The Ten Commandments are the Covenant, did you know?

[JesusFollowerForever]

Have you not read that fulfilling the one thereby fulfills the ten (Ro 13:8, 10)?

good luck Claire.

 

[Clare73]

good luck Claire.

Don't believe in luck. . .I believe that fulfilling the law of love fulfills the Mosaic law (Ro 13:8, 10).

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Don't believe in luck. . .I believe that fulfilling the law of love fulfills the Mosaic law (Ro 13:8, 10).

Claire this is what I see, you tend to oversimplify the Gospel, jesus said many many things and explained it all, yes love is the fulfillment but love is more than a simple word. The Bibe gives warning about diminishing the law or commandments, serious warnings, I just wanted to inform you of this. the verses are in deuteronomy and i can quote but I wont here as I do not want to sound ilke I am accusing you/

You have to see the whole picture Claire and cannot say love is all without the details.

then what is it we must do to have eternal life, Jesus said clearly what to do, what is your take on all of this, What one must do in your opinion?

Have a good evening and a good Sabbath.

 

[ARBITER01]

Have you not read that fulfilling the one thereby fulfills the ten (Ro 13:8, 10)?

Correct.

New and old agree not. - Tyndale

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Correct.

New and old agree not. - Tyndale

ABSOLUTELY NOT what Jesus was teaching! again oversimplification!

 

[ARBITER01]

ABSOLUTELY NOT what Jesus was teaching! again oversimplification!

Jesus was the one Who taught that new wine cannot be put into old wineskins.

The new covenant does not agree with the old, they are completely different.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Jesus was the one Who taught that new wine cannot be put into old wineskins.

The new covenant does not agree with the old, they are completely different.

The New Covenant is established on better promises Heb 8:6, not established on better laws, that sadly most people focus on when God said He will write His law in the hearts and minds of the NC believer Instead of destroying them, just as Jesus promised He would not Mat 5:17-30 because we can’t making something written by our perfect God that is perfect for converting our souls, more perfect Psa 19:7 but He can give us better promises of how we can keep them through His power John 14:15-18

Not once did He say we can break God’s commandments, He taught the opposite He said we when lay aside the commandments of God, meaning they are not for me, we worship Him in vain and our heart is far from Him. I wish people would take this more seriously. Just like those outside the ark probably wished they took Noah more seriously, once the rain started coming down. Once Jesus comes all decisions will be sealed Rev 22:11

Mat 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father [a]or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people [c]draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

Mark 7:7 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’
8 For laying aside the commandment of God, you hold the tradition of men

Mat 5:19 Whoever therefore breaks one of the least of these commandments, and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever does and teaches them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Why its still sin breaking God‘s law quoting from the same Ten Commandments Rom 7:7 1 John 3:4 Breaking one we become a transgressor of God’s law. James 2:11-12 and thats not how one is saved as Jesus came to save us from our sins Mat 1:21, not in them. Heb 10:26-30 we need a conversion abiding in Him John 15:10 following His example 1 John 2:6

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Jesus was the one Who taught that new wine cannot be put into old wineskins.

The new covenant does not agree with the old, they are completely different

Mrk 2:22 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. Instead, new wine is poured into new wineskins.”

When Jesus talked about not putting new wine into old wineskins, He was teaching that the new life and truth He brought could not be forced into the old, rigid ways of religion, hence the letter of the law. The old wineskins represent hearts and minds that are locked in tradition, unable to grow or accept the living truth. The new wine is the fresh, Spirit-filled teaching of Jesus, which brings life and understanding from the heart.

Now, Jesus did not come to destroy God’s commandments. In fact, the commandments remain the unchanging foundation—they are the core of God's will and His covenant. But Jesus came to show their full meaning, to magnify the law and teach how to live it as God always intended—not just by the letter, but by the spirit behind it.

For example:

• The letter says: “Do not murder.” Jesus showed the spirit of that command by teaching us to reject anger, hatred, and insults.
• The letter says: “Do not commit adultery.” Jesus taught us that even lust in the heart breaks that law.
• The letter says: “Keep the Sabbath.” Jesus showed us that the Sabbath is not about cold rules, but about mercy, rest, and doing good.

This is the new wine—not a new law, but a deeper understanding of the same commandments, now alive in the heart through the Holy Spirit. The law is no longer something written only on stone, but written on our hearts. The Spirit gives us a new vision, helping us to see how each command is rooted in love—love for God and love for others.

