Oompa Loompa said:

As you have said, "the Supreme Court overturned that ruling." So I do not give a flip about whatever a liberal activist district judge thinks.

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Okay? Doesn't change what Kavenaugh (and his ruling) said though.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

No matter how many international visitors come to the US for the 2026 World Cup, the event will be successful and stadiums will be full.

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You say that with confidence. I would expect to see some significant changes in American culture before that would be true.

FAITH-IN-HIM said:

Despite a current decline in foreign tourism in 2025, it is still expected that 3-4 million ( initial estimate is 7 million) overseas visitors will attend FIFA 2026, making it a success.

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Well this article says they expected 40million 7 months ago.
USA unprepared for surge of international travellers for 2026 World Cup: study
I wanna look into typical world cup attendance numbers and see....

The last time I can remember a Republican president inheriting a problem rather than inheriting a boon and leaving a problem was Al Qaeda in 2001. What do we thing the odds are that Trump will respond to this impending recession better than W did to Al Qaeda?

Aseyesee said:

The Word is quite literally the door ...

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i was pondering this today going deep into the singleness of it all ... as you know there is no way i could type\nail down what i saw in the moment ... its funny because in the moment if asked what i saw i could have in words but now i cant ... if that makes sense ...

RDKirk said:

If I were the Navy Chief of Naval Operations, I wouldn't say a doggoned word about the rules of engagement specified by the SECNAV and the President. That's for them to reveal...or not.

That's an absolutely no-win situation unless the SECNAV has given me the words to say.

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Seems that the DNC have specialized it taking the "no-win" situations as if they are actively trying to martyr their party for their cause. Which, in this case, is defending narco-terrorists. Note, I am speaking of the party, not the individuals who elect them.

Vambram said:

The rule of law is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. The safety of law enforcement officers and their families is also EXTREMELY IMPORTANT to me. But, perhaps not to you.

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And so then you can prosecute those people those that dox. Am I to believe no one has ever been charged with violence against a cop or their family before?

The rule of law, in a society that wants to improve, is important.

All of this "I guess because you care about the rule of law, the safety of other people isn't important to you" it seems so juvenile. Go ahead and think that I guess. You can be wrong about me.


Do you seriously think that ICE's job is EASIER now that they are all covered up? FRankly, they are lucky they are not getting shot. If someone came into my house without any identifier threatenning me, I'd feel 100% justified in shooting them. You know how easy it is to just say "This is Ice" and then dress up like them? AND in unmarked cars?

Come on. It's like their SOLE purpose is to try to strike fear.

The Barbarian said:

Been a while. When I learned, one filled out stuff on coding sheets, from which someone would type out Hollerith cards after which they'd put them in this machine that input the code and the computer would then run it.

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Boy, does that bring back memories! It was the 1960s; I was married with one child, working in the research department of a chemical plant, and taking night classes in chemical engineering. I had just signed up for a Numerical Analysis and Computer Programming elective.

The first time I walked into the mainframe anteroom to punch a program card, it was like walking onto another planet. It changed my life. We still have the first card I ever punched. It reads:

ON MY FIRST IBM CARD I WANT TO SAY I LOVE MY WIFE.

[edit: That card still gets smiles after 60 years]

The Barbarian said:

Much later, I bought a Trash-80, learning basic, and then my company finally got into the computer age with a Xerox 820 running CP/M. It was a magnificent thing, a desktop that had one floppy drive and an external drive that ran two 12 inch floppies that were 1 megabyte each. I mostly did the workflow database for the department. Did I mention we were a company owned by Xerox?

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Wow ... small world. For about 4 years in the 1980s, I worked for I.P. Sharp Associates, a Toronto-based consulting and computer service firm. Xerox in Rochester was a client that ran Sharp timesharing software on its mainframe. I visited there frequently.

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Yarddog said:

I would like to think that they did but there are no reports of this, as of yet

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Nor are you entitled to them.

