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LizaMarie · Aug 27, 2025

I want to be clear I’m NOT saying that this person was violent because they were transgender. This person obviously had a mental health issue and I also blame the internet as it sounds like this person was radicalized online. What I’m saying is IMO hormones/ surgery which are irreversible should not be performed on minors regardless of what our society says. This person had problems and introducing hormones during puberty that are foreign to the body did not help matters on top of other problems this person must have had. And yes common sense gun laws. Also WHY is this happening with such frequency now, when I was a child( back 60 years ago this didn’t happen and people had guns then too. Most gun violence then was domestic or criminal activity then. There’s a mental health epidemic now for one thing. I blame the internet/copycat this shooter apparently was obsessed with school shootings

Yarddog · Aug 27, 2025

Chesterton said:
You're unremittingly confused. I'm done with this.

Good, you never had a good position to start with

essentialsaltes · Aug 27, 2025

As the article notes, the man has a prior for child abuse.

He deserves a fair trial, but when this first showed up on the local news, it didn't look good for the parents.

Hentenza · Aug 27, 2025

JosephZ said:
This comes down to common sense. If a school shooter comes armed with an assault-style rifle with several high-capacity magazines, they are going to be able to kill and injure more children than they would with a rifle or handgun with magazines that can only hold 10 or fewer rounds.

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Below are a couple of screenshots from a video today's shooter uploaded that show the weapons he brought with him.

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Which weapon would be the most efficient at killing a room full of children? A revolver with 6 rounds, a semi-automatic pistol with several 10-round magazines, or an assault-style rifle with several 45+ round magazines?

Since the answer to the question is obvious, don't you think passing common-sense gun laws that can save children's lives, even if it's a few, is better than doing nothing at all?

“Mass shootings (MS) account for less than 1% of firearm deaths in the US, but the frequency has increased.1 Risk factors for MS perpetration include societal discrimination, contagion effects, firearm access, mental illness, and substance abuse.2 Previous geographically and analytically limited studies found MS with handguns had higher fatality rates than those with rifles,3 and following an age-based assault weapons (AWs) restriction there was a reduction in firearm violence from AWs.4 Another study found that the 1994 federal AWs ban was associated with fewer MS.5 To further investigate the association between type of firearm and lethality of MS, this study examined what firearms were present at publicly targeted fatal MS and determined if AWs were associated with a higher number of injuries or deaths.

Results
From August 1, 1966, to November 6, 2023, there were 184 publicly targeted fatal MS (3.2 per year) with 1342 total deaths and 2084 nonfatal injuries. Multiple firearms were present in 96 events (52.2%) (mean 3.1 per event); handguns were the most common firearm type (145 MS [78.8%] involved a handgun) followed by 55 (29.2%) that involved an AW, but only 13 (7.1%) involved AWs exclusively. Incidents with AWs (vs without) were more likely to have multiple firearms (45 [81.8%] vs 51 [39.5%]) and shooters with no firearms experience (6 [11.1%] vs 38 [29.7%]) (Table 1).

Banning assault weapons could result in less mass shootings, however, assault weapons were only used in 29% of ms compared to handguns being present on 78.8% of ms so banning aws is only going to force those that have the predisposition to do a ms to use a different type of weapon like a handgun or a shotgun.

essentialsaltes · Aug 27, 2025

The school system has made some changes for these non-school activities that will now mirror the existing rules for school hours:

"pool access requirements during non-school hours will mirror those during our standard time during the day of a 100% ID check against the sex offender database before anyone is allowed to enter any of our facilities, including the after school non-community time.”

APS says they have also posted “additional signage” to aquatic centers “that reminds all pool patrons to be considerate of others, privacy, cover intimate body areas when using shared spaces.” Superintendent Francisco Durán told APS families, “Arlington Public Schools will continue to foster an inclusive community for all, including members who identify as members of LGBTQ+ community.”

Saber Truth Tiger · Aug 27, 2025

SabbathBlessings said:
Joe Cruz used to own Amazing Facts but when he died, he passed it over to Doug Batchelor. We are very blessed to have some great speakers. I listen to Pastor Doug's sermons all the time. Feel free to reach out if you ever want to chat.

God bless!

I read Samuelle's book on the day of the crucifixion and resurrection often. It's one of my favorites, but I don't agree with him on some of his points. But I do believe Jesus was crucified on a Friday and raised from the dead on a Sunday. I don't buy into the story that "three days and three nights" is an idiom. I believe it is a scribal gloss or emendation because it creates contradictions elsewhere in the Gospels and I Corinthians 15. I do not believe it is an idiom as many claim. However, it is a certainty that Jesus was crucified on a Friday.

