Andromeda

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This really just boils down to AV saying that the age of anything can be anything he wants it to be. That's the fundamental long and short of it.

 

[sjastro]

First off, I don't believe the universe is only 6000 years old.

It's as old as God willed it.

Could be thousands, could be millions, could be billions, could be trillions.



Second of all, I don't say everything in science can take a hike.

Only the science that contradicts the Bible, or tries to lower Its standards.

And speaking of standards, here are mine:

1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own

Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.

Now ... take a good long look at #4, and tell me if I'm saying "science can take a hike"?

I will however admit that I'm on record as saying there was not a lick of science involved during the Creation Week.

None ... zero.

BUT, it now looks like I'm appealing to theoretical science to explain how distant starlight shone on the earth before Adam was even created.

So in [pun] light [/pun] of that, I'll admit I may be making an exception. *

And if you want to crucify me for that, get to it.

I'm happy to know that GOD DID IT.

That's good enough for me.

* As I said before, He may or MAY NOT have used theoretical science (miracles?) to bring Andromeda's light to earth.

Every time you trot out this 'standard' you supposedly adhere to always leads to contradiction.

In this case does the Bible tell you anything about the Andromeda galaxy, how its distance is determined by the inverse square law of light intensity with distance? Does it say anything by knowing the absolute brightness of Cepheid variables in the galaxy and their apparent brightness when measured on Earth the distance can be calculated and is found to be around 2.5 million light years?

Of course not which means you are violating your standard No (4) by not accepting the distance and ignoring why wormholes are not the answer.

 

[AV1611VET]

Every time you trot out this 'standard' you supposedly adhere to always leads to contradiction.

I doubt that.

In this case does the Bible tell you anything about the Andromeda galaxy,

Nope.

... how its distance is determined by the inverse square law of light intensity with distance?

Nope.

Does it say anything by knowing the absolute brightness of Cepheid variables in the galaxy and their apparent brightness when measured on Earth the distance can be calculated and is found to be around 2.5 million light years?

Nope.

Of course not which means you are violating your standard No (4) by not accepting the distance ...

Is that why I believe it is 2.537 million light years away?

... and ignoring why wormholes are not the answer.

Don't tell me how it can't be done.

Tell me how it can be done.

Until then, I'll go with wormholes as a theoretical answer.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is that why I believe it is 2.537 million light years away?

But you don't though. You say that you do, but you twist the scientific facts to try and cram them into your very myopic and self-proclaimed interpretation that God created every 6,000 years ago, hence embedded age.

You will literally say anything and everything, as long as it doesn't contradict your interpretation of the Bible. That's what your 'Boolean standards' amount to in the end.

 

[sjastro]

I doubt that.



Nope.



Nope.



Nope.



Is that why I believe it is 2.537 million light years away?



Don't tell me how it can't be done.

Tell me how it can be done.

Until then, I'll go with wormholes as a theoretical answer.

OK I see you are highly confused, apart from confirming your contradiction of standard (4), isn't the whole point of this ridiculous thread to show how science can be reconciled with the creation date of 4004 BC through wormholes?

Do you understand the burden of proof is on you to show how this is done since you are making the claim. It's not up to me to do your the work as I cannot make it any clearer how this premise is absurd.

So it is over to you to explain how wormholes bridges the gap.