This is what is explained by Jeremiah and also Paul quoting Jeremiah;

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

Jer 31:32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt— a covenant they broke, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.

Jer 31:33 “But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people.

To receive this new wine, we must become new wineskins—humble, open, supple and ready to be shaped by truth. Those who cling to the old, hardened way of following rules without heart or mercy cannot hold what Jesus offers. His way is full of life, and it shows us how to truly keep the commandments as they were always meant to be lived.

 

[BNR32FAN]

The Bible does present the Ten Commandments as the covenant itself. In Exodus 34:28, it is written:

"So he was there with the Lord forty days and forty nights; he neither ate bread nor drank water. And He wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments."​

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"So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone (Deuteronomy 4:13, NKJV)​

This clearly states that the Ten Commandments are the covenant. When we look at Jeremiah 31:31-33, we see God speaking of a new covenant, but notice what He says:

"Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the Lord.​

But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people."​

This passage does not say the law itself would change. Instead, it tells us that instead of being written on stone, it would be written in our hearts and minds. That means the law remains the same, but its place changes, from external tablets to internal conviction. This is why we see in the Gospels of John, Matthew, Luke and Mark, Jesus teaching the commandments and magnifying them.

Now, let's connect this with the Ark of the Covenant. In Deuteronomy 10:1-5, God commanded Moses to place the two tablets of the Ten Commandments inside the Ark:

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"At that time the Lord said to me, ‘Hew for yourself two tablets of stone like the first, and come up to Me on the mountain, and make yourself an ark of wood... Then I turned and came down from the mountain, and put the tablets in the ark which I had made; and there they are, just as the Lord commanded me.’"​

This shows the special place of the Ten Commandments, inside the Ark, symbolizing their central role in the covenant. But what about the rest of the law? In Deuteronomy 31:24-26, Moses wrote the book of the law and placed it beside the Ark:

"So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: ‘Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you.’”​

This distinction is important. The Ten Commandments were placed inside the Ark, showing their eternal, unchanging nature as the foundation of the covenant. The rest of the law was placed beside the Ark, acting as a witness.

Now, when Jeremiah speaks of the law being written in our hearts, he is speaking of the same law—the Ten Commandments. The "new" part of the covenant is not that the law changes but that God Himself ensures it is within us, guiding us from within rather than being an external set of rules. This aligns perfectly with how Jesus upheld and fulfilled the law, always pointing back to love for God and neighbor as the foundation of obedience (Matthew 22:36-40).

So, the New Covenant is not about replacing the Ten Commandments but about making them part of who we are, just as they were placed inside the Ark.

Blessings

No you need to read Exodus 24:7 my friend. The book of the covenant contained the 10 commandments along with everything God had spoken between chapters 20 and 24.

“Then He said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel, and you shall worship at a distance. Moses alone, however, shall come near to the Lord, but they shall not come near, nor shall the people come up with him.” Then Moses came and recounted to the people all the words of the Lord and all the ordinances; and all the people answered with one voice and said, “All the words which the Lord has spoken we will do!” Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord. Then he arose early in the morning, and built an altar at the foot of the mountain with twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel. He sent young men of the sons of Israel, and they offered burnt offerings and sacrificed young bulls as peace offerings to the Lord. Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and the other half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!” So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, “Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24‬:‭1‬-‭8‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to this, the 10 commandments were not the only commandments of the Old Covenant.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

The book of the covenant was handwritten by Moses written on parchment, placed beside the ark of the covenant

Deut 31:24 So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, 25 that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying: 26 “Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you;

The Ten Commandments was inside the ark of the Covenant that was written by God written in Stone, for its eternal nature

Deut 4:13 So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.

Exo 31:18 And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.

Placed inside the ark, under His mercy seat.

Exo 25:16 And you shall put into the ark the Testimony which I will give you.
Exo 40:20 He took the Testimony and put it into the ark, inserted the poles through the rings of the ark, and put the mercy seat on top of the ark.

The book that Moses wrote was outside, or beside the ark Deut 31:24-26

Did Moses write down what God said, of course, because God's law is for all people including Moses. But that changes not these very important distinctions clearly written in our Bibles.

