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"Nicodemus" was a Greek name

John 3:
1Now there was a man of the Pharisees named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews.
Strong's Greek: 3530. Νικόδημος (Nikodémos) — 5 Occurrences

"Nicodemus" was a Greek name, Thayer's Greek Lexicon:
Νικόδημος (νίκη and δῆμος (i. e. 'conqueror of the people')).
In fact, the English word Nike is from the Greek Νίκη (Níkē), from νίκη (níkē, “victory”).

Peter's Hebrew name was Simon. The Bible does not mention Nicodemus' Hebrew name. Paul was a Pharisee and we know his Hebrew name was Saul.

When John saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to WHERE he was baptizing

NIV Matthew 3:
7 But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to where he was baptizing, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the coming wrath?
Actually the word "where" is not in the original Greek.

English Standard Version:
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming to his baptism,
ἐπὶ αὐτοῦ βάπτισμα
he said to them, “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

New American Standard Bible:
But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming for baptism, he said to them, “You offspring of vipers, who warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

It seems that the Pharisees and Sadducees visited John desiring to be baptized by him.

Pulpit Commentary
The Gospel according to the Hebrews (Resch, 'Agrapha.' p. 343) says that they were in fact baptized, but we can hardly suppose this to have been the case after John's words to them. Observe that the Pharisees, with their self-conscious sanctity, were hardly likely to come to confess their sins, or the Sadducees to even listen to so ascetic a teacher.

Ellicott explained:
It is not easy to enter into the motives which led either of the sects to come to the baptism of John. It may be that they were carried away for a time by the enthusiasm of the people, or sought to guide the movement by controlling it, or to enlist the new teacher on this side or that. Anyhow, there was no repentance, and no confession, and so the Baptist met them with a stern reproof.

The Pharisees and Sadducees wanted to be baptized but John might not have baptized them. Matthew 3:
11a “I baptize you with water for repentance."

No repentance, no baptism.

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PSALM 130
诗篇130
Psalm 130King James Version (KJV)
诗篇130(KJV版本)
Out of the depths have I cried unto thee, O Lord.
耶和华啊,我从深处向你求告。
2 Lord, hear my voice: let thine ears be attentive to the voice of my supplications.
主啊,求你听我的声音,愿你侧耳听我恳求的声音。
3 If thou, Lord, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?
主耶和华啊,你若究察罪孽,谁能站得住呢?
4 But there is forgiveness with thee, that thou mayest be feared.
但在你有赦免之恩,要叫人敬畏你。
5 I wait for the Lord, my soul doth wait, and in his word do I hope.
我等候耶和华,我的心等候,我也仰望他的话。
6 My soul waiteth for the Lord more than they that watch for the morning: I say, more than they that watch for the morning.
我的心等候主,胜于守夜的等候天亮,胜于守夜的等候天亮。
7 Let Israel hope in the Lord: for with the Lord there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
以色列啊,你当仰望耶和华,因他有慈爱,有丰盛的救恩。
8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.
他必救赎以色列脱离一切的罪孽。
WORSHIP WHILST WAITING
等待时敬拜
There are so many words we speak every day, but some are more special than others.
Prayer is often seen as us talking to God and this is so true, but it is a two-way communication.One of the things that all of us hate doing, is to be kept waiting, in the bank, at the supermarket checkout, please hurry up is the cry.
So often we despise these times, you know these people were going to the temple to offer their sacrifices, they were probably in a long line of people waiting patiently. The times of waiting in your life are probably the most precious, the waiting times are not desolate they should be the times when God is most precious to us, it is in these times that God alone satisfies
It is not a time of silence, it is a time of worship, a time a rejoicing and a time of sweet fellowship with God.
We can cry out to God vs 1
We can praise God for all his mercies to us, for all his gracious forgiveness to us.
Next time You are kept waiting, don't complain, WORSHIP
我们每天讲许多话,有些话更特别,祷告通常看起来就像我们与神讲话,事实的确如此。但这是一种双向沟通。我们都厌恶做的一件事,就是持续等候。在银行,在超市结账处,经常喊着请快点,我们常常瞧不起这些时候。你知道这些人会去圣殿献祭,他们或许要排长长的队伍耐心等待。你的生命中等待的时间或许是最珍贵的,等待时间并不是孤独凄凉的,他们应当是神最珍惜我们的时候,这些时候并不是沉默的时候,而是神单单满足我们的时候,这是敬拜时光,喜乐时光,与神甜蜜相伴的时光。我们可以向神呼求,可以为他对我们的一切怜悯,为他给予我们的原谅和恩典,而赞美他。下次你要持续等候,不要抱怨。要敬拜。






