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By His Grace said:Please don't put words in my mouth that I didn't say, or add on to what I said, and didn't say. I do not believe that every Jew that has not accepted Christ is totally lost. The Jews before Christ came, and who worshipped God were saved...Like Abraham.
False, sort of....
No man has ever or could ever achieve atonement for sin WITHOUT the righteousness of Christ imputed upon them.
All "Saved" jews before Christ came were saved based on their faith in the messiah. None are saved apart from faith in Christ messiah.
Are you serious here??? Haven't you ever done a geneology of your family, or your family never told you what nationality you are descended from?
Yes, I was able to trace it back to the 1400's in Germany. no farther. Records simply don't exist.
I come from the linage of Jonah. My people took on the name Jonas instead, for whatever reasons way back when.
Prove it.
Which one of Jonah's Kids did "your people" descend from?
If you could see my father, sister, and myself, you would see the Jewishness in us.
Well, if only I had a photograph of a Jew from 2500 years ago to compare your looks to!
Just because you might look like a Russian Khazar, dosen't make you a Hebrew.
As far as being 1/4 Jew, who knows if that counts as being a Jew in Gods eyes.
Here's the reality:
The vast majority of so-called Jews in the world today are the Ashkenazim Jews, while the remainder of them are the Sephardim Jews. The Ashkenazim Jews have as their background not the nation of Israel but a country called Khazaria, which country at one time was the largest country in Europe. The settlers of Khazaria were Turks and Huns. In A.D. 740 King Bulan of Khazaria decided to adopt the Judaistic religion for his country. A number of Jews were already living there. So he converted to Judaism, along with all his officials, and whole nation ended up being known as a nation of Jews. In 970 Russia came in and dominated the situation, and the Khazars were scattered, many of them going down into Poland and Lithuania. Where at the dawn of our modern civilization the largest concentration of Jews were found. Today, the largest percentage of so-called Jews in the world have as their background this group of people.
Encyclopedia Americana (1986)
"Racial and Ethnic Considerations. Some theorists have considered the Jews a distinct race, although this has no factual basis. In every country in which the Jews lived for a considerable time, their physical traits came to approximate those of the indigenous people. Hence the Jews belong to several distinct racial types, ranging, for example, from fair to dark. Among the reasons for this phenomenon are voluntary or involuntary miscegenation and the conversion of Gentiles to Judaism" (Encyclopedia Americana, 1986, vol. 16, p. 71).
Collier's Encyclopedia (1977)
"A common error and persistent modern myth is the designation of the Jews as a 'race! This is scientifically fallacious, from the standpoint of both physical and historical tradition. Investigations by anthropologists have shown that Jews are by no means uniform in physical character and that they nearly always reflect the physical and mental characteristics of the people among whom they live" (Collier's Encyclopedia, 1977, vol. 13, p. 573).
Funk and Wagnall's New Encyclopedia (1970)
"In 1970 the Israeli Knesset adopted legislation defining a Jew as one born of a Jewish mother or a convert." (vol. 14, p. 214)
The Encyclopedia Brittanica (1973)
"The Jews As A Race: The findings of physical anthropology show that, contrary to the popular view, there is no Jewish race. Anthropornetric measurements of Jewish groups in many parts of the world indicate that they differ greatly from one another with respect to all the important physical characteristics." (vol. 12, page 1054)
Encyclopedia Judaica Jerusalem (1971)
"It is a common assumption, and one that sometimes seems ineradicable even in the face of evidence to the contrary, that the Jews of today constitute a race, a homogeneous entity easily recognizable. From the preceding discussion of the origin and early history of the Jews, it should be clear that in the course of their formation as a people and a nation they had already assimilated a variety of racial strains from people moving into the general area they occupied. This had taken place by interbreeding and then by conversion to Judaism of a considerable number of communities. . . ."
"Thus, the diversity of the racial and genetic attributes of various Jewish colonies of today renders any unified racial classification of them a contradiction in terms. Despite this, many people readily accept the notion that they are a distinct race. This is probably reinforced by the fact that some Jews are recognizably different in appearance from the surrounding population. That many cannot be easily identified is overlooked and the stereotype for some is extended to all - a not uncommon phenomenon" (Encyclopedia Judaica Jerusalem, 1971, vol. 3, p. 50).
Today, being a Jew simply means that one is of the Judaistic religion or a convert to it, or else in a "brotherhood" of those who are. Therefore, being a Jew has nothing to do with race.
I don't blame you one bit!Sorry, I can tell by your questioning on this that you are wanting to get into a heated debate about this subject [antichrist]. I'm not going there. Been there, done that before. I'll stick with my views, and you can have yours.
If I held to such an indefensible, unscriptural tradition as this, I sure wouldn't want to engage anyone in debate about it.
I know It's far easier to sweep it under the rug and hope nobody calls you to account for it, then to actually publicly test your view against scripture.
If you change your mind, however, I'll be here.
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