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Tornados and Storms
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Searches for victims continue a day after tornadoes and storms strike the South, killing at least 9 | CNN
Recovery and search efforts continued in the South on Friday, a day after severe storms and tornadoes raked the region, killing at least nine people, blowing roofs off homes and cutting power for thousands.
This is scary. I don't get tornados where I live. But it makes me afraid to go on vocation, which I was planning on doing.
Have the locusts from Rev 9 already been loosed?
- By Derf
- Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum
- 198 Replies
I remember over 20 years ago reading the Left Behind series up until the Locusts of Rev 9 were discussed, and that's where I lost interest. I applaud LaHaye and Jenkins for holding to as strict a literal interpretation as possible, but for some reason it was too much in that instance.
Now I'm wondering if we've seen at least the beginning of the 1st Woe. I'll explain.
[Rev 9:1 KJV] And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Stars aren't "hims". This star must be a non-literal reference. This sets the stage for the rest of the passage to be non-literal.
[Rev 9:2 KJV] And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Smoke is often associated with judgment, probably because it affects more than the subjects of judgment. At the least it stings everyone's eyes where it reaches, and it reaches far into the air, vertically and horizontally.
[Rev 9:3 KJV] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
We immediately see that these are not normal locusts, but have to be compared with the power of scorpions. Imagine if it were described the other way, and scorpions were given wings and made to swarm as locusts. Ouch!
[Rev 9:4 KJV] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
The locusts don't even eat like normal locusts, but are only after the unbelievers. This is probably the hardest thing for my suggestion to fit.
[Rev 9:5 KJV] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
Why 5 months?
And what is the torment of a scorpion like?
Here's a description from emedicinehealth.com:
Severe signs and symptoms of a sting from a scorpion include numbness throughout the body, difficulty swallowing, a thick tongue, blurred vision, roving eye movements, seizures, salivation, and difficulty breathing.
[Rev 9:6 KJV] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Does this mean they can't even kill themselves? Or does it somehow allude to a condition where they are kept alive medically? Or something else?
[Rev 9:7 KJV] And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men.
Here's where I think it might apply to today. "Horses prepared into battle" seem to associate with military might and speed. "Crowns" suggest governmental authority. "Faces of men" may go with the next verse's "hair of women" to indicate something akin to the transgender movement, which is being pushed strongly in our military.
[Rev 9:8 KJV] And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions.
If the main point of these locusts is to wield the power of scorpions, why do they need "teeth of lions"? Because it indicates the authority of rulers.
[Rev 9:9 KJV] And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
"Breastplates of iron" mean they have been made impervious to attack, even possibly political or spiritual attack, while the sound of the wings like chariots and horses running to battle reiterates the speed and power of military action and enforcement.
[Rev 9:10 KJV] And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months.
[Rev 9:11 KJV] And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.
The main thing these creatures try to accomplish is the name of their leader, "destruction".
So here's my theory--the last few years are the time period spoken of. The stings are the covid vaccine, which is said to give immunity, but only for a short time before needing a booster (about 5 months, perhaps). Our military is one of the driving forced of the vaccine, along with the government. The same military and government has been pushing the transgender garbage, whose poster boy is "Rachel" Levine (man's face, woman's hair).
The same government was of no use against the Antifa and BLM riots, but allowed them to perpetrate their destruction.
The scorpion sting symptoms are reminiscent of either Covid or the vaccine (myocarditis, blood clots, strokes, and general loss of immunity to many diseases). Mostly people aren't dying from the vaccine, though some are, and the supposed purpose is to keep people from dying. Many who are refusing to take the vaccine are believers (which may account for the text that says the believers are sealed against the locusts).
What do you think?
Now I'm wondering if we've seen at least the beginning of the 1st Woe. I'll explain.
[Rev 9:1 KJV] And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Stars aren't "hims". This star must be a non-literal reference. This sets the stage for the rest of the passage to be non-literal.
[Rev 9:2 KJV] And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
Smoke is often associated with judgment, probably because it affects more than the subjects of judgment. At the least it stings everyone's eyes where it reaches, and it reaches far into the air, vertically and horizontally.
[Rev 9:3 KJV] And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
We immediately see that these are not normal locusts, but have to be compared with the power of scorpions. Imagine if it were described the other way, and scorpions were given wings and made to swarm as locusts. Ouch!
[Rev 9:4 KJV] And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
The locusts don't even eat like normal locusts, but are only after the unbelievers. This is probably the hardest thing for my suggestion to fit.
[Rev 9:5 KJV] And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
Why 5 months?
And what is the torment of a scorpion like?
Here's a description from emedicinehealth.com:
Severe signs and symptoms of a sting from a scorpion include numbness throughout the body, difficulty swallowing, a thick tongue, blurred vision, roving eye movements, seizures, salivation, and difficulty breathing.
[Rev 9:6 KJV] And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Does this mean they can't even kill themselves? Or does it somehow allude to a condition where they are kept alive medically? Or something else?
[Rev 9:7 KJV] And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men.
Here's where I think it might apply to today. "Horses prepared into battle" seem to associate with military might and speed. "Crowns" suggest governmental authority. "Faces of men" may go with the next verse's "hair of women" to indicate something akin to the transgender movement, which is being pushed strongly in our military.
[Rev 9:8 KJV] And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions.
If the main point of these locusts is to wield the power of scorpions, why do they need "teeth of lions"? Because it indicates the authority of rulers.
[Rev 9:9 KJV] And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle.
"Breastplates of iron" mean they have been made impervious to attack, even possibly political or spiritual attack, while the sound of the wings like chariots and horses running to battle reiterates the speed and power of military action and enforcement.