MATTHEW 10
马太福音10
32 Whosoever, therefore, shall confess Me before men, him will I confess also before My Father which is in heaven.
“凡在人面前认我的,我在我天上的父面前也必认他;

33 But whosoever shall deny Me before men, him will I also deny before My Father which is in heaven.
凡在人面前不认我的,我在我天上的父面前也必不认他。”

CONFESSING JESUS
承认耶稣

Does this mean that we can lose our Salvation? NO
这意味着我们会失去救恩吗?不
As with everything in scripture, we cannot take one verse in isolation.
和经文中每件事一样,我们不能孤立地看一节经文。

I was thinking very deeply about this and was led to Romans 10:9-10 that reads as follows:
对此我深入地思考过,让我们读罗马书 10:9-10,经文如下,

9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
你若口里认耶稣为主,心里信神叫他从死里复活,就必得救。
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation.
因为人心里相信,就可以称义;口里承认,就可以得救。

The confession of sin and acknowledging the Lordship of Jesus Christ and who Christ is, is linked to believing in your heart. Salvation is the coming together of inward belief and outward confession.
承认罪,认耶稣基督为主,圣灵就依着信与我们相连。救恩随同内在信仰和外部承认一起到来。

Every time we fail, like Peter, every time we deny Christ and fail to share Him, Jesus accepts us before His Father; he is praying for us.
每次我们像彼得一样失败,每次我们否认基督,不与别人分享他,耶稣都在父神面前接纳我们,他在为我们祷告。


In 1 Corinthians 12, we read these words.
在哥林多前书12章,我们读到这些话。

3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus says is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
所以我告诉你们:被神的灵感动的,没有说耶稣是可咒诅的;若不是被圣灵感动的,也没有能说耶稣是主的。

To honestly confess Christ is to speak words inspired by the Holy Spirit... the natural man cannot say these words, only the spiritual man can.
诚实地认基督就是讲述被圣灵所鼓舞的话...普通人不会讲说这些话语,只有圣灵充满之人才会。

In Verses 29-31, Jesus is stating that we are so much more valuable than anything else on the planet. That is the context of these verses, and afterward, in verses 34-36, Jesus is saying that he has come to disrupt/divide families, not to bring families together. Some families are all Christians, and we bless God for that, but for many, including myself and Helen, we are the only Christians in them. That costs us, but when we confess Jesus, He reveals us to His Father, at the point of Salvation, when we say, Jesus, You are mine. He says to His Father, this one is Mine, and Father, he is Yours. He/she has come and confessed to Me, and I have decided to show unto this world that he is Mine, and now I have the pleasure of confessing He/she before you.
在29-31节中,耶稣说我们比这世上其他人和事更加珍贵。之后在34-36节,耶稣说他来会使家庭纷争/分裂,而不是使家庭和睦。一些家庭成员都是基督徒,我们因神为他们祝福,但许多家庭,包括我自己和海伦,我们是家庭中仅有的基督徒。那让我们感到很累,但当我们承认耶稣时,他在父跟前证明我们,在救恩到来时,当我们说,耶稣你是我的,他会对父神说,这位是我的,父啊,他是你的。他/她已经来了,承认了我,我已经决定向世界显示他是我的,如今我很乐意在你面前承认他/她。

What a wonderful honour!
多么美妙的荣誉!
God bless you.
愿神祝福你








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Pastor Zheng Yuan


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三一基督教長老會

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Death

Day folds into day, week into week, and year into year until out tale of years ends and we die. But what does it mean to die?

