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Featured Why do people ignore doctor warnings about covid

Discussion in 'Current News & Events (Articles Required)' started by Online.Gamer.79, Nov 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM.

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  1. Online.Gamer.79

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    People chose not to use a mask and make big hoopla about it and go on about conspiracies. I think there is certain type of person who hates being told to do something. Doctors and Scientists who spent decades studying there craft and someone with know medical training will hoot and holler about conspiracies and then you look into were the conspiracy started and you find it was on Facebook page run by someone who did not graduate college.

    Satan tempted Jesus he said jump of this building and gods angels will protect you. Jesus looked at Satan and said you should not put the lord your god to a foolish test.

    Or the modern parable of the man who who was in a flood and kept saying god will save me. Three people tried to save him and he drowned and he asked god why did you not save me. God looked at him...probably like he was and idiot...and said I sent three people to save you.

    God gives us emergency response people for disasters, doctors and scientist for disease...and you know what they do good job. In 1980 Smallpox one of the worlds most deadly disease was eradicated by vaccines. It had been around for thousands of year and killed millions if not billions of people. I hear all the conspiracy theories and look at the world and realize were not the bad off.

    200 years ago unless you were wealthy, the average person was considered old if he made it to 40. Now people live to there 100s easy. 120 years ago...any cancer was death sentence...2020 almost every cancer caught early is treatable and beatable. Vaccines have taken diseases that used to cause either death or severe physical problems and beaten them.

    Almost all the problems we have with covid could have been avoided if people had listened to doctors. Countries that practice social distancing and were masks have less covid problems.

    I am really trying to understand this.

    Here is an article about wearing masks telling you that you should were them why do people ignore it.

    Yes, You Should Wear a Mask. Here’s How and Why
     
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  2. Aaron_Bethlhm

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    Which doctors ?

    Find out by testing, continuing to test, always seeking the truth, and search on duckduck for effects of wearing masks.
    (note, not for negative effects - just search for effects of wearing mask) ....

    Don't assume one group of doctors nor politicians will tell the truth. Test everything, think for yourself as you search for the truth. Don't be political. Don't be medical.

    Don't worry about any so-called conspiracy.

    Just seek the truth, and keep always seeking the truth. Trusting always in God.

    Then, the info in the op will entirely change.
     
  3. Aaron_Bethlhm

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    Good... keep searching, seek and keep seeking.
    Many have shown that the previous information is not accurate - or not as it seems.
    The winning side gets to re-write history, remember.
    i.e. those in control, those with the money/ownership/ censoring power tell the story they want to, and it is rarely if ever truthful.

    Consider focusing on nutrition the cancer answer, and how people were free of cancer until they started eating processed foods, and other so-called technological progress (including pollution) that causes so much disease....

    The whole world, according to Scripture is deceived, and deceiving.... so ... keep seeking the truth realizing this... people are sinful, and greedy, and corporations do not have a soul nor a conscience (even Martin Luther said this long before the industrial revolution).
     
  4. Albion

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    Keep in mind that there are a variety of reasons why people seem not to comply.

    One, is that they think themselves to be invincible.

    Another is that they have some reason to think that the threat isn't as real as claimed.

    You want people to believe the medical experts and then act like it. Unfortunately, the medical community has changed its mind about the causes and prevention of the Covid 19 virus a number of times already.

    In addition, the people see their political leaders (from one political party overwhelmingly) issuing dire warnings and then ignoring that "critical" advice in their own lives.

    Given those facts, it is not surprising that a lot of people are skeptical. It's because of the actions of the very people who are held up to us as the knowledgeable ones.

    If the trustworthiness of the experts is compromised, and especially by their own track records, why WOULDN'T a lot of ordinary citizens decline to answer the call when it comes the next time from those medical experts and political leaders?

    That leaves only the people in the first category, the "can't tell me what to do" types.

    They, however, really are not as numerous as the people who might have complied with whatever was said to be required...IF the leaders who supposedly knew the answers hadn't proved that they either did not know or else didn't mean what they said.
     
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  5. Online.Gamer.79

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    You have a point there lol
     
  6. Akita Suggagaki

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    I don't think that is "unfortunate". It shows they are learning and open to acknowledging when they have better understanding. That is better than digging heels in and refusing correction.
     
  7. Albion

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    That could be one explanation. But it could also be that they didn't know the right answers.

    In either case, what it shows to the public is uncertainty. At the least. So it is natural that the people would not be willing to take the next version of their advice or demands without wondering. And that is what the original post on this thread was inquiring about.

    So yes, I'd call that unfortunate, since I think most of us would much prefer that all the answers were known from the start, everybody followed the advice, and the disease were conquered. Wouldn't you prefer that yourself?
     
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  8. Online.Gamer.79

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    What I would think is ignore our politicians in the U.S. the majority are full it, I would start looking at multiple doctors and what the majority say, and majority advice masks and social distancing, no morons on social media with medical experience. I would look at the countries who are dealing with covid better than we are which is about everyone. The real worry is when they do have a viable vaccine and apparently they do and that should be ready before the end of the year and to many people refuse to take it. It only works if I think like 70 percent take it so we can have herd immunity.
     
  9. Albion

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    I have a hunch that people will initially be nervous about taking the vaccine, but that if there are not reports of bad side-effects from it, that number (70% or whatever it is) will fall dramatically. As we've heard, the majority of the people will not be in line to get it right away anyhow.

