Why worry about the Ten Commandments, if you are disregarding the Sabbath?

[ThreeAM]

No doctors should work on Sabbath day, huh? A Doctor is a lifestyle. Luke 14:2-4 "There in front of him was a man suffering from dropsy. 3Jesus asked the Pharisees and experts in the law, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath or not?" But they remained silent. So taking hold of the man, he healed him and sent him away.

Keep working at Sabbath works and find better solutions how people who heals on Sabbath won't have their own sabbath.

I'm a SDA doc and there are many SDA hospitals across the world ...we beleive in healing on the Sabbath so what is your point?

 

[JimfromOhio]

I'm a SDA doc and there are many SDA hospitals across the world ...we beleive in healing on the Sabbath so what is your point?

They work .. do they? Do they rest, do they have their "Sabbath Day" on the 7th day if they work on Saturdays?

 

[JimfromOhio]

They work .. do they? Do they rest, do they have their "Sabbath Day" on the 7th day if they work on Saturdays?

No answers? Ummmmm

 

[ThreeAM]

They work .. do they? Do they rest, do they have their "Sabbath Day" on the 7th day if they work on Saturdays?

I try to work on the sabbath only doing things that are an absolute necessity. For example I don't open my office on the Sabbath I do take call and take care of any emergencies that come up. I see patients who are in the hospital over the sabbath. I don't do any elective surgeries on the sabbath and there is time for church most of the time.

 

[ThreeAM]

No answers? Ummmmm

Sorry I took time to watch TV

 

[TamaraLynne]

Hmmmmmm.........all I know is that everyday........all day long I think of Jesus..........I love him everyday and pray that I can know the truth..... revealed to me by the Holy Spirit. Everyday is for him.
I found this scripture about rest and it has put me in a place of calm and rest. When mediatating on this scripture it is not only a moment of rest....but a very holy moment.
I do know many who break the commandments ......and not just the sabbath one. I know many who keep the sabbath and go around hurting others with gossip...telling lies.

Mt 22:37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.Mt 22:38This is the first and great commandment.Mt 22:39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.Mt 22:40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Mt 11:29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am MEEK and lowly in heart: and ye shall find REST unto your souls.

Love
Tam

 

[ThreeAM]

Hmmmmmm.........all I know is that everyday........all day long I think of Jesus..........I love him everyday and pray that I can know the truth..... revealed to me by the Holy Spirit. Everyday is for him.
I found this scripture about rest and it has put me in a place of calm and rest. When mediatating on this scripture it is not only a moment of rest....but a very holy moment.
I do know many who break the commandments ......and not just the sabbath one. I know many who keep the sabbath and go around hurting others with gossip...telling lies.

Mt 22:37Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.Mt 22:38This is the first and great commandment.Mt 22:39And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.Mt 22:40On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


Mt 11:29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am MEEK and lowly in heart: and ye shall find REST unto your souls.

Love
Tam

How many?

 

[TamaraLynne]

How many?

Most...............but I do know that all sins can be forgiven except one. It is not for me to judge others.....
Not my place.........

 

[ThreeAM]

Most...............but I do know that all sins can be forgiven except one. It is not for me to judge others.....
Not my place.........

percisely The church is full of sinners Fortunately if we follow Christ his blood will cover ALL of our sins.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I try to work on the sabbath only doing things that are an absolute necessity. For example I don't open my office on the Sabbath I do take call and take care of any emergencies that come up. I see patients who are in the hospital over the sabbath. I don't do any elective surgeries on the sabbath and there is time for church most of the time.

Ahh... I know some medical workers that make sure they don't work on their 7th "Sabbath" day unless someone needed medical attention for whatever reasons. This goes with Police Officers and Firefighters when their schedules are rotated weekly.

We do follow the Sabbath.... its just that we don't do it on "Saturday". We do it every 7th day. We are commanded to "Rest" and "Reflect" God. Hebrews 4:9-10 "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his."

 

[Jesus Is Real]

Ahh... I know some medical workers that make sure they don't work on their 7th "Sabbath" day unless someone needed medical attention for whatever reasons. This goes with Police Officers and Firefighters when their schedules are rotated weekly.

We do follow the Sabbath.... its just that we don't do it on "Saturday". We do it every 7th day. We are commanded to "Rest" and "Reflect" God. Hebrews 4:9-10 "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his."

THIS IS ENTERING GOD'S REST:

also from 'his own work' is:-----------> The works of the flesh:

Gal 5:14-26
14 The entire law is summed up in a single command: "Love your neighbor as yourself." 15 If you keep on biting and devouring each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.

16 So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. 17 For the sinful nature desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the sinful nature. They are in conflict with each other, so that you do not do what you want. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under law.