Do we just stop, cease being, become non-existent? Or is there something that remains - persists despite the dissolution of our integrated physical and mental being? If so, what is it and how does it subsist?
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Shunning

Wikipedia says ...
Shunning can be the act of social rejection, or emotional distance. In a religious context, shunning is a formal decision by a denomination or a congregation to cease interaction with an individual or a group, and follows a particular set of rules. It differs from, but may be associated with, excommunication.​
Social rejection occurs when a person or group deliberately avoids association with, and habitually keeps away from an individual or group. This can be a formal decision by a group, or a less formal group action which will spread to all members of the group as a form of solidarity. It is a sanction against association, often associated with religious groups and other tightly knit organizations and communities. Targets of shunning can include persons who have been labeled as apostates, whistleblowers, dissidents, strikebreakers, or anyone the group perceives as a threat or source of conflict. Social rejection has been established to cause psychological damage and has been categorized as torture[1] or punishment.[2] Mental rejection is a more individual action, where a person subconsciously or willfully ignores an idea, or a set of information related to a particular viewpoint. Some groups are made up of people who shun the same ideas.[3]
Social rejection was and is a punishment in many customary legal systems. Such sanctions include the ostracism of ancient Athens and the still-used kasepekang in Balinese society.​
Shunning is not the same thing as excommunication.

Fire proof trees in Maui

We could use these types of trees here in OZ where bush fires are always a threat.
Check out this short vid , which shows cars , buildings etc all burnt , and yet among the destruction there are green trees still standing , lot's of them , amazing!!

Maui Fires | Where Can We Buy Some of Those Fireproof Trees They Have In Maui? | Revelation 9:3-4 - READ - "And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree."
:scratch:
Anyway there are people saying that the gov is using some kind of microwave type weapon to do this , and that Maui was not the first.

Where the spiritual catastrophe began. GoGo Masses of the 60s and 70s.

The GoGo Mass of the 1960s and 1970s: religious, musical and festive celebrations







Les Alléluias performing in Saguenay in 1965.

The revolution in the Catholic Church brought about by the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council (Vatican II) was reflected in the emergence in Quebec, among other places, of "GoGo masses", or rhythmic masses. So popular were these ceremonies that they gave rise to a veritable musical genre, which the Quebec industry has seized upon. Sébastien Desrosiers, music editor and blogger specializing in Quebec's heritage, recounts and explains this epoch-making phenomenon.

In Quebec, some priests didn't wait for the end of Vatican II. As early as 1958, Father Bernard, nicknamed le ménestrel du Bon Dieu, sang the word of Christ on his first record. Father Bernard was inspired by Félix Leclerc, who invited him to open his shows in France in 1959.

Christian rock

Between 1961 and 1965, the group Les Alléluias, led by Bernard Tremblay, united seminarians from the Pères rédemptoristes scholasticate in Aylmer-Est, Outaouais. They released three singles, which met with considerable success. In 1964 and 1965, a tour took them to Saguenay-Lac-Saint-Jean and the Montreal region. At the same time, Les Alléluias recorded at the Maison de Radio-Canada studios in Montreal. The album is a great success.

The first GoGo Masses were held in the spring of 1965, and the movement quickly took off, spreading to churches and records.

A studio in a church

In the 1960s and 1970s, the Cap-de-la-Madeleine sanctuary near Trois-Rivières became the production center for Quebec religious pop. In 1947, the Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate inaugurated the Radio-Marie station and studio, which remained in operation until 1979. In 1959, Radio-Marie produces its first muse, Oblate singer and guitarist Jacqueline Lemay. She scored a hit with singles and her first album in 1962.

