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I'm pro gun and im fully vaccinated. But I'm still worried about the vaccine. Who knows what the long term effects are.
Well ... it's been a year. There's about a year to go to disprove this theory ...A Nobel prize winning virologist predicts mass deaths within 2 years among those vaxxed.
The most cursory look at the UK death rates from COVID ... show deaths to be down from a year ago. Certainly not the claimed 3,000% increase.UK hospital data shocks the world: 80% of COVID deaths are among the vaccinated… COVID deaths up 3,000% after vaccine wave
If you stop checking the facts, ... it becomes impossible to distinguish true claims from those that are false.Fact checking stopped being anything other than propaganda, years ago.
Well ... it's been a year. There's about a year to go to disprove this theory ...
So far I have yet to see anyone suggest a plausible mechanism for the vaccine causing any negative long-term effects, when "long-term" is defined as over a year later.
Should take less time than that. Tens of thousands of people got the vaccine as part of a trial last summer. By next summer it will have been 2 years for them. If anyone thinks that the trial participants (the ones that got the vaccine, not the placebo) aren't being tracked for long term effects, they just don't understand the regulatory process.
My guess: When hundreds of the experimental cohort don't fall dead by the end of next summer, it will become "within 5 years", even though no claim of long-term vaccine harm that is even *close* to being supported by data involves mass death.
Should take less time than that. Tens of thousands of people got the vaccine as part of a trial last summer. By next summer it will have been 2 years for them. If anyone thinks that the trial participants (the ones that got the vaccine, not the placebo) aren't being tracked for long term effects, they just don't understand the regulatory process.
My guess: When hundreds of the experimental cohort don't fall dead by the end of next summer, it will become "within 5 years", even though no claim of long-term vaccine harm that is even *close* to being supported by data involves mass death.
I traced it back to PHE and found this:Once upon a time, in 2002, there was the SARS-CoV-1 virus, for which they developed a vaccine.
Animals given the vaccine developed a robust antibody response, which is what they wanted.
But when the animals were exposed to the live virus, they all died from the pathogenic priming effect, so they discarded the vaccine.
Fast forward to 2019 and the SARS-CoV-2 virus, in which vaccines were developed in a rush and released as experimental vaccines - and guess what essential step was skipped? Animal trials.
A Nobel prize winning virologist predicts mass deaths within 2 years among those vaxxed.
The UK recently released a report showing that most COVID deaths are among the vaccinated.
One of many reports on UK COVID deaths:
UK hospital data shocks the world: 80% of COVID deaths are among the vaccinated… COVID deaths up 3,000% after vaccine wave
That indicates that the vaccine still offers significant protection against the virus. England has a vaccination rate of 88%. That means if the vaccine did not work that that the vaccinated would be 88% of cases of new infections.I traced it back to PHE and found this:
According to the latest PHE report, 593,572 cases of the Delta Covid-19 variant have been recorded in England up to the 12th September 2021.
Since 1st February 2021 44% of these cases have been among the unvaccinated population, accounting for 248,803 cases. Whilst 46.8% have been among the vaccinated population, with 157,400 being recorded among the fully vaccinated (26.5% of all cases) and 120,812 being recorded among those who had only had a single dose of a Covid-19 vaccine (20% of all cases).
The mechanism suggested by the Nobel-winning virologist (antibody-dependent enhancement) is real and would work whenever someone got infected after vaccination, so it could easily occur more than a year later. Whether that makes it 'plausible' is debatable, since (a) the same effect would happen to those infected with SARS-CoV-2 and then reinfected, (b) vaccine designers are well aware of the effect and routinely test their vaccines to ensure that it doesn't occur, (c) it doesn't happen with any of the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines. Lots and lots and lots of people have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 after vaccination, and no, it ain't happening.So far I have yet to see anyone suggest a plausible mechanism for the vaccine causing any negative long-term effects, when "long-term" is defined as over a year later.
Cases are rising in the vaccinated, you know, the ones who are supposed to be protected.That indicates that the vaccine still offers significant protection against the virus. England has a vaccination rate of 88%. That means if the vaccine did not work that that the vaccinated would be 88% of cases of new infections.
Cases are rising in the vaccinated, you know, the ones who are supposed to be protected.
End of story. It's not working. But there's always another booster that is SURE to work..... (follow the money).
And cases are still lower than in the vaccinated, and severe disease and death are much lower in the vaccinated, than in the vaccinate. So the ones who are supposed to be protected are indeed being protected.Cases are rising in the vaccinated, you know, the ones who are supposed to be protected.
That is wrong -- a simple, straightforward falsehood. Every piece of information we have about the vaccines from every country says they do a very good job of protecting people from severe illness and death. You never try to refute that fact -- you just ignore it and keep repeating this falsehood. Why?End of story. It's not working.
That's the narrative. You learned it.Vaccines *reduce* infections in the exposed; vaccines *reduce* serious illness, hospitalization and death in the infected. They don't block every infection, they never did.
More infections in an areas means more other people exposed means more new infections. But, the vaccinated will get infected, etc. less often within the population. That's the story. Learn it.
It's rising daily. About 30% now...remember a short time ago with the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" nonsense? I do.And cases are still lower than in the vaccinated, and severe disease and death are much lower in the vaccinated, than in the vaccinate. So the ones who are supposed to be protected are indeed being protected.
That is wrong -- a simple, straightforward falsehood. Every piece of information we have about the vaccines from every country says they do a very good job of protecting people from severe illness and death. You never try to refute that fact -- you just ignore it and keep repeating this falsehood. Why?
It's rising daily. About 30% now...remember a short time ago with the "pandemic of the unvaccinated" nonsense? I do.
Of course it's rising -- vaccination rates continue to increase, and the supply of unvaccinated, uninfected people keeps decreasing. It remains true that vaccination prevents most severe disease and death. That is a fact that you have been told many times and that you absolutely refuse to acknowledge. You are spreading falsehood.It's rising daily. About 30% now.
But they were supposed to be protected, remember? But now 30% of the hospitalized cases are vaccinated in some areas. Was 10 percent a few weeks ago. It's not simply because more got vaccines- the vaccines were supposed to do something.Of course it's rising -- vaccination rates continue to increase, and the supply of unvaccinated, uninfected people keeps decreasing. It remains true that vaccination prevents most severe disease and death. That is a fact that you have been told many times and that you absolutely refuse to acknowledge. You are spreading falsehood.
But millions have natural immunity now and millions have had the vaccine (much overlap in that category).And it still is. Those who have acquired immunity from vaccines or prior infections are getting infected and dying at lower rates than those without immunity. There is no new data to challenge that fact.
And they are protected from severe disease and death. Just address that for a moment, which is the subject of the only question I asked you. Do you understand vaccines protect against severe disease and death or do you not?But they were supposed to be protected, remember?
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