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Jamdoc said:

So, just led to Matthew today, and I'm reading and something stood out in the sermon of the Mount

Matthew 5

right so this part we all know, to give context

Heaven and Earth do pass away, and a New Earth comes.. meaning the laws can pass away then, and be removed, or replaced.

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The text does not say that "heaven and earth" will pass away, but is given in the conditional: until, if ever, they pass away. The law is basically the operating envelope within which we humans were designed to function. As long as we exist and are human, in whatever form, the law describes how we are to live. Is the resurrected Jesus still human? Yes, though enhanced. Does his behavior conform to the law of God? Of course, if we believe he is sinless.

Gen. 1:1 introduces the expression "heaven and earth" (shamayim and eretz). What are they? It is easy for modern readers to assume they consist of the modern cosmological model from astrophysics of the universe, but that is not necessarily the scope of their meaning in scripture. It could be constrained to observation, as "sky and land" to which the Hebrew words otherwise are translated. So when Peter uses language suggesting destruction of the earth, it is easy to fantasize the scope of this destruction to mean the whole planet.

Daniel Carlton said:

That is exactly the point, you have just given it a different name and expect it to be believed. Sorry, I will not take your word for it - when a person or group create a thing, plant them in their place of worship, gives them names and make them fundamental part of their religion, to me that is literal idolatry.

Like I said about the early Christians, they do not call what you are doing icon veneration, they call it idolatry.

You complain I made up my mind but it is based off what I read in Gods word and the early Christians. You guys have done nothing except be dismissive and say ''it is not'' but that is not good enough for me when weighed against strong evidence.

The car was just an example and illustration and you are right - it is something but with a different badge. Like something else we are talking about.

If anything, you guys need to prove that there is a difference between an icon and an idol, because you are arguing the affirmative on that point.

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May he rest in peace and rise to glory!

iluvatar5150 said:

And as I pointed out in my post, moving out of the way does not constitute "granting her access" the way you claimed.

I don't see a tactical team providing her aid, but it's possible I'm just not picking up on certain identifying elements. Either way, it's not hard to see why nobody else fired a shot. Even before she climbed through the window, several individuals at the front spotted the gun, called it out, realized they were about to get to the "Find Out" part of "FAFO" and started backing off. Babbitt, it would seem, didn't get the message. After she was shot, the crowd really got the hint and stopped trying to force its way through.

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The tactical team was right behind her

Michie said:

Who wants to get married in a big huge clunky looking shoe??

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I have no idea! LOL

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Hentenza said:

Who is Pail talking about? Who is us?

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That's the question. And to believe that everyone who ever heard those words, which are only meant as words of encouragement and exhortation to begin with, and applied them to themselves, whether they be the first audience who heard them or any of the rest of us down through the centuries, was/is necessarily saved woud not be reasonable, For that matter, the bible speaks of those who thought they were one of God's but were not, and others who didn't know they were His but were.

Hentenza said:

All with saving faith will persevere.

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And we'll know for certain who persevered-who apparently had this "saving faith"- at the end.

Hentenza said:

All that have saving faith have love so I don’t know what you are arguing about.

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If we love, we'll show the fruit of that love-and you know far better than I if you have it. If so, more power to you; you're doing God's will.

Hentenza said:

The Bible is clear that God pardons sin by His grace based on Christ’s work on the cross alone, not on man’s actions. This is part of our daily prayers asking for forgiveness for our daily sins so Jesus is not referring to God’s initial act of forgiveness (reconciliation) that we experienced when we first believed the Gospel. We pray this prayer daily and daily we forget some of our sins including forgiving someone that did us wrong. God does not go back in His promises.

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You seem to accept the carrots and reject any sticks. To the extent that we love, then we will have no problem forgiving others. But with faith and without love we are nothing, as Paul tells us in 1 Cor 13. Jesus didn't say those words in Matt 6 just to fill in space. Again, if you love, if you return the love and mercy that's been shown to you, then you're doing God's will. This begins with faith in Him. His purpose is to produce something in us, something better than He began with, something like Himself, something within whom real truth and justice and righteousness reign, rather than simply to ignore injustice now and allow us to remain in our sins as long as we...believe.

Warden_of_the_Storm said:

No, it is kind of true. Fossilization is a rare thing to happen, let alone the fossils being able to survive the millennia since they formed to be able to be dug up.

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Thanks for the response!

Michie said:

People are addicted to Trump. And they speak of those that voted for him? I think it’s much worse on the other side.

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It's bizarre.

Glory to God in all things!

May the Lord have mercy upon you and fill you with his abundant peace

May the Lord fill you with knowledge and wisdom! In his name, I pray! Amen!

Lord,

Have mercy on Jim. Heal him in body, soul, and spirit and fill him with your abundant grace and peace.

IN your holy name, I pray.

Amen!

rjs330 said:

We've just added another woman to the mass shooter index.

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Well...he was in reality a man. So, no.

Michie said:

Westman knew it was not real.

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I think they all do IMO. That's why they get so angry when someone "misgenders" them. They know in their hearts of hearts it's wrong.

ozso said:

It's actually a very real official medical report:

Memorandum from the White House Physician

www.whitehouse.gov

And it shows that Trump is indeed in excellent physical condition.

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It certainly claims that he’s in excellent physical condition. I don’t like playing conspiracy theorist, but some of those numbers seem a bit suspect. Maybe he’s lost weight recently, but the BMI of 28 (calculated from his height of 6’3” and weight of 224 lb) strikes me as particularly questionable.

RileyG said:

Transsexual, but yes. He "identified" as a woman.

No, I will not respect his chosen name nor pronouns because he was a murderer.

May God avenge the blood of the little children!

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We've just added another woman to the mass shooter index.

Postvieww said:

Being Christian in name is not the same as being Christian in heart.

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Alot of German Christians thought they were Christians at heart.

The truth is more complicated than simplistic narratives of German Christians being "real" or not. In truth, many German Christians, just like many white Evangelicals in the US, saw themselves in a place of cultural weakness, and therefore supported a demagogue who scapegoated Jews and Socialists..

RileyG said:

It's actually really pretty!

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@Michie Apparently the shoe "Church" isn't consecrated but it's a popular wedding venue. Maybe that's a blessing, eh?

Xeno.of.athens said:

I do not know what is unclear in the OP. You need to tell me what you do not understand.

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My two guesses in post #307 are my two best attempts to understand what you are saying in the OP. You've said that both of my guesses are wrong. I don't have a third guess to offer. Thus, what I do not understand is your thesis statement in this thread.

You are trying to tell us something about your vision of Christian unity. What are you trying to tell us? Genuinely, I don't know.

JosephZ said:

It was a yes or no question. Isn't saving a few lives is better than saving none?

While it may not be the only reason, there appears to be a direct correlation between the number of guns available and mass shootings.. The number of assault-style weapons in the US has increased from 1–2 million in the 1970s to more than 25 million today.

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Here I thought America was safer than ever.

These things are happening not because of the guns but because of the people. People who are mentally ill, or have specific grievances and find that they can be famous for their actions. They see what notoriety others get and they want the same.

But it is true. If you want fewer people to die then you have to get rid of the guns. All of them. These people will just kill with knives, but fewer kids will probably die in school attacks.

Disgusting. If this is true, they should be ashamed of themselves.

May God bless him abundantly!