I have DID, and sometimes I am a different person altogether, and one of them is an atheist. Another one is a polytheist. I am a theist, at least right now I am. These different personalities take similar views on this topic, but the polytheist and the atheist call the 3d and 3n a contradiction. Only the theist, sometimes a Sabbath keeping theist, holds to this as resolved in favor of the scribal emendation theory. I believe some scribe, very early in the textual transmission of Matthew 12, emended or glossed the text, leaving us with what we have today. I can't prove it, but I believe it over the alternative theories.

eclipsenow · Aug 27, 2025

A2SG said:
Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the entire for-profit health insurance industry, and switch to a single payer system. This way, you wouldn't be at the mercy of whatever changes your private, for profit health insurance company chooses to make to whatever plan your employer chooses to offer you.

I agree with many of the criticisms of the Heritage Foundation created ACA. It's a conservative, market based plan that only bolsters the private for profit health insurance industry. I'll grant you that it's better than nothing, but not by a lot.

-- A2SG, but I hope you realize that President Obama personally didn't make any changes to your company's chosen health insurance plan....

I hear you - and those for profit insurance agencies certainly do raise the costs by paying shares, paying their ridiculous CEO salaries, paying huge marketing fees, etc. The Federal government as a single-insurer would cut a lot of those costs, and just have public servants running it.

But if that's all that happens - will not the Federal government be footing the bill to pad the wallets of profit-driven private hospital CEO's, marketing, etc?

The Federal government also needs to buy at least half the hospitals to be government owned and operated. That’s the way it is here in Australia, and how we deliver UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE at half the price!

[ Private hospitals have a profit motive which means pushing extra procedures and scans “Just to be sure…” - just so we can charge you more! ]

RESULTS: Australians go to the doctors more, get diagnosed earlier, and go to the hospital sooner to nip it in the bud earlier. All at HALF the cost of the American system.
U.S. Health Care from a Global Perspective, 2022: Accelerating Spending, Worsening Outcomes

How Does the U.S. Healthcare System Compare to Other Countries?

Check the wiki sources:
Healthcare in the United States - Wikipedia

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

MehGuy said:
If she goes to jail.. she's gonna be a white supremacist martyr.

Disgusting! I can never understand the thought process of these people.

MehGuy · Aug 27, 2025

RileyG said:
That’s not good!

If she goes to jail.. she's gonna be a white supremacist martyr.

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

Oompa Loompa said:
I think it is amazing how liberal white women know more about racism than the black men in this thread.

Some people may not be aware you’re African American (or if you prefer the term black, it’s up to you)

Just, BTW

Oompa Loompa · Aug 27, 2025

CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN said:
You can't get blood out of a turnip.BTW , illegals can't trust our government , to self report. They more likely put them into a detention prison in another country.

Many illegals are self deporting. Those who refuse to leave and not doing so out of their lack of trust in the government, but because they are surrounded by liberal enablers.

wing2000 · Aug 27, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
A federal grand jury refused to indict a man who threw a sandwich at a federal officer, and grand jurors refused three times to indict a woman accused of assaulting an FBI agent.

Imagine that? A panel of citizens are not buying what Ms Pirro is selling.

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

MehGuy said:
She might get even more now that she is being charged with a crime.

That’s not good!

wing2000 · Aug 27, 2025

ThatRobGuy said:
All that being said, I'm not terribly worried about my SSN getting out there from this.
1) It's already out there getting passed around the dark web, I was impacted by the Equifax breach
2) If people are that concerned about it, the first thing people should is put a freeze in place with the 3 major bureaus, and keep an ongoing fraud alert on their file.

#2 is something that I recommend everyone do regardless of whether or not they think there's been a breach.

Good point. And yea, we have #2 in place. There are simply too many security breaches these days to leave credit lines "open".

Konnie King · Aug 27, 2025

The Oddball Couple

JohnClay · Aug 27, 2025

So the Bible mentions 3 people who fasted for 40 days... I wonder if any Christians have done a 40 day fast in modern times? (if they prayed enough, etc) I think some people in mental wards had tried to fast for dangerously long times...

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

JosephZ said:
Trans people rarely commit mass shootings
Over the past decade, the nonprofit Gun Violence Archive has recorded more than 5,300 mass shootings, defined as incidents in which at least four people were shot, excluding the perpetrators. Only four of those — less than one-tenth of 1 percent — were committed by people known to identify as trans or nonbinary. They were the 2023 Covenant School shooter, the 2023 Club Q shooter, one of the 2019 STEM School Highlands Ranch shooters, and the 2018 Maryland Rite Aid warehouse shooter. Right-wing personalities frequently point to these four incidents to suggest that trans people are a threat.

