover of Washington After Member of DOGE Is Assaulted

Nothing has been proven other than putting more bodies on the street will naturally deter criminal activity for a while. It's not a solution to fighting urban crime.

And it certainly does not justify diverting Federal resources from the rest of the country and deploying the National Guard.

It's all a performance.
The DC mayor disagrees with you.
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How Is One’s Name Written in the Book of Life?

The seven churches were Jewish believers. The names of Gentiles are not written in the book of life. Neither are their names written on the New Jerusalem.
How do you know that the 7 Asian churches consisted entirely of Jewish believers?

As I said in my previous post, the verse doesn't say that anybody's name was written on the New Jerusalem. The verse says:

““He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And [I will write on him] My new name.” (Re 3:12 NKJV)

So the name of the New Jerusalem was to be written on "He who overcomes." It doesn't say that the name of him who overcomes is written on the New Jerusalem.
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How Is One’s Name Written in the Book of Life?

When you show from the Old Testament that the capitol of TX is Austin.
Thanks for admitting that you cannot show from the Old Testament that the names of Gentiles are written in the book of life. The book of life wasn't about salvation. it was Israel's census book.
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Don’t Go Chasing Happiness

Salvation by grace through faith and our responsibility?

So you have to redefine scriptures that DO say you are dead in your sins and have to be made alive by Christ in order to get to your preferred theology? Why don't you just embrace a theology that actually reflects what scriptures say?
No. Calvinists redefined the scriptures. "Dead" as a metaphor in scripture is not a spiritual condition, it is a legal standing. Nowhere does Paul say "spiritually dead." Paul never used the words "spiritually" and "dead together." Spiritual death is an idea that Calvinists imported into the Bible

dead = condemnation
alive = eternal life

"24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death [condemnation] unto life.

Paul was saying that we were under condemnation [dead] because of our sins and that we had received eternal life through faith. Show me where the words "spiritually" and "dead" are used together in the scriptures.
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Air Force to provide funeral honors to Ashli Babbitt

She didn't breach anything. She was gunned down outside the doors.
We can see the video of what happened. She was shot as she was climbing through the breach in the door.

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At around 0:45, she is seen in the back, LITERALLY climbing through the door and then shot. So don't lie, she wasn't outside the doors, she was literally going through them as she was shot.
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

Sigh.

The interesting thing about tool marks is that they tell us something about the tool. Whipsaws leave vertical and almost vertical marks. Circular saws leave arcs. Clean breaks, as in scoring, can leave torn edges in wood and clean division in material like glass and some stones. Grinding leaves distinctive marks as well.

This is how we know it's known that the Egyptians cut stone. Straight line cuts? Not exactly easy-peasy, but to get a nice straight line all you need is a cord and some pigment. Even smut will do. Coat the cord with it, stretch it across the surface, and snap the line. Leaves a nice, straight, mark for a guide. Run down to your favorite hardware store and pick up a chalk line, and you can do the same thing. Once you have a straight line, then it's grind away. The Egyptians had plenty of grit in the form of sand, and that will do the trick. Metal tools are better, but if you're willing to waste precious cord, coating it with grit and repeating as the cord quickly wears through will also make a groove.

It's not as though we don't have what's left of their tools, so we know what they used. If they were using diamond coating abrasive disks rotating at high speeds, where are the remains of the machines? Where are remains of machine parts? Where are the remains of the tools required to build such machines? Where are the remains of what powered them? Copper saws they left behind; diamond coated disks not so much.

It's ironic. We started out with acknowledging that humans of bygone eras were more clever than we might thing, only to wind up with the argument that the Egyptians who built the pyramids just weren't up to the task.
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Oklahoma state rep Ty Burns pleads guilty to domestic abuse and assault after trying to 'gouge' wife's eye out

Now you're saying him being the member of a political party does matter, which is contrary to what you said before.
Quote me on that. You're the one who said that his political party (not that he was a politician) was more important than that he was an abuser. That's what you wrote.
I asked if that was what you meant, you didn't deny it.
My claim is that it's newsworthy because he is a politician (party affiliation doesn't matter) and that's why it made it to the news.
There's a bit of a disconnect between what you claim was said and what was actually written.
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How Is One’s Name Written in the Book of Life?

I imagine the verse you have in mind is:

““He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And [I will write on him] My new name.” (Re 3:12 NKJV)

If so, that doesn't say that anybody's name is written on the new Jerusalem, but that God's name, and "the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem" will be written on him who overcomes.
The seven churches were Jewish believers. The names of Gentiles are not written in the book of life. Neither are their names written on the New Jerusalem.
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

Certainly in the earlier part of the chapter he mentioned the Jewish leaders who arranged Christ's crucifixion, but when he later talks of the natural; man, the context shows that he is not thinking only of those Jewish leaders:

“12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God. 13 These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know [them], because they are spiritually discerned.” (1Co 2:12-14 NKJV)

Surely "the spirit of the world" was not only evident in the actions of the Jewish leaders, but in all who do not know the Saviour.
Verse 8 clearly tells us who didn't that didn't understand. It was the Jewish rulers who crucified Christ. Therefore, the contrast is not between the saved and the unsaved, but the Jewish rulers who couldn't understand the things of the Spirit of God and the apostles to whom the things of the Spirit was revealed.

12 Now we [the apostles] have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we [the apostles] might know the things that have been freely given to us [the apostles] by God.
13 These things we [the apostles] also speak, not in words which man’s [the Jewish rulers] wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man [the Jewish ruler] does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him [the Jewish ruler]; nor can he [the Jewish ruler] know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1Co 2:12-14 NKJV)

There is no support for the Calvinist inability doctrine in this passage. In fact, Paul said that the veil is lifted from one's eyes "when one turns to the Lord" and not the other way around (2 Corinthians 3:16).
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You almost have to wonder if the Democratic Party is secretly trying to lose.

When it comes to a convicted felon being president, there's two conclusions. Too many voters concluded it was a bogus conviction. Having a convicted felon as president was preferable to having a democrat as president.
Personally, I can't begin to understand why anyone would vote for Donald Trump, even disregarding the fact that he's a convicted felon. But, you are, of course, free to believe whatever you wish. You have every right to your opinion, regardless of whether or not it has any basis in reality.

-- A2SG, I'd certainly never say you can't....
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No person can come to Christ by their own freewill !

No it doesnt matter in salvation, all the same, dead in sin Rom 3:9,19-20
Yes, it does matter. Jesus said that the Jews of his generation will be under a greater judgment. He said that the Ninevites will stand in judgment against them.
9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin
This doesn't prove that Jews and Gentiles share guilt in the same measure. Jesus called only his own generation of Jews "a wicked and adulterous generation" because they wanted signs. Gentiles believed without signs. They did not carry all the guilt the Jews carried.
19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped,
The Gentiles weren't under the law (Romans 2:14; 1 Corinthians 9:20-22).

and all the world may become guilty before God.
I thought Calvinists deny that "all the world" means everybody? ?????
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