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Whats your opinion?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by ForJesusChrist, May 1, 2014.

  1. Supreme

    Supreme British

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    I have mixed feelings on the death penalty, and can sympathise with both sides of the argument.
     
  2. Belk

    Belk Senior Member

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    Ah, the old "people die anyways so we should continue to kill innocents" argument. :confused:
     
  3. Smidlee

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    The objective of the death penalty is not to kill innocent people no more than automobiles are designed to kill people.
     
  4. Belk

    Belk Senior Member

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    Comparing car accidents to a deliberate process were someone is killed is disingenuous. It is not like there are no alternatives that we could come up with.
     
  5. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    Wrong. Jesus rules through Christian nations (anywhere Christians are in the majority). Washington DC is a throne of Jesus.
     
  6. StephanieSomer

    StephanieSomer Regular Member

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    Seems strange that God couldn't come up with a viable alternative, but you can.
     
  7. Belk

    Belk Senior Member

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    Yeah, that does seem strange. I would think an all powerful deity would not be out done by his creation but there you go. Bonus points to me I guess.
     
  8. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    Who decides whether a nation is Christian or not? Is it the Pew or Gallup polls people engage in when they self identify as following a certain religion?
     
  9. Kalevalatar

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    Matthew 25: The Sheep and the Goats
     
  10. TheReasoner

    TheReasoner Former christian, current teapot agnostic.

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    Ironically, that parable would, arguably, make the least religious nations on the earth (Scandinavia) the most christian ones.
     
  11. Supreme

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    Scandinavia is heavily culturally Christian, and Christians still come out as the majority in censuses. Just very few Scandinavians take religion that serious any more is all.
     
  12. TheReasoner

    TheReasoner Former christian, current teapot agnostic.

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    Christians come out ahead in censuses in large part because of the cultural heritage. Furthermore, other countries have longer and far more deeply engrained christian culture and heritages than Scandinavia. Yet none of those come close to the same level of equality, humanitarian dedication and compassion as Scandinavia does, judging by the statistics.

    We are still left with the most areligious countries on the planet being the most deserving of being said to represent the gifts of the spirit which christians are supposed to embody. Moreover, if you pop by statemaster.com and check statistics related to these fruits of the spirit you will find an inverse correlation within the US with respect to faith density and the fruits. The more religious and conservative a state is, the less it embodies the fruits christians are supposed to embody - statistically speaking. Why is that? And why does the same trend appear internationally?

    Sure, correlation does not imply causation, but the claim that more faith equals more goodness appears to not be supported by this correlation. If this were so then at the very least countries with longer and more deeply felt connections to christianity should manifest a significantly more prominent fulfilment of the fruits, on average. This is not the case. Why not?
    Here's a guess: Christianity is just another man-made religion with no basis in a divinity or spiritual reality. Jesus may have been real, and his teachings (Not Paul's) are quite good. For the most part, the whole 'hate your family' thing (Luke 14:26) is not too good if taken literally. But that he had some good ideas does not mean the religion is true, lock stock and barrel.
     
    Last edited: May 9, 2014
  13. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    Who am I to judge? If a person says they are a Christian, that's good enough for me. But ultimately it's up to God. Since 312 AD, God only lets Christian nations have dominion over the earth, and if the US were not a Christian nation, we would not be ruling the earth.
     
  14. Paradoxum

    Paradoxum Liberty, Equality, Solidarity!

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    Perhaps you're right.
     
  15. StephanieSomer

    StephanieSomer Regular Member

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    We rule the earth? Really? WOW.
     
  16. bhsmte

    bhsmte Newbie

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    Who are you to judge? I don't know, for someone who claims the enemies of Jesus should be killed, I got the feeling judging others, sort of came natural to you.
     
  17. Smidlee

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    You are still referring to the innocent right? Are you saying the death penalty is deliberately design to kill innocent people? Justice and freedom has a heavy price tag.
     
  18. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    As the earth's only superpower, we police the earth. Our weapons bring hell and death to the enemies of Jesus.
     
  19. interpreter

    interpreter Senior Member

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    What's your problem? We are clearly commanded to kill the enemies of Jesus, and that's what the US does. The point is, Jesus is OK with the death penalty.
     
  20. revanneosl

    revanneosl Mystically signifying since 1985

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    Wow, you really worship an entirely different Jesus from the Jesus I worship.
     
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