The ark of the covenant holds God's personal Testimony, Exo 31:18 His law and will Psa 40:8, It’s why we see the ark of the covenant, His personal Testimony, the Ten Commandments written and spoken by the God of the Universe revealed at the last Trumpet before Jesus comes in all His Glory Rev 11:19 as it is the standard of what God will judge all man 2 Cor 5:10 James 2:11-12 Ecc 12:13-14 Mat 5:19-30 Rev 11:18-19 Rev 22:14-15 and removing anything God covers under His mercy seat which below sits God’s Testimony His Ten Commandments, laying it aside as to say its not for me, I do not believe that's going to work out so well as Jesus taught plainly Mat 15:3-14 Mark 7:7-13

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

No you need to read Exodus 24:7 my friend. The book of the covenant contained the 10 commandments along with everything God had spoken between chapters 20 and 24.

“Then He said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu and seventy of the elders of Israel, and you shall worship at a distance. Moses alone, however, shall come near to the Lord, but they shall not come near, nor shall the people come up with him.” Then Moses came and recounted to the people all the words of the Lord and all the ordinances; and all the people answered with one voice and said, “All the words which the Lord has spoken we will do!” Moses wrote down all the words of the Lord. Then he arose early in the morning, and built an altar at the foot of the mountain with twelve pillars for the twelve tribes of Israel. He sent young men of the sons of Israel, and they offered burnt offerings and sacrificed young bulls as peace offerings to the Lord. Moses took half of the blood and put it in basins, and the other half of the blood he sprinkled on the altar. Then he took the book of the covenant and read it in the hearing of the people; and they said, “All that the Lord has spoken we will do, and we will be obedient!” So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the people, and said, “Behold the blood of the covenant, which the Lord has made with you in accordance with all these words.””
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭24‬:‭1‬-‭8‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to this, the 10 commandments were not the only commandments of the Old Covenant.

When you say that the Ten Commandments were just part of the Old Covenant and that the whole law from Exodus 20 to 24 formed the covenant equally, you miss a key truth shown clearly in Scripture. The Bible makes a firm distinction between the Ten Commandments written directly by God, placed inside the ark, and called the covenant—and the rest of the laws given through Moses, which were added later and placed beside the ark. These are not the same in purpose or authority.

Deuteronomy 4:13 (NKJV) says it clearly:

“So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.”

This verse leaves no room for doubt. The Ten Commandments are the covenant. It doesn't say the covenant included the Ten Commandments along with other laws, it says the Ten Commandments themselves are the covenant God gave to His people.

Unlike the rest of the laws, the Ten Commandments were written directly by the hand of God. Exodus 31:18 (NKJV)says:

“And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God.”

This wasn’t something Moses wrote or delivered second-hand. These were God's own words, carved into stone by His own finger, to show their unchanging, eternal nature.

Then God told Moses to place those two tablets inside the ark. Deuteronomy 10:1-2, 5 (NKJV) tells us:

“At that time the Lord said to me, ‘Hew for yourself two tablets of stone like the first... and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets which you broke, and you shall put them in the ark.’ …Then I turned and came down from the mountain, and put the tablets in the ark which I had made; and there they are, just as the Lord commanded me.”

That’s why it’s called the Ark of the Covenant—because it held the Ten Commandments, God’s covenant, within it.

In contrast, the other laws, including judgments and ordinances from Exodus chapters 21 to 24, were written down by Moses in a scroll and placed beside the ark, not inside. Deuteronomy 31:24-26 (NKJV) says:

“So it was, when Moses had completed writing the words of this law in a book, when they were finished, that Moses commanded the Levites, who bore the ark of the covenant of the Lord, saying:
‘Take this Book of the Law, and put it beside the ark of the covenant of the Lord your God, that it may be there as a witness against you.’”

These laws were written by Moses—not by God’s hand—and served as a witness or guide. But they were not the covenant itself.

Now let’s address Exodus 24:1–8, which you quoted to support your view. This is a powerful and holy moment, where Moses read all the words God had spoken, including the Ten Commandments and other instructions. The people agreed to obey all that the Lord had spoken, and Moses sprinkled them with blood. Here is what it says:

“Then he took the Book of the Covenant and read in the hearing of the people. And they said, ‘All that the Lord has said we will do, and be obedient.’ And Moses took the blood, sprinkled it on the people, and said, ‘Behold, the blood of the covenant which the Lord has made with you according to all these words.’”
(Exodus 24:7–8, NKJV)

This event is often misunderstood. Yes, Moses read all the words the Lord had spoken, and the people agreed. But that does not change the fact that God Himself already defined what His covenant is: the Ten Commandments written by His finger, placed inside the ark. The ceremony in Exodus 24 was about sealing the agreement between God and His people. The additional instructions given between chapters 21 and 23 helped Israel understand how to live in obedience under the covenant, especially as a nation. These included judgments about how to treat one another, rules for slaves, and civil responsibilities. But none of these changed the heart of the covenant, it remained the Ten Commandments.