    First, come the medical providers. Then come the elderly. Only then come the main body of the people and by that time, the question of side-effects should be basically settled.
     
  10. Hazelelponi

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    Because in the United States there is 3% of the population who have contracted the disease, and of those 3% have succumbed to the disease. That's since this began, so over the course of the last 8 months.

    That is a .09% (please note the decimal point) chance for Americans of dying from this disease, this year.

    Next year those numbers may change somewhat; infection rates may go up but due to our increased knowledge of the disease mortality rates may go down significantly, and/or the vaccines that are expected to come onto the market in the next few months may create a drop in overall cases...

    Either way, this next year will undoubtedly be more survivable than this one that carried with it many unknowns where the disease is concerned.

    And this one had a 99.9% survivability rate, as far as COVID is concerned.

    That's not a big threat to most people in the grand scheme of threatening things.

    Couple that with the fact I do not personally know anyone who contracted the disease, and certainly no one who died from it... and know most people are like me. We don't know anyone who so much as caught a sniffle in all this certain death hysteria... (knowing of people who got sick is far different than actually knowing people who did)

    Which makes it seem far more hysterical, and far less something to be afraid of, even if you don't look at the numbers.
     
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  11. Akita Suggagaki

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    Of course, but it is not in touch with realty.
    Many seem to prefer unreality and that is even more unfortunate.

    And it is not as if the experts are stupid or evil. It is a new virus. They are learning. So for someone to blow off Drs. Birx, Fauci, Redfield and Adam because "I don't think they know what they are doing." And then listen to Dr Atlas because , "I agree with him. I like what he is saying." That is just foolish.
     
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    It's just a new version of an old virus.

    There's nothing new about the physics of aerosols. No, six feet is nowhere near enough to do any good.

    There's nothing new about the efficacy of masks. No, a surgical mask or a cloth mask are not considered effective protection against an airborne virus.

    What have they actually learned about this virus? They learned that it was more virulent because the spikes on the outside of the envelope were more complimentary to the membrane proteins of the target cells. How does that change the efficacy of preventative measures? It doesn't. It simply means that if you do get it, then you'll get sicker. The mode of transmission, and the mode of preventing that transmission remain unchanged.

    In other words, the experts had no excuse for their dithering.

    It's just that I'm not particularly afraid of the virus, but mass hysteria terrifies me. A grocery store full of scared people with masks presents a greater risk of bodily harm to me than this virus. Irrational fear is a rudderless ship.
     
  13. Akita Suggagaki

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    So best to ignore them now?
     
  14. nonaeroterraqueous

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    I distrust the ditherers, and I never ignore those whom I distrust.
     
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    The epidemiology of SARS-CoV-2 indicates that most infections are spread through close contact, not airborne transmission
    Available data indicate that SARS-CoV-2 has spread more like most other common respiratory viruses, primarily through respiratory droplet transmission within a short range (e.g., less than six feet). There is no evidence of efficient spread (i.e., routine, rapid spread) to people far away or who enter a space hours after an infectious person was there.

    Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)
     
  16. loveofourlord

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    it's so depressing watching the reations to covid and this very topic. It's only going to get worse and people continue to treat this like a joke..
     
  17. Aldebaran

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    It wasn't all that long ago that people were generally suspicious of Big Pharma and those who want us to depend on it, such as the doctors who are on TV each night telling us what to do, and now how to live and even how to celebrate the holidays. Is it surprising when people are suspicious when they're now told that only Big Pharma can solve our problems--first with masks and social distancing and isolation, and now the vaccines they are going to make billions of dollars on from our dependence?

    They first said not to wear masks, then wear them. First they didn't protect the wearer, and now they do. The virus was spread through surface contact, but now they say it's airborne. It gets a little tiring listening to them, so it's no surprise people are starting not to.
     
  18. Aaron_Bethlhm

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    Want some better news? Some good news? Remember this information earlier this year, in the population overall ? >>
    "Apr 25, 2020 — Of the 2,028 who tested positive, close to 95% had no symptoms. ..."

    And other info harder to find now, was more widely published - about 90% to 97% of all people had no problems , no worries, even if they got covid ..... it simply did not harm most people at all.

    If people got infected, they usually had no symptoms, and the next group of people if they got infected, had only mild symptoms, like a cold, or at worse like a one or two day flu.
     
  19. Albion

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    I'm in touch with realty, but they don't seem able to sell my house after trying for months.

    We can agree with all of that, but the situation doesn't change.

    I was simply pointing out why a lot of people do not respond to the threat in the way some here think they should...and it's not, for most of them, just that they don't let anyone tell them what to do.

    There are reasons which are understandable, if anybody cares to know. I can see that many don't.
     
  20. Online.Gamer.79

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    Well all insurance has to cover there will be cost later but right now getting it under control is the goal. And big pharma yeah some of them are crooked as hell. But that same group wiped small pox arguably one of the most devastating diseases in history for 1000s of year it millions if not billions. It has made almost every cancer with a few rare exceptions treatable and man cases curable if caught early. 100 years ago if you had cancer you died. A hundred different diseases that killed or disabled people thousands of year are under control. HIV while steal dangerous is as about as manageable as diabetes...will it probably kill you eventually yes. But it is controllable. You also have to remember the people who start all these big pharma is evil are debunked most of them do not even have a medical degree and people listen to them lol. We actually have educated people who believe the earth is flat.
     
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