Yarddog said:

I don't trust anyone in this administration. But the videos that have been released show no attempt to follow rules of engagement. Hopefully, the Navy will release something to show they acted properly.

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If I were the Navy Chief of Naval Operations, I wouldn't say a doggoned word about the rules of engagement specified by the SECNAV and the President. That's for them to reveal...or not.

That's an absolutely no-win situation unless the SECNAV has given me the words to say.

Tropical Wilds said:

Literally the first line lists the cause:

“Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.”

He also said in court it was a homicide:

Medical examiner doubles down on original autopsy finding, labels Floyd's death a homicide

Friday was a closely watched day in the trial of Derek Chauvin, the former police officer charged with the murder of George Floyd. It featured key testimony about what led to Floyd's death from medical examiner Dr. Andrew Baker, who performed the initial autopsy on Floyd's body and declared his...

www.pbs.org

He also said the autopsy report you linked wasn’t the final, just the initial, and the final report is sealed until appeals work through:

Medical Examiner Testifies He Wasn't Pressured When Making George Floyd Autopsy Report

The chief medical examiner who deemed George Floyd's death a homicide testified Tuesday that nobody pressured him to include anything in his autopsy report, as defense attorneys at the trial of three former Minneapolis police officers charged with violating Floyd's civil rights raised questions...

www.cbsnews.com

He also said the top line cause of death was neck compression, drugs wasn’t even the second or third line.

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Refer to paragraph III of the actual autopsy report I provided and try again. All you have show was the examiner lied under oath in the kangaroo court because he was too cowardly to tell the truth that would send a BLM mob to attack him and his family.

Oompa Loompa said:

I argue that the Navy knew who they were killing when they blew the boat out of the water.

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I would like to think that they did but there are no reports of this, as of yet

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As of yet, YOU only know what you know because the intelligence organizations are not obligated to disclose anything to you.

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I didn't say that they did but reports are coming out of Venezuela, so we would have known about it.

Oompa Loompa said:

I trust the Navy and the intelligence sources KNEW more than you, that these were confirmed drug traffickers.

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I don't trust anyone in this administration. But the videos that have been released show no attempt to follow rules of engagement. Hopefully, the Navy will release something to show they acted properly.

RocksInMyHead said:

A federal district court said that ICE could not stop people solely based on race, language, location, or job. The Supreme Court, in the opinion written by Kavenaugh, overturned that ruling. So yes, Kavenaugh effectively said, "ICE can stop people for looking like immigrants, doing the jobs that immigrants do, or speaking Spanish."

Now, you may not have a problem with that. You may think that it's reasonable. But it's also what he said.

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As you have said, "the Supreme Court overturned that ruling." So I do not give a flip about whatever a liberal activist district judge thinks.

rambot said:

So you believe the current trend of lower tourism is going to reverse? What do you think will happen that will cause the reverse?

Do you believe the stories of tourists getting held on flimsy bases are going to become not only less common but just not happenning at all?


LAstly, out of curiousity, do you think average citizens of other countries have a favourable view of America and trust their institutions?

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No matter how many international visitors come to the US for the 2026 World Cup, the event will be successful and stadiums will be full. Despite a current decline in foreign tourism in 2025, it is still expected that 3-4 million ( initial estimate is 7 million) overseas visitors will attend FIFA 2026, making it a success.

Tropical Wilds said:

So the goal is to profile and get rid of just the brown people. We are OK with the white, English speaking Canadians. The brown Spanish people, though… Round ‘em up.

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Remember, I have to have a heart before you can pull on my heart strings.

Vanellus said:

a peace vessel bound for Gaza

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Already the name of the vessel, ‘Sumud’, which means ‘perseverance’ in Arabic, was adopted by "Palestinian" militant groups as a battle cry for armed resistance against Israel. This terminology alone points to the political rather than purely humanitarian nature of the mission.