The blood Moses sprinkled sealed the people's acceptance of the whole relationship with God, but the eternal covenant was still based on the Ten Commandments. Think of it like this: the Ten Commandments are the foundation, and the other laws were instructions for daily life under that foundation. But they are not the covenant themselves. And just because something is sealed with blood doesn't make every part equal in permanence. The sacrificial system, for example, was also sealed with blood, but it pointed forward to Christ and was meant to pass away when the true Lamb came.

So yes, in Exodus 24 Moses read many laws. But that doesn't make them equal in purpose to the Ten Commandments. Only the Ten Commandments were called the covenant, written by God's own hand, and placed inside the ark. The rest were placed beside the ark, written by Moses, and served as a witness and a guide for a specific time.

God’s covenant stands firm, and Jesus Himself magnified it, not by cancelling it, but by showing its full meaning in the Spirit. The Ten Commandments are still the foundation of righteousness, and now, through the Spirit, we are taught how to live them from the heart, and not just obeying blindly the letters of the law like the pharisees did.

 

[BNR32FAN]

When you say that the Ten Commandments were just part of the Old Covenant and that the whole law from Exodus 20 to 24 formed the covenant equally, you miss a key truth shown clearly in Scripture. The Bible makes a firm distinction between the Ten Commandments written directly by God, placed inside the ark, and called the covenant—and the rest of the laws given through Moses, which were added later and placed beside the ark. These are not the same in purpose or authority.

So then circumcision wasn’t required for males to enter into God’s covenant?

 

[BNR32FAN]

Deuteronomy 4:13 (NKJV) says it clearly:
This verse leaves no room for doubt. The Ten Commandments are the covenant. It doesn't say the covenant included the Ten Commandments along with other laws, it says the Ten Commandments themselves are the covenant God gave to His people.

Verse 13 is addressing the people who heard God speak in Exodus 20 before they got frightened and asked Moses to go speak to Him in private and relay the rest of His commandments to them.

“Then the Lord spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of words, but you saw no form—only a voice. So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬-‭13‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The 10 commandments were the only commandments they specifically heard God speak. It’s not saying that the 10 commandments were the only requirements to enter into God’s covenant. Jewish males were absolutely required to be circumcised in order to enter into God’s covenant. That commandment was carried over from God’s covenant with Abraham.

“This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised. And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. And every male among you who is eight days old shall be circumcised throughout your generations, a servant who is born in the house or who is bought with money from any foreigner, who is not of your descendants. A servant who is born in your house or who is bought with your money shall surely be circumcised; thus shall My covenant be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.””
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭17‬:‭10‬-‭14‬ ‭NASB 1995

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

Verse 13 is addressing the people who heard God speak in Exodus 20 before they got frightened and asked Moses to go speak to Him in private and relay the rest of His commandments to them.

“Then the Lord spoke to you from the midst of the fire; you heard the sound of words, but you saw no form—only a voice. So He declared to you His covenant which He commanded you to perform, that is, the Ten Commandments; and He wrote them on two tablets of stone.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭4‬:‭12‬-‭13‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

The 10 commandments were the only commandments they specifically heard God speak. It’s not saying that the 10 commandments were the only requirements to enter into God’s covenant. Jewish males were absolutely required to be circumcised in order to enter into God’s covenant. That commandment was carried over from God’s covenant with Abraham.

“This is My covenant, which you shall keep, between Me and you and your descendants after you: every male among you shall be circumcised. And you shall be circumcised in the flesh of your foreskin, and it shall be the sign of the covenant between Me and you. And every male among you who is eight days old shall be circumcised throughout your generations, a servant who is born in the house or who is bought with money from any foreigner, who is not of your descendants. A servant who is born in your house or who is bought with your money shall surely be circumcised; thus shall My covenant be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant. But an uncircumcised male who is not circumcised in the flesh of his foreskin, that person shall be cut off from his people; he has broken My covenant.””
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭17‬:‭10‬-‭14‬ ‭NASB 1995

What you refer to about circumcision was part of a covenant other than the one represented by the Ten Commandments. It was part of the Abrahamic Covenant, which predates the giving of the Ten Commandments and the Mosaic Covenant as you know. it's important to note that while the Ten Commandments that GOD declared as the covenant do not explicitly command circumcision, circumcision itself was still a requirement for Israelite males under the Mosaic Law.

