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Trump Falls Behind Harris in Betting Market for First Time

Trump Falls Behind Harris in Betting Market for First Time


Traders and oddsmakers now give Kamala Harris better odds than Trump of winning the 2024 presidential election​


Former President Trump is no longer favored to beat Vice President Harris in the 2024 race for the White House, according to major betting markets tracked by FOX Business.

As of Monday morning, Harris surpassed Trump as the odds-on favorite to win the presidency on BetUS with 55% implied probability, marking the first time since the platform opened the market that the Democratic nominee took the lead.

Over the weekend, the two presidential contenders had been in a dead heat on the site.

Traders on prediction site PolyMarket also favored Harris on Monday, giving her a 51% chance of winning the race, compared to Trump's 46%. On PredictIt, where Harris has been leading Trump for weeks, bettors give Harris a 59% chance of winning, while Trump's odds fell to 43%.

"Not only is Harris now leading in the betting odds, but she is also leading in terms of the total number of wagers placed and total dollar volume bet so far, which is an impressive feat considering she only became the official nominee a week ago," BetUS director of public relations, Tim Williams, told FOX Business.

He added, "I personally wouldn’t have expected so much money to have been bet on Kamala so quickly, but here we are."

Williams went on to note it would appear that Harris is also attracting larger wagers than Trump, which in the sports betting world is often indicative of "sharp money," meaning more professional bettors.

Momentum for Harris continues to surge following President Biden's unprecedented decision to withdraw from the race last month.


A Wednesday poll from NPR, PBS and Marist found that Harris has a 3-point lead over Trump among registered voters, and a Thursday poll from Marquette Law School showed Harris has established a 4-point lead over the former president.

WHO has gone up to heaven and come down?

Proverbs 30:4 provides an allusion to the notion of the special Son of God and not just any angelic sons of God:

Who has gone up to heaven and come down?
Whose hands have gathered up the wind?
Who has wrapped up the waters in a cloak?
Who has established all the ends of the earth?
What is his name, and what is the name of his son?
Surely you know!
Who has gone up to heaven and come down?

Jesus affirmed the uniqueness of Sonship in John 3:

13 No one has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven--the Son of Man.
What about Gabriel and Satan?

There are two possible explanations:

  1. Jesus might have referred to human beings.
No one [human being] has ascended into heaven except the One who descended from heaven--the Son of Man.
2. Gabriel and Satan had gone up to heaven and come down but not in the context of Pr 30:

4b Whose hands have gathered up the wind?

Can We Sin in Heaven?

I am curious of your position. Many Christians would argue that God gives us free will, and that without free will, we would be mindless robots, and that is not a true expression of love.

So when we go to eternal Heaven, here on the new Earth, after the battle of Armageddon and after the great throne judgement, will we have the free will to sin or do evil?

This question seems absurd, but I have heard only two answers.

1) We will not want to sin, because we will have renewed bodies free of our fleshly desires.
Not wanting to sin, doesn't mean we won't be able to sin.... does it?

2) There will be no choice to sin, like a buffet of good things to eat, but no bad things.
This seems odd, as we know that before Adam sinned in the Garden, Lucifer had already sinned against God in Heaven.

What are your thoughts?

Which Kamala are we voting for?

Kamala Harris has faced criticism for some contradictions in her political career and policy positions. Here are a few notable examples:

  1. Criminal Justice Reform: As a prosecutor and later as California’s Attorney General, Harris was known for her “tough on crime” stance, which included supporting the death penalty and opposing measures to reduce mass incarceration1. However, during her 2020 presidential campaign, she advocated for criminal justice reform and criticized the very policies she once enforced1.
  2. Healthcare: Initially, Harris supported a single-payer healthcare system and co-sponsored Bernie Sanders’ Medicare for All bill. However, during her presidential campaign, she shifted her stance, proposing a more moderate plan that maintained a role for private insurance2.
  3. Fracking: Harris has also changed her position on fracking. While she initially supported a ban on fracking, she later moderated her stance, aligning more closely with the Biden administration’s position2.
  4. Abortion: Harris has been a strong advocate for abortion rights, but her position has evolved over time. She initially supported the Hyde Amendment, which restricts federal funding for abortions, but later opposed it during her presidential campaign2.
These shifts in positions have led to accusations of inconsistency and political opportunism.

She claims that from Day one she will tackle inflation - why has she not done that in the last 3 and a half years?

She claims she will control the border - why hasn't she controlled it in the last three and a half years?


