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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

Do you support the Executive Branch, via the FCC, controlling political speech on our airways? Imagine the reaction if President Obama had ordered FOX News to drop Sean Hannity....or else?
The "or else" is " you won't get FCC approval of your merger."
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

What "standard" do you speak of?

Members of Congress take an oath...let's start there.

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter"
Ok, a good argument but which is more unconstitutional speaking of a murder she may agree on or actually killing suspects in internationally waters based on suspicions?
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The Trump DOJ goes "woke" and will target free speech.

You will all need to filter yourselves.
This is no longer the United States I have known and loved for 70 years. This extension and abuse of power transcends parties. It is toxic to our basic values. How did we get here? Social media and cable news have insidiously helped.

I think I am backing out. This polemic forum and Facebook are about my only snares. Or maybe I can limit myself to non political, even non controversial topics.
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Daniel 11:40-44, followed by Armageddon

I just wonder how friendly and respectful Jesus will be toward those who preached and promoted false theories?

1 Corinthians 3:11-15 tells us that those who built their beliefs on a foundation other than Bible teachings, will be saved, but have to pass thru fire.
The Fire of God's rebuke.
When you make it into heaven "pre trib." brother the first thing that is going to be said is, this one only got one thing right, he knew the blood washes away sin. So, when I look at the above quote, I think of 3 words.

Pot, Kettle & Black
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A pastoral word on Charlie Kirk & more - LCMS

"Charlie Kirk was a devout Christian, murdered for his conservative religious and political views by a young man who has fallen victim to the ideological demons of our time."

"DEI has cost you academic advancement and employment. The leftist attack experienced in most universities has ridiculed your biblical faith and the very values you learned from your fathers and mothers, grandparents and your Confirmation pastor — values that taught you Christ, forgiveness, love, service and vocation."

I Am Not My Disability

We all make mistakes on judging the interest of the opposite sex. But what are the interests of those who ask others if they can pray for us? I suppose some are just testing their faith, that they are taught and want to believe that God can heal anyone, anywhere. Most I think are innocent though perhaps are overzealous at times. In general we all are probably are too timid when it comes to approaching poeple for public prayer. Those that encourage such prayer should include that such prayer is not just focused on healing but on the overall well-being of the person being paryed for. I will try and offer some perspective from charismatics who do pray for the sick.

I once witnessed to three Muslim boys around 16 or so in a large Euro train station. As the conversation was going nowhere, I become emboldened as I looked at the arm cast of one of the boys. I told him that Jesus could heal him and would he let me pray. I am sure they saw the seriousness of my beliefs now and yes I was going all out. In retrospect, beyond my faith and giftings. Fortunately, if this was the case, a police officer came over and told us to disburse. This of course frustrated me but as I relayed this story later to a well-known Charismatic teacher, he said it just was not the time yet. Some years later, I got hold of some Dave Roberson teachings. As he was known for having some creative miracles in his ministry and suggests that those who want to move in healings and miracles have to contend for it. Desire enrnestly the spiritual gifts to Dave must be met with a willingness to pray and fast and gain an understanding of God's word on such things. Admittedly, I think a few ministers in history have a special gift. T.L. Osborn a prominent mass healing evangelist (circa 1950s and beyond) suggests that he thought any believer could heal. He suggests that he just prayed in faith. That as believers "We will lay hands on the sick and they will recover."

So while I can understand that you may not like the word of faith doctrine, which may for some include an extreme prosperity message, I do hope you can understand though that most who want to pray mean no harm. I apologize for your bad experiences. I can say too that I have been a healing line maybe 40 times and only twice could I notice a tangible physical difference. (I would maintain that many recieve healings through personal prayer and no healing line or laying on the hands is often required. I still would get in those lines because even though I may not have recieved the exact healing I was searching for, inner healings, or other positive things likely did happen. Still, in the misses there often is a hope, you keep the right confession, you may even praise God for the healing, you try to be patient but if failure occurs, at some point a letdown happens. Actually believing for an instant healing or miracle seems easier because you know right away. Some might condemn a person's faith. but Jesus though could heal few because he found such little faith is one example. So at least in some cases, it could be a faith problem. One of the times I recieved a healing, the evangelist called out one of my exact needs and looked right at me. Those who minister should not be condescending or condemning to anyone that carries a sickness or disability. There are many reasons why someone may not be healed, especially instantly. To my knowledge, there are certain miracles too that no one, even Jesus ever performed. Like growing an entire leg. Very few too have had anyone rise from the dead since Jesus. Still, there is nothing impossible with God. Miracles though are typically associated with evangelism, they are signs and wonders created to draw locals to salvation.

I am mixed about whether to suggest that like me, the xth time for healing could result in a healing. Though there is debate on what the thorn of the flesh was, Paul inquired three times. At that point he had an understanding. I always wondered why not inquire even more or ask God if there was another way he could stay humble?

Opposite of Paul to me seems to be Naaman, an OT believer who resisted doing what it took to be healed. Fortunately, his servant got him to do what the prophet said, dip in the river seven times.

You have the spirit of God though and I trust that you can receive what God has shown. It seems perfectly reasonable that you may not want to pray with someone for your disability. I just lay these things out to help you understand word of faith Christians and healing more, not to harm or cause more distress. God bless you!
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

:sigh: We can add her to the long list of grievances with women of color.
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God, omnibenevolent or omnipotent and omniscient?