The participants, including Yasemin Acar, are Hamas supporters who expresses support for the Oct 7, 2023 terrorist attack and massacre.

Yasemin Acar is no stranger. The 38-year-old Berliner has been one of the loudest voices in Germany's anti-Israel scene for years. She celebrates Iranian rocket attacks on Israeli territory, replaces the word ‘Hamas’ with ‘Zionism’ in calls for violence against Hamas, and publicly calls for the destruction of Israel, albeit in seemingly coded slogans. Her favourite slogan is

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,"

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an anti-Semitic declaration of war that means nothing less than the annihilation of Israel. The German Home Office has now officially classified this slogan as a symbol of a banned terrorist organisation.

Among the most disturbing participants in Thunberg's ‘Madeleine’ flotilla in June 2025 was Brazilian activist Thiago Ávila, whose terrorist connections are well documented. Ávila attended the funeral of slain Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah and claimed to have met the terror chief at the age of 19.

Ávila described attending Nasrallah's funeral as a ‘great honour’ and referred to the Hezbollah leader as a ‘martyred saint and beloved leader.’ Hezbollah invited a hundred influential figures via social media to attend their leader's funeral and pay tribute to the resistance. Ávila was among those specifically courted by the terrorist organisation.

Ávila wrote on social media that he had been ‘inspired’ by the Lebanese terrorist leader, thus demonstrating his clear ideological alignment with a group responsible for the deaths of hundreds of Americans and countless Israeli civilians.

Ávila is not an isolated case among the flotilla participants. Other activists were documented dancing during the Iranian missile barrage on Israel, celebrating the attacks on Israeli civilians. One participant was filmed changing a sign from ‘Destroy Hamas’ to ‘Destroy Zionism.’ This revealed the anti-Semitic undertone behind the humanitarian rhetoric.

To those who sympathize with them: a bit of logic is enough to prevent turning into mere cogs in a colossal machine that produces delusions and myths, recycling lies under so-called “sacred” banners. A machine monopolized by radical Islamist groups, around which orbit leftist currents, associations, and global networks that praise them day and night.

This escalating farce will not end unless a practical measure changes the rules of the game. Israel, fighting on behalf of the free world, does not defend its borders alone; it also fights for everyone who believes in democracy and refuses to allow terrorist forces to impose their agendas worldwide. Yet, the inverted scene continues: flotillas bearing the banner “Freedom and Resilience” head to Gaza to support dubious agendas while the world ignores the simplest realities.

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Valletta said:

You do not have to answer any questions of ICE or any law enforcement officers. However, if it is a "Terry stop" and they ask you your name and you don't provide it, citizen or not, they can detain you.

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They can only stop you if they have reasonable articulable suspicion of a crime, and it is not a crime to not give your name in any state in the union.

Job 33:6 said:

Sure. So, does the quirky trait exist? yes, we just refer to those as mutations. Or traits as a product of mutations.

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Perhaps I did not express my point well.

The quirky trait is only considered "quirky" if it exist in the one. If the trait is beneficial and comes to exist in the many then we dismiss the "quirky" adjective and replace it with "ordinary". But the point is that the group cannot achieve that trait unless an individual introduces the trait to the group. So, "speciation" begins at the individual level.

Job 33:6 said:

When they grew together, hybrids formed ... These plants do not successfully hybridize.

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?

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That's not what I'm saying. Forward and backwards is not about beneficial vs harmful. It's about probability.

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Yes, however I qualified those movements as being equivalent to beneficial or harmful to stay in context.

Job 33:6 said:

Like if I roll dice, let's say I roll two sixes. Then two threes, then a five and a two.

When you keep rolling dice, the probability of being able to roll those same combinations perfectly in reverse order, becomes impossibly small.

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I don't think so. Mutations are independent events. That is, subsequent mutations in the same sample space occur independently from prior ones with the same probability of being beneficial or harmful or neutral.