She claims she will stop tips from being taxed - that is straight from Trump weeks ago.

This is why an indepth interview and more than one debate is needed -

Ukrainian army marching further into Russia

I certainly did not see this coming. The situation is so dire for Russia right now that Putin is moving troops from Kaliningrad to Kursk to help support the forces there

God Created Evil

I have been a Christian since 2006, and in most of those years, Christians I spoke to would staunchly rebuke the idea that God created evil. They would say evil is simply a result of our human sinful choices. But that's not what the Bible clearly states...

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7

Many Christians will use James as a rebuke, where he states God never tempts anyone, but tempting someone to sin, and creating evil are not the same thing. God created everything that exists, evil exists, therefore God created evil... this even fits a logical argument. But why would a holy God create evil? For His Glory.

This is the difficult answer so many people struggle with: God created all there is for His glory, and nothing else.

“Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth, everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory” Isaiah. 43:6–7

Some Christians believe He created us because He loves us and wants a relationship with us, but that is not what the Bible teaches. Of course He does love us and wants a relationship with us, but that is not why we were created. All glory be to Him. His understanding is unsearchable (Isaiah 40).

I think we humans try to put our understanding of love and holiness on God, when we are sorely lacking in understanding. What say you?

Greetings from Michigan

Hello,

I am a 32 year old father with roots planted in west Michigan. I am intrigued by the thought of engaging with other believers, not to become more religious, but to help increase my relationship with Jesus. He is the author of my faith and has begun a good work in me.

When not chasing kiddos or working, I enjoy doing fun things with the family and exploring different dishes. My favorites at the moment are salmon bowls and Thai curry.

Although Trump asserts that Crime Rates are Going Up, the National Numbers Contradict Him


Christians should be looking at the actual numbers, in crime reports
from around the country. And NOT listening to emotional speeches about
skyrocketting crime rates, that come from political candidates or
radio talk show hosts.

Prayer for my health, I will be making a complete lifestyle change starting today

I will be going to a doctor soon, I have never all of a sudden felt severe unbearable pain. I think I have some kind of infection.

My diet has been poor lately, whatever has caused this I will do whatever I can to prevent this or anything else. I would do anything not to feel this unbearable pain again.

Please take care of your health everybody, the warning signs may not come until its too late.

Kindness to animals

When you see a small animal suffering what happens in your head and in your heart?

When you see a child helpless and uncared for what are you moved to do?


(Job 6:14 NRSV) 'Those who withhold kindness from a friend forsake the fear of the Almighty.

(Proverbs 21:21 NRSV) Whoever pursues righteousness and kindness will find life and honour.

(Micah 6:8 NRSV) He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the LORD require of you but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

A recent dream

My family & I moved to a new house last month. We're loving it so far but on 2 different occasions, we've had someone knock on our door past midnight. The second time it happened a few nights ago, we decided to call the police just in case they were around somewhere. They came & checked for us, & there was no sign of anyone.

I put it out of my mind both times that it happened, but last night I had a nightmare about it. It was about a guy in a red t-shirt with a screwdriver trying to get in from the front door. I haven't had a nightmare in months, so it honestly scared me when it happened. I wanted to calm down by doing some Bible reading, so I decided to read Matthew 24 (I've taken an interest in biblical prophecy). I was reading through, & I was shocked to see verse 43 which was said by Jesus Christ:

But understand this: If the owner of a house had known when the robber was coming, he would have watched. He would not have allowed his house to have been broken into. (KJV)

I just don't know what to make of it, if anything at all. I 100% could be crazy about this happening, & I'm open to that possibility. I'm just looking for any kind of clarity on this.

Thanks for reading, & any input.

Yeesh

Tim Walz praises Hitler loving antisemitic Imam as a "master teacher".

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I actually understand the upside of not putting your political views, platforms, policies out there....especially if Harris is unlikely to remember what they are on questioning...

The downside of course is that we are left to speculate what these two goofy stuffed suits believe.....and apparently, Walz is the fan of a Hitler fan-boy Muslim imam he regards as a "master teacher".

Yikes.

European Union trying to intimidate and stop the airing of the Musk/Trump interview under the guise of "Harmful Content"?

The Hill

EU sends warning letter to Musk ahead of Trump interview​

Story by Julia Shapero
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The European Union sent a warning letter to X owner Elon Musk on Monday reminding him of the bloc’s rules against promoting “harmful content” ahead of the billionaire tech mogul’s interview with former President Trump on the social platform.