19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; 20 idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions 21 and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. 25 Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. NIV

In a sence what the Holy Spirit is saying through Paul is that when you stay in these things it's demonic and no 'devil' will go to heaven. So God's Spirit is pleading with us to forsake them and walk In Him. And these are Christian's that God is talking to NOT the world. He has to warn us,.....because He knows that most have fallen from the Faith and God is near to taking His Spirit from us. I walked away and went more into sin when I was first saved,.....so I know why He has to warn us. Because HE LOVES US and knows our weaknessess.....but if we don't finally hear them..........we lose even though He had Saved us out of Egypt at first.

These things IS ENTERING INTO GOD'S REST - Sabbath-rest

Jude 5
5 I will therefore put you in remembrance, though ye once knew this, how that the Lord, having saved the people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed them that believed not.

Bless you, Connie

 

[Cliff2]

I try to work on the sabbath only doing things that are an absolute necessity. For example I don't open my office on the Sabbath I do take call and take care of any emergencies that come up. I see patients who are in the hospital over the sabbath. I don't do any elective surgeries on the sabbath and there is time for church most of the time.

I think that is the way to do things.

 

[ThreeAM]

Ahh... I know some medical workers that make sure they don't work on their 7th "Sabbath" day unless someone needed medical attention for whatever reasons. This goes with Police Officers and Firefighters when their schedules are rotated weekly.

We do follow the Sabbath.... its just that we don't do it on "Saturday". We do it every 7th day. We are commanded to "Rest" and "Reflect" God. Hebrews 4:9-10 "There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his."

God has set only one day of the weekly cycle aside as HOLY he set it aside and SANCTIFIED it as HOLY. He did not make days 1-6 HOLY. When he provided manna for ALL of Israel he gave twice as much on the 6th day of the week and None on the 7th day to prevent gathering manna on the Sabbath. In the 10 Commandments God asks us to: "Remember the sabbath day, TO KEEP IT HOLY" we cannot keep something Holy that God has never made HOLY...like days 1-6 of the week. Now is God supposed be reverenced every day of the week? Of course He is. But only the 7th day of the week is the HOLY Sabbath.

 

[JimfromOhio]

God has set only one day of the weekly cycle aside as HOLY he set it aside and SANCTIFIED it as HOLY. He did not make days 1-6 HOLY. When he provided manna for ALL of Israel he gave twice as much on the 6th day of the week and None on the 7th day to prevent gathering manna on the Sabbath. In the 10 Commandments God asks us to: "Remember the sabbath day, TO KEEP IT HOLY" we cannot keep something Holy that God has never made HOLY...like days 1-6 of the week. Now is God supposed be reverenced every day of the week? Of course He is. But only the 7th day of the week is the HOLY Sabbath.

Aren't Christians supposed to be sancified daily? Romans 12:1-2 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual[a] act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Everyday is a sabbath day.

 

[ThreeAM]

Aren't Christians supposed to be sancified daily? Romans 12:1-2 Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of God's mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God—this is your spiritual[a] act of worship. Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

Yes we are sanctified by the Holy Sprit not by the sabbath. Observance of the Sabbath is a SIGN that we have been sanctified by Holy Spirit.

Exo 31: Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, [Abraham's Seed] saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.

Gal 3:29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Everyday is a sabbath day.

Exo 20:1 And God spake all these words, saying,..... Exd 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exd 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates: Exd 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them [is], and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Psa 89:34 My covenant will I not break, nor alter the thing that is gone out of my lips.

No disrespect meant Jim but I choose God

 

[JimfromOhio]

Galatians 6:10-14 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Romans 5:20-21 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 8:17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. Galatians 4:7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir. Ephesians 3:6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

Philippians 3:20-21 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

I will also choose and serve God as Jesus said in Matthew 22:37-40
"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Jesus asked in Luke 6:9 "I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?"

Psalm 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts.

God alone is the judge of Sabbath by looking in our hearts rather than our actions.

 

[BrightCandle]

God alone is the judge of Sabbath by looking in our hearts rather than our actions.

Dear Jim,

Consider this fact, that our Spirit inspired and empowered actions as shown in our willingness to confirm our will to God's will as defined in the Ten Commandments are an indication of the condition of our "heart". Lawlessness is sin, obeying the Law by having Jesus dwell in our heart is purity and holiness. That is why the Sabbath is so important it has to do with our relationship with God primarily, as do the other three commandments of the first four of the ten, while number five throught ten as more to do with our relationship between human beings.

Also, think about this profound theological fact, that if God could have changed his Holy Law (e.g. Ten Commandments), then that would have saved Jesus from dying on the cross for our sins. Since the Bible defines sin as the "trangression of the law", if the law could have been done away with or changed, don't you think that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit would have done so?

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Galatians 6:10-14 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Romans 5:20-21 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Great post!!!!!The Spirit of Christ writes His laws in our hearts and the One Main one being LOVE. Without LOVE, the 10 Commandments are all broken, period.

Christ did fulfill these OT passages didn't He?

Hosea 13:14 "I will ransom them from the power of the grave; I will redeem them from death. O Death, I will be your plagues! O Grave, I will be your destruction! Pity is hidden from My eyes.