Job 33:6 said:

So, if you could imagine, a sub population becomes reproductively isolated. It's going to go in a direction and it's not going to come back. It'll just gradually drift off to sea.

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Or not. Evolution theory denies that mutations are directed.

Job 33:6 said:

The mutations are the reality. And regardless of our labels, those mutations happen.

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Agree.

Job 33:6 said:

Labels are not imposed, they're made in an effort to classify.

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The imposition occurs when the evolutionists use their invented labels as if those inventions are real and use fallacious reasoning from that error.
For example, I invent this label as a new species -- "NewWeed".

Then I form the argument:
"If macro-evolution is true then new species will be identified."
"I identified the NewWeed species."
"Therefore, macro-evolution is true."

Job 33:6 said:

If they can reproduce through artificial insemination, then they aren't reproductively isolated.

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I don't think your consequent follows from your conditional.

The truth value of a conditional statement is the same as its contrapositive.
"If they are reproductively isolated then they cannnot reproduce through artificial insemination."

Artificial is not natural. A third agent is, therefore, involved and can transport the sperm to the egg.

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Contrast that with artificial insemination of a giraffe with an elephant. They can't reproduce. The artificial aspect is not the determining factor.

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I agree that artificial means supplants natural means. However, if the potential to successfully reproduce naturally exists in the two groups spatially and temporarily separated then I do not see the logical consistency of identifying a new species under your definition. It would seem your definition of "reproductively isolated" must also imply "forever". And, we cannot observe the future.

Thank you for the exchange.

fhansen said:

It's apparently complicated enough that people still sin.

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So until man is without sin, he does not love. . .

I'm thinkin' there are a lot of mothers that would disagree with you.

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Because it's love that excludes sin, which is why its said that love fulfills the law.

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Actually, acting with genuine selfless love will necessarily fulfill the law because it abstains from self.
But it does not mean the practitioner is totally without sin.
Only Jesus was ever without sin.

Oompa Loompa said:

All I am saying is that if you are sitting in a Home Depot parking lot looking for trabajar because you cannot speak English and you are looking to get paid in cash, there is a 99% chance you are in the country illegally. All you have demonstrated is that an illegal Canadian can go much farther because they can actually speak English, nothing more.

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So the goal is to profile and get rid of just the brown people. We are OK with the white, English speaking Canadians. The brown Spanish people, though… Round ‘em up.

RocksInMyHead said:

I almost added that in there, but decided it was too much of a stretch lol

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If you can count on me for anything, it's to torture facts in service of a mediocre joke.

Oompa Loompa said:

https://www.autopsyfiles.org/reports/Other/floyd,%20george_report.pdf

Go ahead. Show me the error of my ways. Show me exactly where the autopsy report suggest Floyd would have survived if not for the cop. I will wait.

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Literally the first line lists the cause:

“Cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual, restraint and neck compression.”

He also said in court it was a homicide:


He also said the autopsy report you linked wasn’t the final, just the initial, and the final report is sealed until appeals work through:


He also said the top line cause of death was neck compression, drugs wasn’t even the second or third line.

iluvatar5150 said:

In the default font here, the 'l' in "liberal" and the 'I' in "Illegal" are identical, so extra double checkmate.

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I almost added that in there, but decided it was too much of a stretch lol

Clare73 said:

Kinda' like the self-sacrificing love a mother has for her child. . .

The love to which Jesus calls us is to care about the well-being of our neighbor as we care about our own.

It's not complicated. . .

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It's apparently complicated enough that people still sin. Because it's love that excludes sin, which is why its said that love fulfills the law. Now, if that mother would sacrifice herself for someone else's child or for you or me or her enemy, that would be more consistent with the kind of love that God is drawing us to.

Aryeh Jay said:

Irish and Italian both begin with "I", the same as illegal.

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RocksInMyHead said:

Checkmate liberals!

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In the default font here, the 'l' in "liberal" and the 'I' in "Illegal" are identical, so extra double checkmate.