I think it’s extremely rare because they’re a very small minority. White, straight, men are more likely to be violent than them ie Eric Harris, Dylan Kebold etc

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

essentialsaltes said:
Prevalence of identifying as transgender is roughly 1%, and transgender mass shooters are about 0.1% of mass shootings. So they are under-represented by an order of magnitude.

Women are underrepresented by a similar factor.

Perhaps it's time to talk about the high percentage of violence among men.

Also, countless transgender people have been victims of brutal violence.

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

LizaMarie said:
I think there is a difference between an adult transitioning and a child. Children’s frontal lobes are not fully formed and there are hormonal swings and hence we don’t serve alcohol to anyone under 21 and I think that should also go for gun purchases. Surgery and top and bottom surgery is permanent and irreversible and shouldn’t be done before 18 or even 21. Children don’t have the maturity to think about forever

Or even 25! The brain isn’t fully mature until that age!

eclipsenow · Aug 27, 2025

ozso said:
You know who threw me off healthcare for years? Obama. Obamacare destroyed a wonderful health plan I had for 18 years. And I'm sure many others in that working class industry of over one million suffered as well.

Now you know the part CNN didn't tell you about.

I didn't know that - thank you for explaining that to me.
So you like the fact that Trump made this WORSE for 16 million extra Americans?

RileyG · Aug 27, 2025

LizaMarie said:
I'm going to say something that is going to trigger both sides! (I'm an Independent)
Firstly, this shooter had something in common with the shooter in Tennessee in 2023, who was a female to male transgender.
Minneapolis shooter was a male to female transgender who started transitioning as a teen(changed his birth certificate at age 17,had gender affirming care,etc) and his mother worked at the school and he attended the school. So , was familiar with how the school operated, worked,etc.
We don't know the home-life.
I support the 2nd amendment but I agree with durangogodwood above. I also propose to raise the legal age to purchase firearms to be 21, maybe even 25(heck you can't rent a car until you're 25!)nationwide. The frontal cortex of our brains aren't fully formed until the early 20's (I've raised children and been a child myself.) They may not make a difference in all school shootings like this one, but it's a start. I also support red flag laws. Can they be abused, sure but I support them nationwide.
Secondly, and I don't know if it would have made a difference in this case, But gender affirming care/hormones/surgery should not be legal until age 18, or even 21. I can't believe it's even a debate in our society,but children are being sterilized and given hormones before they are fully mature. This is nothing to do with bigotry it's common sense.
Once you are a legal adult then if you want to change your gender, go for it!
This case has strong similarities to the one in Tennessee.
I would add that there is so much toxic stuff on social media and corners of the internet, his manifesto was in Russian, apparently.
If Trump wanted to write these two EO's I'd support them.

Very well said, thank you!

eclipsenow · Aug 27, 2025

rjs330 said:
No its not. Its a Constitutional Republic. Which means its has some democratic processes. But its not a full democracy.

It depends what you mean by "Full democracy". I just want to clarify that when I posted before, I was not discussing a Constitutional setup - say Presidential vs Westminster - but the quality of the democracy achieving its own stated goals (and also probably some fairly universal ideals as measured by the agency running the analysis.)

The Economist rates the USA as a "Flawed Democracy" as it has a significant degree of democratic backsliding.
Australia is a Full Democracy in that we get a pass mark.
It's not style, it's quality

Veni · Aug 27, 2025

the greatest task in life is to find reality. better the hard truth than comforting fantasy.

Hentenza · Aug 27, 2025

concretecamper said:
If you believe that the Eucharist is His Body and Blood, you'd be Catholic and would be able to receive. If you reject this Scriptural teaching, don't complain.

The scriptural teaching is NOT transubstantiation.

“and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.” For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until He comes.”
‭‭1 Corinthians‬ ‭11‬:‭24‬-‭26‬ ‭NASB2020‬‬

1 Corinthians 11:24-26 and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new c | New American Standard Bi

and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way He also took the cup after supper, saying, “This cup is the new c

bible.com

Jesus described communion as a remembrance of Him and nothing here points to a literal meaning. In fact Jesus was still alive and wearing His body and His blood was still circulating in His body keeping Him alive. His sacrifice did not come until His crucifixion. Jesus, after all, was fully human. The doctrine of transubstantiation was a later development.

And I do believe the symbolism of communion so I don’t have to complain.

Veni · Aug 27, 2025

the greatest task in life is to find reality. better the hard truth than comforting fantasy.

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