In 1967, the Radio-Marie record company recruited a young artistic director, Father André Dumont, who was already a songwriter. He developed the Jerusalem collection, a series of recordings created to capitalize on the mass craze.








A Christian rock opera

Continued below.
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The Lord's Day of Wrath

THE LORDS WRATH – how will it happen?
This much prophesied, still to come, Lords Day of vengeance and wrath – will happen at the same time as an attack against Israel. Psalms 7:12-16, Psalms 83, Micah 4:11-12 People think there may be a nuclear exchange, but what is more certain is what the prophets say:

Jeremiah 50:25 The Lord opens His armoury and brings forth the weapons of His wrath, for this is His work to be done in the lands of the godless peoples.
Isaiah 34:5 For My sword appears in heaven, it descends in judgement.
Psalm 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven, raining fiery coals onto the wicked.
Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, like a whirlwind. He will judge with fire, His sword will test mankind and many will be slain by Him.
Isaiah 33:10-12 Now I shall arise, says the Lord, I will exalt Myself. You will be as chaff and stubble, a wind like fire will consume you. Whole nations will be heaps of white ash, like thorns cut down and set on fire.
Psalm 144:5-6 Lord, part the heavens. Make lightning flashes far and wide.
Isaiah 30:30 Then the Lord will make His voice heard in majesty...descending in fierce anger with devouring flames of fire amid storms and hail.
Jeremiah 30:23-24 See what a scorching wind has gone out from God, a sweeping whirlwind which whirls around the heads of the wicked. The Lords fierce anger is not to be turned aside until He has fully accomplished His purposes. In Days to come you will understand.
Isaiah 29:5-6 Yet, the horde of Your enemies will crumble into dust, fly away like chaff. Suddenly in an instant punishment will come from the Lord, with storms, thunder, earthquakes and great noise and a flame of devouring fire.
Isaiah 9:19 The land is scorched by the Lord, the people are like fuel for the fire.
Isaiah 10:17 The Light of Israel will become a fire, its Holy One a flame, which, in one day will burn up and consume His thorns and briars.
Isaiah 30:26-30 On the Day that the Lord saves His people, the sun will shine with seven times its usual brightness and the moon will be as bright as the sun.
See; the Lord comes from afar, His anger blazing and His doom heavy. His lips are charged with wrath and His tongue is a devouring fire. His breath is like a torrent in spate. He sieves out the nations for destruction.
Isaiah 63:1-6

What these (and many other) prophecies, seem to be describing is sunspot activity.
Maybe the sun is building up to a huge Coronal Mass Ejection, something we do experience with minor CME’s. They happen very suddenly and unexpectedly, reaching earth within hours and are capable of causing enormous damage and deaths worldwide.
All electrical and communications systems, industry, transport; our modern infrastructure could be destroyed, or at least severely damaged. Armies would be back to 1800’s technology.

A CME explosion of the suns surface, as described in Isaiah 30:26, with the sun flashing 7 times brighter, would be one of unprecedented magnitude and would literally cause all the graphically prophesied effects. For example; the moon would shine bright red as it reflects this sun explosion and our satellites would crash to the earth, like ripe figs falling.

A Third of the World on Fire?

I was going over the "apocalyptic" fires in Hawaii with a friend when he said that he had heard that on CNN a week or so ago that a third of the world was literally on fire, has anyone seen that.

Maui wildfires live updates: Deadliest natural disaster since Hawaii's statehood

53 people have died from the Maui wildfires, governor says, and historic Lahaina has burned down

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/10/us/maui-wildfires-hurricane-dora-thursday/index.html

We saw what was happening in Canada a few weeks ago, to say nothing of Europe and Asia..