Acts 15:5-11 (NKJV):

5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."​

6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.​

7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.​

8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,​

9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.​

10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?​

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."​

In this passages, Peter argues that Gentiles should not be required to follow the Mosaic Law, including circumcision. This indicates that circumcision is not a requirement for salvation or membership in the body of Christ.

 

[BNR32FAN]

What you refer to about circumcision was part of a covenant other than the one represented by the Ten Commandments. It was part of the Abrahamic Covenant, which predates the giving of the Ten Commandments and the Mosaic Covenant as you know. it's important to note that while the Ten Commandments that GOD declared as the covenant do not explicitly command circumcision, circumcision itself was still a requirement for Israelite males under the Mosaic Law.

Acts 15:5-11 (NKJV):

5 But some of the sect of the Pharisees who believed rose up, saying, "It is necessary to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses."​

6 Now the apostles and elders came together to consider this matter.​

7 And when there had been much dispute, Peter rose up and said to them: "Men and brethren, you know that a good while ago God chose among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel and believe.​

8 So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us,​

9 and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.​

10 Now therefore, why do you test God by putting a yoke on the neck of the disciples which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?​

11 But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved in the same manner as they."​

In this passages, Peter argues that Gentiles should not be required to follow the Mosaic Law, including circumcision. This indicates that circumcision is not a requirement for salvation or membership in the body of Christ.

I agree just like Colossians 2:16 and Romans 14 indicate the abolishment of the dietary laws and sabbath observances. Pretty much the exact same situation.

 

[JesusFollowerForever]

I agree just like Colossians 2:16 and Romans 14 indicate the abolishment of the dietary laws and sabbath observances. Pretty much the exact same situation.

you have to understand three are many sabbaths other than the sabbath day found in the Ten Commandments, the Covenant. It is important to understand that Paul here is speaking of these "other" sabbath(s). I am not trying to split hairs here but just telling the truth.

"16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, "

Paul is speaking about three categories:

1. Festivals (feast days) – annual, like Passover or Tabernacles
2. New moons – monthly
3. Sabbaths – yearly sabbaths tied to the feasts

This matches the same categories in 1 Chronicles 23:31,
"Whenever burnt offerings were presented to the LORD on the Sabbath(s), New Moons, and appointed feasts, they were to serve regularly before the LORD in the numbers prescribed for them."

Ezekiel 45:17, And it shall be the prince’s part to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings, and drink offerings for the feasts, New Moons, and Sabbaths—for all the appointed feasts of the house of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings, and peace offerings to make atonement for the house of Israel.

and Hosea 2:11, " I will put an end to all her exultation: her feasts, New Moons, and Sabbaths— all her appointed feasts."

The Sabbath(s) Paul refers to are part of the ceremonial law, which included animal sacrifices, rituals, and shadows that pointed forward to Jesus. These yearly Sabbaths ended with Christ’s death, which fulfilled their meaning (Colossians 2:17 — “which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ”).

Blessings.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

you have to understand three are many sabbaths other than the sabbath day found in the Ten Commandments, the Covenant. It is important to understand that Paul here is speaking of these "other" sabbath(s). I am not trying to split hairs here but just telling the truth.

"16 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, "

Paul is speaking about three categories:

1. Festivals (feast days) – annual, like Passover or Tabernacles
2. New moons – monthly
3. Sabbaths – yearly sabbaths tied to the feasts

This matches the same categories in 1 Chronicles 23:31,
"Whenever burnt offerings were presented to the LORD on the Sabbath(s), New Moons, and appointed feasts, they were to serve regularly before the LORD in the numbers prescribed for them."

Ezekiel 45:17, And it shall be the prince’s part to provide the burnt offerings, grain offerings, and drink offerings for the feasts, New Moons, and Sabbaths—for all the appointed feasts of the house of Israel. He will provide the sin offerings, grain offerings, burnt offerings, and peace offerings to make atonement for the house of Israel.

and Hosea 2:11, " I will put an end to all her exultation: her feasts, New Moons, and Sabbaths— all her appointed feasts."