Skynews clip at 1:20-2:00

Fully Mature Universe

Many Christians freely accept that Adam was created from dust, into a fully mature adult human male, yet stop short of accepting that God created a fully mature universe for him to exist in, which includes light from stars millions of light years away. A God that is so weak He has to adhere to the very "rules of nature" that He created, is unworthy of admiration in my estimation, and certainly not the God of the Bible. What say you?

House for rent

My nephew and wife are looking for a house to rent, they will look at one soon. Please pray they will find a home to rent soon for their family. I am praying the school district is good like the one their children have been going to. They don't want to move, but their landlord gave them a few months notice to move as he wants his relative to stay there. Thanks and God bless.

August 19, 2024: Update: they are hoping a house they want will be theirs (to rent) they will find out tomorrow. Praying it will be the one, Lord willing.

UAW claims illegal labor threats in X talk between Musk and Trump


The United Auto Workers has filed federal labor charges against Tesla Inc. CEO Elon Musk and Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump, the union said Tuesday.​
The complaints come after the two men had a two-hour-long conversation marred by technical difficulties the previous night on X, Musk's social media platform formerly known as Twitter. The union specifically cited comments from Trump during an exchange about government efficiency and spending of taxpayer dollars.​
"You're the greatest cutter," Trump said Monday, referencing Musk's history of eliminating staff across his businesses. "I mean, I look at what you do. You walk in, you just say, want to quit? They go on strike. I won't mention the name of the company, but they go on strike. And you say, that's OK. You're all gone. You're all gone. So every one of you is gone."​
The union noted in its statement that federal law prohibits workers from being fired for going on strike and that threatening to do so is illegal under the National Labor Relations Act.​
"The UAW has filed federal labor charges against disgraced billionaires Donald Trump and Elon Musk for their illegal attempts to threaten and intimidate workers who stand up for themselves by engaging in protected concerted activity, such as strikes," the union said in a statement issued by spokesperson Jonah Furman.​
I didn't see the UAW fired up with Biden. They are getting fired up now with Harris in campaigning against Trump.

Bidenomics after 41 Months: Six Charts the Media Don’t Want You to See


Liberal media are declaring Bidenomics a success – but, after three and a half years, hard numbers tell a much different story, regardless of whether the measure is how much Americans are paying, earning or saving.
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'Jibbering nonsense': Trump floats idea that Biden may 'crash' the DNC and take back nomination

Donald Trump on social media floated the idea that 'Crooked Joe Biden, the WORST President in the history of the U.S.' may try and crash the DNC and take back the nomination from Kamala Harris.
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He's getting more unhinged daily.

Mr Tump and Mr Musk set the world to rights.

Mr Trump and Mr Musk opine on various topical issues. Some have commented in a quite discourteous way that (for example) Mr Trump’s understanding of certain technical aspects of geometry is below the standard of grade schoolers.


Is this criticism valid?

New Here and Looking for a KJV 1611 Study Bible

Hi everyone. I am new to thesee forums. I am taking a look around. Briefly, I am in search of a KJV 1611 Study Bible. Not Scofield, but maybe something from Holman. I would like the study notes to be influenced/inspired by God rather than influenced by Rothschilds or Jesuits.

Additionally, I am also on the lookout for a KJV Study Bible without the Thees and Thous type old English you find in the 1611 KJV. I think that I saw something that came out around 1016, but for the New Testament only. I've been doing some digging around of some other versions translated from the Textus Receptus as well. I am kind of open on this if it is from the Textus Receptus.

Hackers have your SSN


I have received notifications from credit cards and credit karma about this.

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough says the American military, economy, and culture are stronger than ever and I have a few thoughts for him


From Joe, who said “Biden is far beyond cogent. He is better than he has EVER been intellectually, analytically. He is the best Biden ever."

Is predestination about the destination or about the path to it?

The debate between Protestants regarding predestination has persisted for nearly five centuries, with neither side conceding. Each believes they have scriptural backing. This dichotomy likely extends to Christian forums, where some argue for free will while others argue for the bondage of the will, each supported by numerous scriptural verses and interpretations. The question remains: Is it the final destination that is predestined, leaving the path open to free will choices, or is the path itself predestined, allowing no deviation by free will until the final destination is reached?
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'Smoke And Mirrors': Sheriff Blasts Kamala For Using His Image In Border Security Ad


I doubt anyone on the left will care, though.

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