Are we seeing some of the signs of the Revelation 8 prophecy?
The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up. (Revelation 8:7 - KJV)


I had posted some time ago on the fires of Australia, which were also being called 'apocalyptic' by the news then. The signs of the times were being recognized it seems, even by them.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50951043f

2019-2020 Australian Bushfires - Center for Disaster Philanthropy

https://www.npr.org/2020/01/10/795169417/enormous-mega-fire-in-australia-engulfs-1-5-million-acres

Why These Australia Fires Are Like Nothing We’ve Seen Before (Published 2020)

Too say nothing of the fires in California that were burning I think it was last year or the year before and I had to call my brother to see if he was ok, and he was under smoke in Oregon.

What’s Behind California’s Surge of Large Fires?

California’s 2020 Wildfire Season

Excommunication

Wikipedia says ...
Excommunication is an institutional act of religious censure used to deprive, suspend, or limit membership in a religious community or to restrict certain rights within it, in particular those of being in communion with other members of the congregation, and of receiving the sacraments.​
It is practiced by all of the ancient churches (such as the Catholic Church, Oriental Orthodox churches and the Eastern Orthodox churches) as well as by other Christian denominations, but it is also used more generally to refer to similar types of institutional religious exclusionary practices and shunning among other religious groups. The Amish have also been known to excommunicate members that were either seen or known for breaking rules, or questioning the church, a practice known as shunning. Jehovah's Witnesses use the term disfellowship to refer to their form of excommunication.​
The word excommunication means putting a specific individual or group out of communion. In some denominations, excommunication includes spiritual condemnation of the member or group. Excommunication may involve banishment, shunning, and shaming, depending on the group, the offense that caused excommunication, or the rules or norms of the religious community. The grave act is often revoked in response to manifest repentance.​

The glossary at the back of the Catechism of the Catholic Church says ...
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Pray for my potential scammer

If these men were legit, I gave enough money to get one guy to see his dying daughter in the hospital, and another enough to keep the lights on in his house, this protecting him from losing custody of his children.

If legit, I ask for prayers that the one man see his daughter in time, and the other may have a wonderful life with his children.

If they were not legit, I pray for their souls...

Thank you.


I've heard of far greater sinners being converted by great amounts of prayer. Please, for the good of those who may have wronged me, for the good of those who made me feel used & drained & chucked aside.....pray for them. Pray.

Assent to Truth, Brothers and Sisters In Christ.

Jesus loves you, this I know. Assent to truth. Do what is meaningful. Build yourself towards who God is calling you to be. Value people and build relationships. Add value in all you do. Be disciplined with the resources with which you have been richly blessed. Humble yourself before the cross for all the ways you stumble.

Democracy is the worst form of government...

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

I've been thinking about this for quite some time (probably a lot more since the Brexit vote). There must surely be a way to improve the way we decide the major decisions that are needed to be made. Surely it's impossible to argue that what we have now is actually the best we can expect. As Winston also said:

'The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter'.

Somebody please cheer me up and tell me we can expect something better.
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Hello fellow Christians

Hello fellow Christians. I am Alex, a Christian guy with autism who is new to the forums. God's creation, our world and science fascinate me, as everything is interconnected and study of His creation align with God and the Bible.

- Alex B.

Follow the Law? Ok, then but WHICH laws in the Torah?

Hi, I'm investigating whether or not what the Messianics believe is true.

I have a question. For Messianics and those who keep the Law, following the Torah is very important. However, on 119 Ministries' website, David Wilber's website, Lion and Lamb Ministeries' website and Passion For Truth's website, there is no list saying which of the 613 commandments we need to follow and which ones we don't need to follow.

Obviously we don't keep the ceremonial laws because Jesus is our ultimate sacrifice. Plus I understand some laws are for farmers, women etc. But if we are supposed to follow the laws applicable to us, how do we know which ones to keep?!

I think it's absolute bonkers.

Thanks for reading.

How old was Jacob when he first saw Rachel?