[Rev 9:10 KJV] And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months.
[Rev 9:11 KJV] And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon.
The main thing these creatures try to accomplish is the name of their leader, "destruction".
So here's my theory--the last few years are the time period spoken of. The stings are the covid vaccine, which is said to give immunity, but only for a short time before needing a booster (about 5 months, perhaps). Our military is one of the driving forced of the vaccine, along with the government. The same military and government has been pushing the transgender garbage, whose poster boy is "Rachel" Levine (man's face, woman's hair).
The same government was of no use against the Antifa and BLM riots, but allowed them to perpetrate their destruction.
The scorpion sting symptoms are reminiscent of either Covid or the vaccine (myocarditis, blood clots, strokes, and general loss of immunity to many diseases). Mostly people aren't dying from the vaccine, though some are, and the supposed purpose is to keep people from dying. Many who are refusing to take the vaccine are believers (which may account for the text that says the believers are sealed against the locusts).
What do you think?
‘Tons’ of food gets tossed daily by NYC hotel because migrants won’t eat it
- By Valletta
- News & Current Events (Articles Required)
- 28 Replies
‘Tons’ of food gets tossed daily by NYC hotel because migrants won’t eat it
Disturbing photos show garbage bags full of sandwiches and bagels awaiting disposal at the four-star Row NYC hotel near Times Square where migrants are being housed.
nypost.com
Record Cold: So Which is politically correct? Global Warming? or Climate CHANGE?
- By BobRyan
- General Politics
- 51 Replies
It appears to me that while the one constant over the ages is "change" --- the new buzzword changed from "Global warming" - to "Climate CHANGE". So now we fear the one constant that CAN be proven?? the constant CHANGE?
Maybe there is a good reason for the "Change in tactics". Maybe the weather is not cooperating with "Global warming" predictions.
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from: The Grand Solar Minimum will devastate Earth until 2070 - Strange Sounds
"A periodic solar event called a “Grand Solar Minimum” has started in 2020 and will probably last until 2050.
Grand Solar Minimum
"During this period, the sun’s magnetic field is weak, allowing extra cosmic rays into the solar system. All in all, we will enter a cooler time period… And this cold spell may last up to 50 years…
During a solar minimum, and particularly, a Grand Solar Minimum, more cosmic rays (CRs) enter Earth’s atmosphere.
These particles act as cloud nuclei by ionization and propagate low level cloud formation.
Some cosmic rays may reach the Earth’s surface and even penetrate it, increasing the intensity and numbers of:
During the Little Ice Age, temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere declined by only 0.6°C (1.1°F) relative to the average temperature between 1000 and 2000 CE, but brutal frost and snow events led to devastating crop failures.
A Grand Solar Minimum occurs approximately every 200 years. The last notable event was the Dalton Minimum c. 1790 – 1820, which was followed by the end of the Little Ice Age, the 2nd Industrial Revolution, unprecedented demographic increase and the beginning of the modern global warming trend (which began c. 1850 and lasted until c. 2000).
Maybe there is a good reason for the "Change in tactics". Maybe the weather is not cooperating with "Global warming" predictions.
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from: The Grand Solar Minimum will devastate Earth until 2070 - Strange Sounds
"A periodic solar event called a “Grand Solar Minimum” has started in 2020 and will probably last until 2050.
Grand Solar Minimum
"During this period, the sun’s magnetic field is weak, allowing extra cosmic rays into the solar system. All in all, we will enter a cooler time period… And this cold spell may last up to 50 years…
During a solar minimum, and particularly, a Grand Solar Minimum, more cosmic rays (CRs) enter Earth’s atmosphere.
These particles act as cloud nuclei by ionization and propagate low level cloud formation.
Some cosmic rays may reach the Earth’s surface and even penetrate it, increasing the intensity and numbers of:
- Storm, hurricane, cyclone, typhoon,
- Downpours,
- Snowstorms and blizzards,
- Tornadoes,
- Hail,
- Flooding and flash floods,
- Global cooling,
- Earthquakes,
- Volcanoes,
- Lightning, other lightning events
- Unprecedented solar flares
During the Little Ice Age, temperatures across the Northern Hemisphere declined by only 0.6°C (1.1°F) relative to the average temperature between 1000 and 2000 CE, but brutal frost and snow events led to devastating crop failures.
A Grand Solar Minimum occurs approximately every 200 years. The last notable event was the Dalton Minimum c. 1790 – 1820, which was followed by the end of the Little Ice Age, the 2nd Industrial Revolution, unprecedented demographic increase and the beginning of the modern global warming trend (which began c. 1850 and lasted until c. 2000).
7-Year-Old La. Girl Is Mauled to Death by Pit Bull While Playing Outside
- By ThatRobGuy
'Fearless' 7-Year-Old La. Girl Is Mauled to Death by Pit Bull While Playing Outside
Sadie Davila, 7, sustained "numerous dog bites to her face and substantial damage to her skull," authorities said
'A tragedy for everybody:' Coroner details death of 1st grader mauled by pit bull
While family members, classmates, schoolteachers and other loved ones mourned the loss of Sadie Davila, the owner of the pit bull terrier that killed the 7-year-old battled to get out
Some quick stats:
The infographic shows that the Pit Bull is still responsible for the most fatal attacks in the U.S. by far, killing 284 people over that 13-year period - 66 percent of total fatalities. That's despite the breed accounting for just 6.5% of the total U.S. dog population.
Is it time for more localities to start following the example of the cities that have already either banned (or put strict ownership requirements and rules in place for) owning this specific breed?