Isaiah 28:17 Also I will make justice the measuring line, And righteousness the plummet; The hail will sweep away the refuge of lies, And the waters will overflow the hiding place. 18 Your covenant with death will be annulled, And your agreement with Sheol will not stand; When the overflowing scourge passes through,

 

[ThreeAM]

Galatians 6:10-14 All who rely on observing the law are under a curse, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."Clearly no one is justified before God by the law, because, "The righteous will live by faith." The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, "The man who does these things will live by them." Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: "Cursed is everyone who is hung on a tree." He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit. John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses; grace and truth came through Jesus Christ. Romans 5:20-21 The law was added so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

Jim we are have all sinned and are worthy of eternal death. Christ has died for us thus covering our sins for us with His sinless blood when we are Christ's God see Christ's sinnless blood and does not see our sins.

The curse of the Law is the Law's death penalty. If we still seek salavation by our own works of the Law we are Hoplessly lost...we are still cursed with the death penalty of the law.

Only one is righteous, and that is Christ. When we depend on Christ righteuosness the Death penalty of the Law does not apply to us because God's sees Christ's sinless blood and does not see our sins.

AGAIN we keep the Sabbath because God has asked us to Remember the Sabbath NOT because we think our personal works will be worthy of salvation.

Rom 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.


Deu 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death, and thou hang him on a tree:

Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

Romans 8:17 Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. Galatians 4:7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir. Ephesians 3:6 This mystery is that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus.

NLT Gal 3:28 There is no longer Jew or Gentile, slave or free, male or female. For you are all Christians--you are one in Christ Jesus.

NLT Gal 3:29 And now that you belong to Christ, you are the true children of Abraham. [True Israel] You are his heirs, and now all the promises God gave to him belong to you.

Philippians 3:20-21 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ,who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.

I will also choose and serve God as Jesus said in Matthew 22:37-40
"'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.' This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments."
Jesus asked in Luke 6:9 "I ask you, which is lawful on the Sabbath: to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?"

Psalm 139:23 Search me, O God, and know my heart; test me and know my anxious thoughts.

God alone is the judge of Sabbath by looking in our hearts rather than our actions.

There are two great principles on which the Ten Commandments Hang.

1. Love God with all your heart...the first 4 commandments [including the 4th] tells us how to show our Love for God.

2. Love thy neighbor as yourself...The last 6 commandments tells us how we should love our neighbors as our self.

It looks like the Ten Commandments are the standard for Jugment. see Revelation 22:15

Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[Parts of the 10 commandments]

Jame 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

[all parts of the 10 Commandments ]

12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.

James 2:17-18 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, AND the faith of Jesus.

Those who are saved will have both Faith AND Works. Faith LEADS to good works.

 

[JimfromOhio]

Those who are saved will have both Faith AND Works. Faith LEADS to good works.

Faith do not lead because leading means working for salvation. Faith produces works which means faith is from within that produces works. My faith is not in my works. My faith is the generator of my works. Faith produces works. Works reveal faith or the lack of it. Being is expressed in doing.

We Christians stand together on the basic truth that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners. We are saved by faith in Christ, alone; without works and without our merit. Faith is believing and receiving, as in Acts 16:31: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved;" and as in John 1:12: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe in his name." Action without faith is directionless and empty. Faith without action is comatose or dead. What does our action (or lack of it) reveal about your faith and mine? The Bible says, "The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: That if you confess with your mouth, 'Jesus is Lord,' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved (Romans 10:8b-10). The heart believes and the mouth confesses. Both are necessary to salvation.

Works: I am God's letter, written in my heart to be known and read by everybody. I am to show that I am a letter from Christ, the result of His ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of my heart (2 Corinthians 3:2-3). My life as a Christian takes work and requires the commitment of my heart, mind and body. Christ is not outside of me but He is inside me. Since Christ is within me, I must listen to His Word and walk in His steps (2 Corinthians 4:10).

No other methods are required. Period. If someone or a denomination tells me that my salvation is not true... Then, they don't know my heart as God knows. God is not impressed by my works (1. Samuel 16:7). The Lord said to Samuel, "Don't judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. The Lord don't make decisions the way you do. People judge by outward appearance (i.e. works), but the Lord looks at a person's thoughts and intentions (heart)." (NLT)

Sabbath is from within rather than outer works. I have my Sabbath from my heart. Hebrews 8:10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Hebrews 10:16 "This is the covenant I will make with them after that time, says the Lord. I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds."

In the Old Testament, the Ten Commandments were written in stones. In the New Testament, the Commandments are written in our hearts. 2 Corinthians 3:3 You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

1 Corinthians 4:6 Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

Matthew 12:2 When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, "Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath."

Matthew 16:6 "Be careful," Jesus said to them. "Be on your guard against the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadducees." Matthew 23:26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. Colossians 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.