Joseph revealed the meaning of Pharaoh's dream in Genesis 41:
28 “It is just as I said to Pharaoh: God has shown Pharaoh what he is about to do. 29 Seven years of great abundance are coming throughout the land of Egypt, 30but seven years of famine will follow them.
46a Joseph was thirty years old when he entered the service of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Genesis 45:
4b “I am Joseph, your brother,” he said, “the one you sold into Egypt! 5And now, do not be distressed or angry with yourselves that you sold me into this place, because it was to save lives that God sent me before you. 6For the famine has covered the land these two years, and there will be five more years without plowing or harvesting.
Joseph was 30 years old when he first spoke to Pharoah. Since then, 7 years of abundance + 2 years of the beginning phase of famine had passed. When Joseph revealed his identity to his brothers, he was 39 years old.

Their brother returned to Canaan and brought Jacob to Egpyt, Genesis 47:9a
And Jacob said to Pharaoh, “The years of my pilgrimage are a hundred and thirty.
Jacob was 91 (130 - 39) when Joseph was born. There is an uncertainty of how much time had elapsed between Genesis 45:4b to Genesis 47:9a. It was probably a matter of months. I'll express as y1 year, y1<1.

Genesis 29:
18 Jacob was in love with Rachel and said, “I’ll work for you seven years in return for your younger daughter Rachel.”
30 Jacob made love to Rachel also, and his love for Rachel was greater than his love for Leah. And he worked for Laban another seven years.
Jacob worked for Laban for 14 years for his two daughters. Joseph was born around the end of this 14 years period.

Genesis 30:
22Then God remembered Rachel; he listened to her and enabled her to conceive. 23She became pregnant and gave birth to a son and said, “God has taken away my disgrace.” 24 She named him Joseph, and said, “May the Lord add to me another son.”
25 After Rachel gave birth to Joseph, Jacob said to Laban, “Send me on my way so I can go back to my own homeland.
Jacob's agreement of 14 years with Laban must have expired at this point. There is another uncertainty beyond this second 7-year period. Let's say that Joseph was born y2 years after the 14-year contract with Laban.

Genesis 31:
25Now Jacob had pitched his tent in the hill country of Gilead when Laban overtook him, and Laban and his relatives camped there as well. ...
38I have been with you for twenty years now. Your sheep and goats have not miscarried, nor have I eaten the rams of your flock.
y2 < 20−14=6

Jacob was 77 (91 − 14) when he first met Laban and Rachel, assuming y1=0 and y2=0.

Adjusting for the two uncertainties, assuming y1+y2=3, I'd say that Jacob was 77±3 years old when he first saw Rachel.

Wiki:
Arriving in Haran, Jacob saw a well where shepherds were gathering their flocks to water them and met Laban's younger daughter, Rachel, Jacob's first cousin; she was working as a shepherdess. Jacob was 77 years old,[22] and he loved Rachel immediately.

Is the second coming of Christ near?

The generation that sees the return of Israel to her homeland will not pass before all things (including Christ’s return) shall come to pass.
  • Matthew 24:34
  • Mark 13:30
  • Luke 21:32
Speaking prophetically of Israel as the fig tree (Hosea 9:10) in each of the above passages (which Jesus cursed for fruitless unbelief) being restored to produce leaves (and not fruit, I might add) means the Jewish people will return to the holy land but in a state of non-spirituality. Ezekiel 37 also prophesies to this regathering as the breathless dry bones and the joined two sticks. All the eventual outcome from the 2520 year diaspora begun in 586 BCE…

Israel was never united or under its own sovereign reign since then… until 1948 CE. But even then not in a spiritual state. That’s been nearly 100 years. Most agree a biblical generation can be between 70 to 100 years.

To date, it’s been 75 years actually. By the coincidental 200 + year advancement of globalism (reference Eustace Mullins’ book Secrets of the Federal Reserve / revisited by Dr. J.R. Church of Prophecy in the News ministry in a broadcast series on the Watchman on the Wall Radio broadcast of the Southwest Radio Church circa 1994) the stage is being set for the beast of Revelation 13 to take over the world.