The Sabbath(s) Paul refers to are part of the ceremonial law, which included animal sacrifices, rituals, and shadows that pointed forward to Jesus. These yearly Sabbaths ended with Christ’s death, which fulfilled their meaning (Colossians 2:17 — “which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ”).

Blessings.

Yes Paul is quoting Ezekiel which spells out which sabbath(s) he is referring to and the feasts, nothing about food, but food offerings and not about the Sabbath commandment that started at Creation Exo 20:11, God's perfect plan, the Sabbath that was also written and spoken by God and the holy day of the Lord Isa 58:13 God’s personal Testimony. Exo 31:18, but the annual sabbath(s) feasts. Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man, so how can the Sabbath be against man. It can't, it was meant to be a blessing Isa 56:2 and a sign of His sanctification Eze 20:12

The Sabbath to Sunday is one of the greatest hoax of all, God warned the whole world would be deceived, but if we listen to Jesus Mark 7:7-13 Mat 15:3-14 Mat 5:19-10 John 14:15 He will lead us on the narrow path back to Him Rev 22:14

 

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I really like this Bible study on Col 2:16

 

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Mrk 2:22 And no one pours new wine into old wineskins. If he does, the wine will burst the skins, and both the wine and the wineskins will be ruined. Instead, new wine is poured into new wineskins.”

When Jesus talked about not putting new wine into old wineskins, He was teaching that the new life and truth He brought could not be forced into the old, rigid ways of religion, hence the letter of the law. The old wineskins represent hearts and minds that are locked in tradition, unable to grow or accept the living truth. The new wine is the fresh, Spirit-filled teaching of Jesus, which brings life and understanding from the heart.

Now, Jesus did not come to destroy God’s commandments. In fact, the commandments remain the unchanging foundation—they are the core of God's will and His covenant. But Jesus came to show their full meaning, to magnify the law and teach how to live it as God always intended—not just by the letter, but by the spirit behind it.

For example:

• The letter says: “Do not murder.” Jesus showed the spirit of that command by teaching us to reject anger, hatred, and insults.
• The letter says: “Do not commit adultery.” Jesus taught us that even lust in the heart breaks that law.
• The letter says: “Keep the Sabbath.” Jesus showed us that the Sabbath is not about cold rules, but about mercy, rest, and doing good.

This is the new wine—not a new law, but a deeper understanding of the same commandments, now alive in the heart through the Holy Spirit. The law is no longer something written only on stone, but written on our hearts. The Spirit gives us a new vision, helping us to see how each command is rooted in love—love for God and love for others.

This is what is explained by Jeremiah and also Paul quoting Jeremiah;

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days are coming, declares the LORD, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah.

Jer 31:32 It will not be like the covenant I made with their fathers when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt— a covenant they broke, though I was a husband to them,” declares the LORD.

Jer 31:33 “But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD. I will put My law in their minds and inscribe it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they will be My people.

To receive this new wine, we must become new wineskins—humble, open, supple and ready to be shaped by truth. Those who cling to the old, hardened way of following rules without heart or mercy cannot hold what Jesus offers. His way is full of life, and it shows us how to truly keep the commandments as they were always meant to be lived.

This is why I asked you before if the new covenant was actually a "new" covenant or a re-newed one. You said it was a new one, but have steadily defended the old as making up the new in this thread.

If it is new, then it has nothing in common with the old.

 

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This is why I asked you before if the new covenant was actually a "new" covenant or a re-newed one. You said it was a new one, but have steadily defended the old as making up the new in this thread.

If it is new, then it has nothing in common with the old.

The New Covenant is established on better promises. So the old, is the "old promises" the new is the better promises.

Heb 8:6 But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises.

Not sure why everyone is so focused on trying to make the covenant about "new laws" when it clearly says that not what its established on. It goes on to say the New Covenant has "God's law" now written in a different place, the heart and mind to become part of who we are. Heb 8:10

The wages of sin is still death in the NC Rom 6:23 and sin is still breaking God's law 1 John 3:4 James 2:11-12 Rom 7:7 so the smart thing we should be doing is how to we get these better promises and keep God's law in our heart so we don't follow all the examples of disobedience we are told not to follow Heb 4:11 so we can be reconciled to God Rev 22:14 because Jesus is coming soon!