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There’s a Giant Flaw in Human History
- By sjastro
- Physical & Life Sciences
- 1349 Replies
Now that we have gone back to images of cuts in rocks here is a statue of Bahubali one of the largest free standing monolithic statues carved from granite and completed around 980 AD.
(The fig leaf is a modern day construction not to upset conservative Christian sensitivities).
Now lets look at the technological development of iron and when it became hard enough to cut through or shape granite without the use of abrasives.
So therefore they must have used some unknown super technology like the predynastic Egyptians, in fact every cut mark in granite, a granite block or statue that was produced before the advent of crucible steel in the 18th century must have been produced using this super technology which then disappeared without a trace.
An obvious question which arises why did this super technology disappear only to be replaced by a major backwards step in technology in using crucible steel?!!
Here are the facts abrasive cutting went well into the 19th century using a sand and water slurry like the ancient Egyptians had used in combination with copper saws thousands of year earlier.
Works such as the statue of Bahubali are a testament to craftmanship not technology.
Now lets look at the technological development of iron and when it became hard enough to cut through or shape granite without the use of abrasives.
| Period | Material/Technology | Hardness (Mohs) | Could cut granite w/out abrasives? | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| < 1200 BCE | Bronze | 3–4 | ❌ | Used abrasives (sand + copper saws) |
| 1200–600 BCE | Wrought iron | 4 | ❌ | Slightly tougher, still too soft |
| 600–400 BCE | Early carburized steel | 5–6 | ⚠️ Limited | Could peck, not slice granite |
| 18th century | Crucible steel | 7–8 | ✅ | First reliable granite chisels |
| 20th century | Tungsten carbide / Diamond | 9–10 | ✅✅ | Industrial stonecutting era |
Using the 'logic' employed in this thread based on the fallacies of argument of personal incredulity and argument from ignorance, even though the carvers of the statue had access to iron tools, the tools were not hard enough to cut directly or shape granite, the technology only became available in the 18th century with the development of crucible steel which is carbon hardened.So therefore they must have used some unknown super technology like the predynastic Egyptians, in fact every cut mark in granite, a granite block or statue that was produced before the advent of crucible steel in the 18th century must have been produced using this super technology which then disappeared without a trace.
An obvious question which arises why did this super technology disappear only to be replaced by a major backwards step in technology in using crucible steel?!!
Here are the facts abrasive cutting went well into the 19th century using a sand and water slurry like the ancient Egyptians had used in combination with copper saws thousands of year earlier.
Works such as the statue of Bahubali are a testament to craftmanship not technology.
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The Schumer Shutdown
- By JosephZ
- American Politics
- 861 Replies
“I can’t guarantee it’s going to pass,” Thune told MSNBC. “I can guarantee you that there will be a process and you will get a vote.”
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rapture and tribulation books
- By Richard T
- Pentecostal & Assemblies of God
- 13 Replies
I like this minister/teacher. It is a dispensational view, with a pre-tribulation rapture. I admit that I have not read this book, but I have listened to the 20 or so lessons from this teacher (former pastor) on the end times. He also is one of the few who have written a book on simplified theology from a Pentecostal view. I believe his views mirror the Assembly of God in most things and particularly the end times. Here is the free google preview.
Understanding the End Times
A Last Days Play-by-Play for the ChristianCountless books have been written that link current events to end-time scriptures predicting the soon return of Jesus. But too often Christians have devalued the Bible message by predicting an Antichrist who dies, or by predicting dates that come and go...
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