He will plow with the LORD’s heifer (John 5:43 / Daniel 9:27) feigning to be the promised Messiah the Jews who reject Jesus are still looking for. In a relatively short order he will win their trust by building the third temple and invoking what appears to be a global peace (Jeremiah 6:14, Jeremiah 8:11). And when he reneges on that covenant with Israel (Daniel 9:27 / Zechariah 5:5–11) the Jews will become the refuseniks the Christians had been.

Let me back up a step. When the beast appears on the world scene, he will oppose Christ and all who believe in him with a vengeance. This will be a persecution of Christians like never before (Revelation 12:17 - Revelation 13:18). The pre-wrath rapture is only pre-God’s-wrath… the devil’s wrath has been raging against the Church for 1900 + years. And in the first half of the 70th Week of Daniel (Daniel 9:24–27) that wrath of the evil one will come to a head where believers are hunted down (by the tracking system 666) to be executed. The rapture, when it occurs mind 70th Week of Daniel, will be of very few survivors so deep in hiding that their sudden absence will go unnoticed by the world.

When the beast reneges on his covenant with the Jewish people and puts an end to Temple sacrifice to revert to his Jerusalem (Babylon) originally built by his Moses (Nimrod), the Jews will realize they’d been had. They will balk and this is why the 200 million man army will be encamped at Armageddon to utterly destroy them. It is at that time they will finally (at long last) cry out to Jesus to be saved from this annihilation. ← sadly, as a last resort for nothing else will have worked… the poison of the leaven of the Pharisees have infected their beliefs about Jesus for 1900 + years…

And Jesus will come (Jude 14 / Matthew 23:37–39 / Zechariah 14:10):

Revelation 14:19–20 (KJV)

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Jesus made it clear in Matthew 23:37–39 that his return would be to rescue the Jewish people quoting the latter half of:

Psalm 118:25–26 (KJV)

25 Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.

26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

Save now (hosha nah = hosanna) YeHOSHua HaMoshiakh (Jesus the Christ).

This outcry of the Jewish people is the very purpose for allowing the tribulation and great tribulation.

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Christians who are still under the law of sin

It is strange that so many Christians have this fixation on sinful acts, especially bodily sin, considering that our sins are forgiven through faith in Jesus Christ. We are forgiven as long as we remain aware of our sinful nature, knowing that we are bound to go wrong now and then. Ruth Page explains that constant preoccupation with one's sins is equal to inverted egocentricity. It could produce psychological disaster. She criticizes the "traditional and still valid conception of sin as consuming preoccupation with oneself. The difficulty in the traditional view is that this egocentricity was called 'self-love', and the recommended alternative was self-denial or even self-hatred" (Ambiguity and the presence of God, 1985, p. 182). But one cannot love others unless one loves oneself, which is Erich Fromm's conclusion also. She continues:

Selfish people cannot love—either themselves or others. Loving oneself does not mean being lost in admiration at one's own qualities and goodness and thus oblivious to all else. That indeed would be as narcissistic as the constant search for one's sins. Instead of that, loving oneself means the recognition of the human being one is, with all one's potentialities, with the result that 'respect for one's own integrity and uniqueness, love for and understanding of one's own self cannot be separated from respect and love and understanding for another individual'.​
[...]​
But sin does not remove the relationship, for it is God’s nature always and everywhere to relate. We do not ‘clear the way’ to God, as it were, by our repentance and confession, but in our repentance we find his forgiveness already there, waiting for us. When we open ourselves to any experience we find God already there, prevenient in it, and this is true of remorse and admission of failure also. We still have to live with the consequence of our actions, but there is no need for an accumulation of guilt to corrode our capacity to respond, since we are forgiven. (ibid., pp. 183-86)​

It is remarkable that the Christian message is so hard to understand. It has gone 2,000 years, and people still don't get it. People are still under the law of sin.
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