Windows 11?

[Vince53]

There are a lot of posts on the Windows Insider forum, urging MS to make their TPM program optional.

Folks, if that's all you want, you only need to stay with Windows 10. Despite the hoopla, Windows 11 is essentially the Windows 10X upgrade. It re-arranges the operating system, but does little else.

The power-hungry TPM program raises your security level to deal with the growing threat of ransomware--other than that, 11 does little that 10 doesn't already do.

 

[henry25]

My eighth version is slowing down...

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[Neostarwcc]

Happy release day! Anybody enjoying w11 so far? I'll be upgrading my rig when my new Power Supply comes this afternoon.

 

[JesseBassett]

I personally am enjoying Windows 11...mind you I am using the insider preview, but still it works 100% fine on my machine.

 

[Neostarwcc]

I have one complaint about w11 so far. I hate the new taskbar. I don't use all of these useless apps from microsoft and we have no start menu anymore. I'll have to get used to typing every single thing I want to open from now on because I can't even add my basic programs to the bar. It has to be all this useless microsoft app stuff. And all of my open programs are in the middle of the screen... yeah...

 

[pgp_protector]

Been using the preview for a while now, no issues so far.
Don't know if there's a way to migrate from preview to release thogh.

 

[Vince53]

The first full versions of Windows 11 have been released (I'm still on the waiting list) and the results are:

1) It works
2) Customers are disappointed at how little it does different than Windows 10

As explained previously, Windows 11 is essentially the Windows 10X upgrade. It re-arranges the furniture and it adds TPM security.

 

[Dreams65]

The hide-and-seek game they keep playing with the tools doesn't bother me since I always use the God Mode folder to access those anyways. But having to pin the Task Manager to the task bar because the developers removed right click access is just lame.

Also...because they removed grouping of icons, I had to create a separate folder and place shortcuts to all my games in there and then pin that folder to the start menu. When clicked on the folder opens on the desktop instead of in the start menu. It seems like these developers like monkeying around with the start menu just to frustrate users. I swear, if the gaming industry ever decides to fully support Linux, I'd switch in a heartbeat.

 

[elytron]

I download the Windows 11 disk image ISO from the official download page. Have not install on any of my machines yet. I need to review the system requirements again and see if I can. Would a fresh install from USB be the best / easiest method of upgrading?

I really hope these new Win11 machines in the future will be more malware resistant and secure.

 

[Vince53]

The minimum requirements include a dual-core CPU and 4 gigs of RAM. However, going all the way back to Windows 95, if you do not have double the minimum requirements, you will have trouble any time you run any complex programs.

 

[Dreams65]

I download the Windows 11 disk image ISO from the official download page. Have not install on any of my machines yet. I need to review the system requirements again and see if I can. Would a fresh install from USB be the best / easiest method of upgrading?

I really hope these new Win11 machines in the future will be more malware resistant and secure.

If you have issues, see my post here: Prepping my PC for Windows 11 upgrade

This may help.

 

[Vince53]

The first complaints are coming in. Certain AMD processors, while meeting the minimum requirements, are slowing down about 15% under Windows 11. The biggest problems, of course, are high-end programs such as games. MS apparently expected this to happen but didn't warn consumers. MS promises to have it fixed within a month.

 

[JesseBassett]

@Vince53 ,
My computer has an AMD Raedon A8-5500 processor and Windows 11 works well with it. Even though the pc says I do not meet the "minimum requirements" for Windows 11 (i.e. no tpm or secureboot), I can still run windows11. I like that. Mind you if they ever release an update I will need to install it manually, but that is okay

 

[Vince53]

Jesse, are you using the Windows 11 Preview Version, or did you download the full Windows 11 that was released two days ago?

The Preview Version runs well on any machine that runs 10 well, because it does little besides re-arrange things. The full version will operate the power-hungry TPM system,.

 

[JesseBassett]

@Vince53 ,
I downloaded the full OS ISO from the download site. I used the media creation tool.

 

[Vince53]

Jesse, I'm glad that it worked out well for you.

 

[Dreams65]

After mounting frustrations with Windows 11, I rolled back my system to Windows 10. Throughout the day I had to restart my PC several times because Search stopped functioning. Stopping and restarting the service did not help, only a restart got the Search working again. The other issue was the disappearing icons in the start menu and the task bar. It only occurred with three apps, but I didn't find out what was causing it. All this, together with what I posted above, is too much.

When the Windows developers pull their heads out of the their orifices and give the users what they want and something that really works, then maybe I'll install 11 again. With every version since 8, It seems that Microsoft is corralling users into an eco system that only Microsoft wants, regardless of user desires and feedback. If this continues I'll eventually switch to Linux.

 

[Vince53]

Dream, I'm sorry that all of this happened to you. To help all of us out, could you answer some questions?

1) Does your rig meet the minimum requirements?
2) How many cores does your CPU have, and how many gigs of RAM do you have?
3) How did you install 11?

Your information will help me and others on this forum.

 

[Dreams65]

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X (6 cores)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Strix B550-F Gaming (with fTPM and UEFI enabled, CSM disabled)
RAM: Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR-4 3200

Windows 11 (current version) installed from an ISO downloaded directly from Microsoft.

But none of that has anything to do with the way Windows 11 was designed. Most of my complaints are about features that have been removed or the way a user has to access certain features. The start menu is the worst I have seen on any operating system. After Windows 7, Microsoft simply refuses to let the user configure the start menu the way a user wants to. For many users the start menu is the door to Windows and Microsoft keeps installing more and more locks on it.

 

[Vince53]

Thank you, Dream. I re-read your previous post, and you did explain that most of your objections were due to the way 11 re-arranges the furniture. Your CPU and other hardware should easily support 11.

Since you can install almost everything in 11 while staying with 10, there is no reason to upgrade if you don't like 11.