Christians remain within the traditions of Sola Scriptura or according to the Pope and such. So there is no sin or evil in God and He never tempts us.
Can God create something (according to the Bible) that doesn't come from him consciously?
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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History

But isn't it just the exact vase that was so painstakingly measured that the writer of unsigned.io now believes to be modern or changed in modern times?

Do we have the measurements for any of the other vases? By eye, they don't seem to contain the same ratios.
Yes the link below those many other vases is the tests and measurements to those vases at the Petrie museum. There are others in private collections that have good provendance. One going back to the 1800s.

When you start getting vases from early 20th and 19th century you have to ask why on earth someone would bother making such precision vases at that time to fake them when the precision of these vases was not even known or something important as far as value.

Or how forgers could even do it as precision machining is not exactly readily available to forgers even today let alone early 20th or 19th century.

Anyway the following video shows vases with proven provedance such as from carbon 14 dating from the dig layers they were found in and another dating back to 3500BC that have also been tested to high precision.

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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

No surprise that those on the left are losing their minds now that the “cancel culture” pendulum is swinging in the right’s favor.

Do you support the Executive Branch, via the FCC, controlling political speech on our airways? Imagine the reaction if President Obama had ordered FOX News to drop Sean Hannity....or else?
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

What "standard" do you speak of?

Members of Congress take an oath...let's start there.

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter"

You answered your own question.
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Sabbatarianism

The Jew's in which came to keep their feast in Jerusalem. How they kept their feast, how they determined days.

You refused to answer my question, implying that there was no difference between the "Church of God" that the promoters of the "Jews Religion" persecuted and killed, and the Pharisees themselves.

I just showed you that the "Jews" "Full well rejected God's commandments that they might live in their own traditions". This is not a teaching from Calvin, or Wesley or the Pope, this is the teaching of the Jesus, "of the Bible", and the Prophets who had the Spirit of Christ in them.

Zacharias, Simeon and Anna, (Luke 1&2) and the Wise Men no doubt, had a different spirit in them, just as Caleb did.

Who cares "HOW THEY" determined "THEIR feasts" or "THEIR Days", or how they polluted God's Sabbaths. Jesus didn't tell you to "Seek ye first the Kingdom of the "Jews", and "THEIR Righteousness". And yet, this is the foundation of your argument.

I never understood why the promoters of the religious system of the world God placed me in are so eager to be taught about God and HIS Ways, by religious men who Jesus said were "children of the devil".

Days of month begin at night to the next night

Yes, the beginning of the new day was sundown. The darkness came first, then the Light.
Days of unleavened bread (Eve to eve) of 14th day of the month till the eve of 21st day of the month

Passover ended at sundown on the 14th Day of the first month. This is why they pleaded to have His Body taken down and placed in the grave before sundown, which began the Sabbath of the 1st day of unleavened bread.
A day for a sacrifice 2 each day one in the morning and the other in the evening "daily"

Yes, the Church of God consists of children of the day, not the night.

1 Thes. 5: 4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. 5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

The First Church of God under HIS New High Priest, "After the Order of Melchizedek", counted the days correctly, according to Moses, and were gathered together, not at the Temple in Jerusalem. All the "Jews" in the City were not gathered with this Church of God, why was that? Because there is a difference between the "Church of God" and the religions of this world God placed us in. There was a difference between the Sabbaths of God and the Sabbaths of the Pharisees, the mainstream religion of that time. There was a difference between the Commandments of God, and the "Law of the Pharisees".

Until you come to terms with this undeniable Biblical Truth, you will never understand Paul.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

Destiny's Twitch ban doesn't seem to be related to anything in this discussion.
Yeah, that was a couple years ago iirc - he posted about it again in the wake of Kirk's assassination as ragebait/trolling.
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Trump Calls For Ilhan Omar’s Removal From Congress

One would think that at some point a person voted in as a United States Representative should be held to a standard. For the United States, not against it. If all she wants to do is tear down our institutions, then she isn't being productive, but working against progress.

What "standard" do you speak of?

Members of Congress take an oath...let's start there.

"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter"
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Why is this forum so politically active?

It's not an issue for me but, rather, a curiosity.
Because the forum, in the end, is a business enterprise and the political forums have the most traffic, thereby the most value to the forum's owner. Traffic = income from adverts.
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ABC pulls Jimmy Kimmel Live after comments on Charlie Kirk

The FCC attempting to shut it down would end up in court in a heartbeat and lose. That's not an issue. Your cite has the implication that this is an issue without evidence that it is.

The circumstantial timing of the events certainly supports my implication. One would have to be naive to believe otherwise. The FCC chair's public comments - “we can do this the easy or the hard way" and Trump's), support my implication. And yes, Kimmel could sue the government and likely win (once the evidence is provided in court). Disney/ABC could have sued as well....but of course they took the less costly path. After all, a corporation could care less about freedom of speech.

Agreed. This wasn't "cancel culture" in action. There was no huge outcry from conservatives demanding it. This was just a guy getting fired. But to Kimmel's credit, him getting himself fired is the first funny thing he's ever done.

One person has been whining about Kimmel (and other late night comedians) for years. That person was celebrating yesterday. There's no doubt Trump will use the power of the government to remove other critics now they he has removed a second comedian from the airways.
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