It doesn't lie, man does. Rather than man hearing and seeing the message it contains which is 'wow, God created us, aren't we splendid and awesome because He is'? -- man hears and sees the message 'doubt God created anything and imagine that all this is a freaky mess that was not created at all'
Man lies. That is scripture 101. God doesn't. That is Scripture as pure as it gets. He said He is the creator and even told us how He did it. Let God be true but every man a liar.
That is false. We could see the movement of light away from Supernovae 1987a, and see it strike a ring of debris around the supernova.
SN1987A and the Age of the Universe
There was a 7 month lag between the supernova explosion and the illumnination of the rings around the supernova. This means that we measured the speed of light at the supernova by measuring the distance and time it took for light to move between the superonova and the rings of debris around it. All you need is simple trigonometry:
You need evidence, not made up fantasies that start with "perhaps".
The way we calculate it involves seeing how much time it took to, for example go to the other side of the rings ir some such marker I think. The time we see something take here and the time something takes there can only matter if time in both places exists at all, and exists the same way. We also need to know the distances and that also involves time needing to be the same there. Ask someone to prove time is the same there as it is here and see what happens.
I was keeping it simple. If anyone wants to talk nitty gritty start anytime. In the end we will see it amounts to the same thing. Been there done that.
Do you think there is time in our solar system? Space and time? You see, they take a slice of that time, and space...together, and treat it as just space. The base line for any parallax measure includes time. Unless space and time were the same all the way to a star, the so called distance measured would have zero value.
No. Not purely distance. Time exists here and when we take, say, the space earth moves in the solar system in six months, that is a big base line, and it has to include time if time exists here.
When you find it, time will be involved.
Nothing can be done without time. We live in a world where time exists and exists a certain way in relation to space. When we take a swath of space, that is taking time and space..unless you claim they exist independently of each other?
There is that also. But time exists with space! If we took the solar system, for example and held it in our hands if we could we would be holding time and space, not just space. Now when we take a slice of that space and time and represent that slice with a line, the line does not just represent space. We cannot draw a line to the stars and expect all the time and space between will equal the slice from our solar system! Not unless we have some reason, some prrof, some evidence. We don't. If you or anyone else thinks we do..post it!
Velocity involves time! Distance involves time..at least distances here in our solar system. And time involves time. In all ways time is involved.
False. The triangle exists in a computer or paper. Not in actual deep space, except by imagination. t represents time as well as space so we NEED time to exist where the star is also, or the imaginary line cannot and does not equate into distance. Parallax is dead.
That depends in what space and where and if time exists in or with that space as it does here. You don't know that to be the case for deep space.
The distance includes space and space includes time. You cannot separate time from the solar system, it is part of it. Now, prove time is a part of the space around stars and that time is the very same also as here?
We know that time is like and that it exists here. So here where it exists, of course we can get distances.
