Pizza. Large, onions, bell peppers, mushrooms, hamburger, extra black olives, extra cheese. Goes great with Dr. Pepper.Whats your opinion?
What's YOUR opinion on why Christians should let CNN tell them what to say, think or do? Change the channel and let CNN do their own false prophesizing.
Should Christians support the death penalty today? I believe that we must, but with the considerations detailed above.
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An enemy of Jesus is anyone a Christian nation condemns to death.Could you give example of who the enemies of Jesus are?
How do you think Jesus would feel about this?
Don't you think Jesus wanting people killed in front of him, contradicts how he is portrayed in most of the NT?
A Christian nation is any nation where a majority of its citizens are Christians.How do you define whether a nation is Christian or not?
I am satisfied with the way the US carries out the death sentence, both in the courts and on the battlefield. Jesus is pleased too, otherwise He would not let the US rule the world as the earth's only superpower. We bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.What if someone does not believe Jesus was God, are they an enemy of Jesus as well and should be put to death?
A Christian nation is any nation where a majority of its citizens are Christians.
I am satisfied with the way the US carries out the death sentence, both in the courts and on the battlefield. Jesus is pleased too, otherwise He would not let the US rule the world as the earth's only superpower. We bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.
The US often intervenes in non-Christian nations, and those who do not wish to harm the US are left alone. I would not live in a state where the death penalty is not a deterant.Ok. There are many nations where the majority of the population are not Christian. In your opinion, what should the US do about the population in those countries?
Lastly, you are aware, that capital punishment has been abolished by some states. What do you think the US should do about that?
The US often intervenes in non-Christian nations, and those who do not wish to harm the US are left alone. I would not live in a state where the death penalty is not a deterant.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21:12&version=ESV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus+24:17&version=ESV
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+21:17&version=ESV
(edited quote only to reduce post size)The vast majority of experts in this field, do not believe the death penalty is a deterent.
The survey relied on questionnaires completed by the most pre-eminent criminologists in the country, including Fellows in the American Society of Criminology; winners of the American Society of Criminology’s prestigious Southerland Award; and recent presidents of the American Society of Criminology. Respondents were not asked for their personal opinion about the death penalty, but instead to answer on the basis of their understandings of the empirical research.
Facts about Deterrence and the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center
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It is no deterant when the execution is a life time away from the crime. 20 yrs after the crime is not justice.
Someone thinking of murder will see:
1. they might not get caught, but if they do:
2. average sentence for killing someone is less then 8yrs?
3. they might not get the death sentence.
4. if they do get the death sentence, they will probably not actually get the punishment.
5. They will have lived more time in prison then out by the time they are executed. (Most murderers are under 25 yrs old.)
What is the statute of limitations? less then 15yrs for ost crimes. Why? Because people forget, evidence lost, people go on with their lives. Biggest is people forget. They forget the emotions of the crime, they forget the pain of the family. They only see the pathetic puppy dog face with crocodile tears of the condemned. They don't see the violent bloody face of the victim.
Any execution past 5yrs is not real justice. There has to be a limit to appeals and delays for any deterence to be realized.
As I said, limit it to the most horrible crimes, for the worst offenders, but carry out the sentence within 5 yrs.
Saying that the Old Testament justifies murder is problematic for several reasons:
1. If we start basing our laws off of Levitical law, where do we draw the line? I know it gets brought up in every thread on this subject, but does that mean that laws permitting the stoning of disobedient children become justified also?
2. Our government is Constitutionally required to remain religiously neutral. Thus, basing our justifications (rationalizations) for the death penalty is an intermingling of two things that should be separate: church and state.
3. The Bible also says, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and "vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord". As much as you can find rationalizations for putting criminals to death, you can find an equal number of verses saying the opposite.
Ringo
The US often intervenes in non-Christian nations, and those who do not wish to harm the US are left alone. I would not live in a state where the death penalty is not a deterant.
There is a problem with some of that reasoning. Capital punishment for murder is not Levitical Law. It was the law, in fact the ONLY law, given to Noah. And the wording of it is not individualized, but generalized in a way to include all of humanity, not a particular nation as the Levitical Law was.
Christ could have just as easily said on Golgotha, "Let him that is without sin drive the first nail." He had the authority to do that. And if He had, He would have had several legions of angels to insure that was done. However, He recognized governmental authority to exercise capital punishment when He said to Pilate, "You could not have any power over me unless it were given to you from above." In obedience to that authority which His Father had given, He did not struggle or even object. And He allowed Himself to be crucified, according to governmental law.
What's really interesting is that you apparently don't understand why Christ died. Who can expect you to understand the rest of the Bible?Really interesting that you'd bring up the Crucifixion to justify the death penalty, as Jesus' crucifixion was a travesty of justice based on trumped up charges. So it's a bit strange to use that as proof that the death penalty is OK.
Ringo