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timothyu · Sep 9, 2025

Grafted In said:
Paul says so. I posted scripture showing it to be so.

To the new Kingdom that comes down out of Heaven.. New. Meaning both a place and a governance.

RocksInMyHead · Sep 9, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Just the United States government who has an army of intelligence analysts and billions of dollars worth of survalence assets and no need or desire to share anything with you. My point is that just because you demand evidence or proof, they are not required, nor are you entitled to receive such evidence.

Generally speaking, someone (outside of members of the Executive branch) is entitled to receive that evidence. At minimum, the members of the Intelligence Committees for accountability purposes. And, I'd argue that the government publicizing the action does entitle the public to know who we just executed. Generally speaking, when the government announces that it has hit some high-ranking terrorist with a drone strike, it also tells the public who it was and specific things that person had done that might justify the strike. I don't see this as significantly different.

However, what I find far more concerning than the government's reticence to release any information is the attitude that some members of the administration (and people here on the forums) have taken when asked about it.

Grafted In · Sep 9, 2025

We, Jew and gentile, who have been born again, are espoused to Jesus.
When He comes for us He will take us to His Father’s house and we will become the Bride of Christ.
Paul says so. I posted scripture showing it to be so.

Oompa Loompa · Sep 9, 2025

rambot said:
And so you look upon it with derision?

Why? Those executive are killing INNOCENT Americans.

Drug addicts CHOOSE to put that nonsense in their veins. You seem to suggest that the killing of "innocents" is an important factor on taking action.

I mean, you aren't using a known definition for homicide either though when you chose to defend that position.

God forbid you ever have a child who becomes a drug addict and dies from an overdose of the poisons these cartels are pumping into this country. Otherwise, you would have a completely different tone.

Aseyesee · Sep 9, 2025

The Word is quite literally the door ...

Oompa Loompa · Sep 9, 2025

Lukaris said:
accidental double quote

It seems like players in Iran & Venezuela narco connection are a result ( of many) from the old post WW 2 order America was partly sucked into. We let the Shah of Iran fall. France actively supported Khomeini. The US had a role in drugs & illegal immigration etc. All stuff that Trump genuinely opposes with his America 1st outlook which the perpetual Cold War wing preserves as the US decays, illegal immigration prospers, Islamic terrorism thrives etc.

Trump’s overall outlook is actually ok but some of his strategy seems dangerous but so is the status quo that he wants to replace.

I remember the Obama administration sending a bunch of guns to the cartels. I believe it was called "Operation Fast and Furious." Or did that get thrown down the memory hole too.

Grafted In · Sep 9, 2025

Circular narrative.
Jesus Christ came and died on that cross for every single human being that ever lived.
He simply chose the descendants of Abraham to reveal Himself to all.
"for unto them were given the oricals of God.

lifepsyop · Sep 9, 2025

bèlla said:
Who said it isn’t normal? Are you privy to every crime that happens on a daily basis? Do you work in law enforcement or related fields that data or relying on the internet?

i'm saying i can look up hundreds of videos right now of black people targeting random white passerbys but it is rare to find the inverse.

is the data conspiring to portray black people negatively, you think?

bèlla said:
Are you suggesting whites are being victimized by blacks en masse? Doesn’t that juxtapose white privilege? Do you need to be protected?

I'm a large somewhat fit man. I'm not worried so much about myself, thinking more about women and children - ya know, like the woman that was stabbed to death in this case.
not to mention the elderly.

you know, our more vulnerable neighbors that we are supposed to be protecting - instead of sacrificing on the altar of "please don't call me racist" politics

bèlla said:
People see what they want and it goes both ways.

~bella

they also *don't* see what they've been indoctrinated to believe is "racist"

Clare73 · Sep 9, 2025

Strong in Him said:
No, I told you that it was God's plan for Jesus to come, die and redeem us from sin.

If you're saying that God planned for Jesus to choose Judas because he needed somebody to betray him - I don't agree.
To include someone in your group of closest followers, allow them to see miracles, to hear your teaching and things you haven't told anybody else,

1) We don't judge God"s ways, he judges our ways.

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways," declares the Lord.
'As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." (Isa 55:8-9)

Strong in Him said:
use them to do what they you wanted them to do and then condemn them for obeying you, is awful.

Depends on your point of view. . .

To use a sinful enemy (Ro 5:10) of God's will to acomplish God's divine purposes is a demonstration of God's wisdom, power, sovereignty and glory.

RocksInMyHead · Sep 9, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
Source please. Calling it.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, who sided with the conservative majority in Monday's decision, took issue with whether the tactics violate the Constitution. Kavanaugh, nominated by President Trump in 2018, said Los Angeles' large population of undocumented immigrants "tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work," frequently work in construction-related jobs and may not speak English.

"Whether an officer has reasonable suspicion depends on the totality of the circumstances," Kavanaugh wrote. "Here, those circumstances include: that there is an extremely high number and percentage of illegal immigrants in the Los Angeles area; that those individuals tend to gather in certain locations to seek daily work; that those individuals often work in certain kinds of jobs, such as day labor, landscaping, agriculture, and construction, that do not require paperwork and are therefore especially attractive to illegal immigrants; and that many of those illegally in the Los Angeles area come from Mexico or Central America and do not speak much English.

