keras said:

You are a purveyor of untruths.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 never says humans will be taken to heaven, there - or anywhere else in the Bible.
Those faithful Christians who kept strong and trusted the Lord through all that must happen before Jesus Returns, will be transported to where He will be; in the clouds, then in Jerusalem.

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Then explain 1. Thess 4:13-17. and did the Holy Spirit not pass typing school. ??

dan p

Zaha Torte said:

I don't know why we should consider Australia to be a good example for anything let alone this.

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A gratuitous insult highlighting an ignorance of Australia! He explained exactly why.

Vambram said:

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Well… I hope that the audience that graphic was designed for is able to find a measure of peace from its words.

Tropical Wilds said:

So what I’m hearing is it’s no biggie to kill elected officials as long they aren’t one of the big ones.

Interesting.

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Hey man....WHATEVER it takes to make the right look good and the left look bad.

Tropical Wilds said:

Actually, I was being dismissive. I’m not a “leftist” so I didn’t think that anything you said applied to me so I wasn’t bothered one way or the other, so a “I know what you are but what am I” wouldn’t have made sense.

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I have no reason to believe you and believe this is just cope.

Tropical Wilds said:

With stances like you’ve just shared with the class, I’d say that’s a fair assessment. Yelling “2 + leprechaun = yellow” doesn’t really require anybody jump in to say “hey, you’re confused” followed by a stimulating debate.

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People keeping making a lot of claims about the things I say - but never any attempt to refute them.

Chesterton said:

Could you point me to which posts you replied in?

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62, 73, 79, 88, 94, 97, 101…

The absolute closest translation to the original text is KJV. Some translations like ESV, give you the idea of the text but it's not good if you're studying scripture. I normally read NKJV because its closest to KJV without the hard english, so its easier to understand but when I'm studying, I always use an interlinear bible or a concordance so I can see what the original wording is to have a better idea of what was being said. It gives me a more well-rounded understanding.

zippy2006 said:

Of course you can. Gullibility is a blameworthy trait.

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If you want to blame someone for that then it's up to you.

zippy2006 said:

The problem with your approach is that it involves both a double standard and a distancing of yourself from "the deplorables."

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I'm pretty certain that somewhere upstream I said something along the lines of 'we are all susceptible to...'. I'm certainly not excluding me from any of the faults that have been discussed. Please don't consider this to be an 'us v them' position.

zippy2006 said:

We could fold over your own approach against you: "You can blame them if they are a dishonest person," where "dishonest person" just means "someone who does not agree with me." Given that you cannot flesh out your notion of "honesty" beyond a question-begging redundancy...

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Dishonesty is a pretty easy term to define. So much so that I shan't even bother linking to a dictionary definition. But let's use an example. Say someone is arguing for less immigration. There are reasonable arguments to be made for that position. But let's say that someone blames a lot of crime on immigrants, therefore there should be less. You'd be quite entitled to post links and facts and figures to show that the crime rate among immigrants is lower than the general population, so they can't use that as a reason. And you'll generally not get a response to that because a) it's true, and b) accepting it removes one of the main arguments that the person wants to use.

So that's now off the table. You can move on to taxes, job rates etc. But what you will often find is the same argument used by the same person further downstream, or in a different thread. They might say that they actually believe what they are saying. But they have no evidence for it and have been presented with evidence to the contrary. They are then being....what was the term..? Ah yes. Dishonest.

zippy2006 said:

Your account is also wrong. There are no contextless culpabilities. There is no material proposition that cannot be honestly held. Folks who think such a thing usually can't see beyond their own bias. For example, there are honest flat-earthers. There is no proposition such that to hold it and to hold it dishonestly are the same thing.

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I'm pretty certain that flat earthers are honest, law abiding people. But you can actually prove to them that some of their arguments are wrong. So they'll ignore that argument and head off somewhere else. That's being dishonest.

RDKirk said:

If attacking foreign civilians is an act of war, then doing it is not a war crime.

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Why not? Why can't it be both? This is asked in sincere ignorance.

RDKirk said:

It would be interesting if war involved only soldiers on the designated battlefield, but that's never been the case.

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A rule more honored in the breach?

keras said:

I use the Revised English Bible 1989. It and most other Bible versions, make it clear that Christians are the true Israelites of God.
To think the current citizens of the Jewish State of Israel are Gods chosen people, is gross error; made only to support the false rapture to heaven theory.

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And just asking. , who do you call those that are in Israel TODAY with a verse ??

and all those Jews that occupy NEW YORK TODAY and those that live in the USA. ??

DAN P

durangodawood said:

Half staff is for allies, not national enemies.

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How was she a national enemy?

Considering there was a report that turned social media against conservatives, I'm not surprised really. Putin was right that depending on who gets into the whitehouse, the US can be a completely different country. It's only going to get worse from here! The anti-christ will target Christians, so this is only the beginning...

Tropical Wilds said:

I replied twice. Then asked for clarification, you declined.

As I said, clocked and noted.

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Could you point me to which posts you replied in?

johnnypapa said:

U.S. Department of Justice report faults Biden administration for anti-Christian bias

U.S. Department of Justice headquarters building in Washington, D.C. / Credit: Bjoertvedt, CC BY-SA 3.0 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0>, via Wikimedia CNA Staff, Sep 8, 2025 / 18:06 pm (CNA). A new report from the U.S. De...

www.catholicworldreport.com

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Trump has found plenty of complaints from Christians as well.

Considering Trump is also giving Kirk a posthumous Medal of Freedom, I don't have a problem with lowering the flags to half-staff for him. He was a champion for MAGA, and MAGA is in charge.

Zaha Torte said:

How so?

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He was not particularly bright, but he was politically shrewd and very aggressive.

Zaha Torte said:

He was smarter than me too.

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Not disputing that.

Zaha Torte said:

Reality is only offensive to the deluded and prideful.

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But you're describing an alternate reality, deliberately offensive.

prodromos said:

The left ALWAYS frames his comments ONLY with regards to children.

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Stupid left always so worried about children. What goofballs.

Chesterton said:

Your complete lack of response to my post #22 is duly noted, but not interesting, only expected, coming from your side.

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I replied twice. Then asked for clarification, you declined.

As I said, clocked and noted.

Chesterton said:

Has it slipped your mind that it's not just you and I here, that other people can read your posts?

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Oh I’m counting on it.

Zaha Torte said:

Not according to the Thirteenth Amendment to the US Constitution.

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Read the whole thing:

The government controls prisoners or allows private prisons to do so.

NxNW said:

"Some deaths" isn't limited to 18+, so clearly he meant children too.

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The left ALWAYS frames his comments ONLY with regards to children.

Tropical Wilds said:

No response, no refuting.

Interesting and noted.

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Your complete lack of response to my post #22 is duly noted, but not interesting, only expected, coming from your side. Has it slipped your mind that it's not just you and I here, that other people can read your posts?