"To be clear, apparent ethnicity alone cannot furnish reasonable suspicion; under this Court’s case law regarding immigration stops, however, it can be a 'relevant factor' when considered along with other salient factors."

Supreme Court lifts restrictions on LA immigration enforcement operation tactics

The Supreme Court lifted a restraining order granted by a judge and cleared the way for federal agents to carry out sweeping immigration enforcement operations in Los Angeles. The high court’s 6-3 decision handed the Trump administration a victory in its mass deportation effort, a campaign...

www.nbclosangeles.com

Oompa Loompa · Sep 9, 2025

RocksInMyHead said:
Where have I said otherwise? I'm not the one making assertions about who or what was on that boat

Just the United States government who has an army of intelligence analysts and billions of dollars worth of survalence assets and no need or desire to share anything with you. My point is that just because you demand evidence or proof, they are not required, nor are you entitled to receive such evidence.

timothyu · Sep 9, 2025

Clare73 said:
Differing denominations do not thereby mean they are not Christian

Anybody can claim to be Christian but few are followers of the Father”s will and Jesus. Christianity is just a name used both by those who do His will or use God to justify themselves.

timothyu · Sep 9, 2025

Grafted In said:
We have been given the freedom to come BOLDLY before the Throne of God by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.

Of course. Choosing His Kingdom, not ours.

Tinker Grey · Sep 9, 2025

Why is no one covering this! It happened only 5 days ago! https://www.centralillinoisproud.com/news/local-news/peoria-man-charged-wife-murder/

The Barbarian · Sep 9, 2025

BassLine said:
Could it be that you'd find it fun to explore sometime?

Been a while. When I learned, one filled out stuff on coding sheets, from which someone would type out Hollerith cards after which they'd put them in this machine that input the code and the computer would then run it. Much later, I bought a Trash-80, learning basic, and then my company finally got into the computer age with a Xerox 820 running CP/M. It was a magnificent thing, a desktop that had one floppy drive and an external drive that ran two 12 inch floppies that were 1 megabyte each. I mostly did the workflow database for the department. Did I mention we were a company owned by Xerox?

Grafted In · Sep 9, 2025

timothyu said:
True enough considering the Jews called the other ten tribes of the house of Israel gentiles.

True enough without them.

Clare73 · Sep 9, 2025

timothyu said:
No institution or human governance which has given us over 10000 denominations of human conjecture since the simple truth and way. The gentile its all about us era.

Differing denominations do not thereby mean they are not Christian.

Strong in Him · Sep 9, 2025

Clare73 said:
You are ignoring God's plan regarding it all. . .

No, I told you that it was God's plan for Jesus to come, die and redeem us from sin.

If you're saying that God planned for Jesus to choose Judas because he needed somebody to betray him - I don't agree.
To include someone in your group of closest followers, allow them to see miracles, to hear your teaching and things you haven't told anybody else, use them to do what they you wanted them to do and then condemn them for obeying you, is awful.

timothyu · Sep 9, 2025

Grafted In said:
Jews and gentiles are called...

True enough considering the Jews called the other ten tribes of the house of Israel gentiles.

lifepsyop · Sep 9, 2025

bèlla said:
When your lens is political you’re already skewed. You threats everywhere. Irrespective of the side. But to each his own

~bella

one's lens can also be skewed by the boomer era politics of "anti-racism" - an almost religious commitment to *not* noticing obvious aspects of reality if it might result in you being labeled "racist"

Grafted In · Sep 9, 2025

timothyu said:
We are lucky to be guests at the feast rather than so arrogant

Hah! We have been given the freedom to come BOLDLY before the Throne of God by the shed blood of Jesus Christ.
Don't hang your head!

rambot · Sep 9, 2025

rjs330 said:
No police don't. They don't have leftist radicals following them around, filming them for the purpose of doxing them so they and their families can be harassed and threatened. If this kind of stuff was happening to police officers you can bet there would be some serious repercussions and we would probably see face covered cops.

Lol...yeah.
Police never get harassed.

You guys just allow Trump the widest legal swath possible...and then take a couple more inches in the name of safety...isn't there a money quote about that from some old timer down there?

That's right! Ol "Benny F"
""Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety". The burn is you aren't even giving up your OWN liberty. You're forcing OTHERS to give it up.

So I guess you guys deserve neither safety nor liberty. At least according to bEn Franklin....but he was an idiot so...

RocksInMyHead · Sep 9, 2025

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
He had already been released for other crimes.

And? I see nothing in his criminal history to suggest that he would be likely to randomly stab someone.

Yeshua HaDerekh said:
He should have been in a mental institution.

Perhaps, but the bar for involuntary commitment is (understandably) pretty high. There's a process that must be followed. While there is an option for emergency commitment, that requires extraordinary circumstances, which Brown did not meet.

timothyu · Sep 9, 2025

Clare73 said:
How does that differ from God's

No institution or human governance which has given us over 10000 denominations of human conjecture since the simple truth and way. The gentile its all about us era.

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