Scriptural Baptism

[Ain't Zwinglian]

You should have done the search on Google to research "present-historical tense".
If one presents a prior occurrence, he can use the present tense perspective to describe his prior feelings and reactions while they were happening.

I am ALWAYS wary when anybody under any circumstance uses the rhetorical statement: 'WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THIS, IT MEANS THAT.

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

faith for redemption

redemption without faith is universalism. Major problem for Baptists.

 

[Hoping2]

I am ALWAYS wary when anybody under any circumstance uses the rhetorical statement: 'WHEN THE BIBLE SAYS THIS, IT MEANS THAT.

Wariness is good when considering anything new.

Please Google "present-historical tense".

 

[Hoping2]

redemption without faith is universalism. Major problem for Baptists.

What is anyone redeemed from ?
Sin? The penalty for sin? Servitude to satan? Bondage to the Law?
Since babies have nothing to be redeemed from, their destruction is prevented.

 

[Ain't Zwinglian]

Since babies have nothing to be redeemed from, their destruction is prevented.

Chapter and verse for sinlessness and guiltnessness please.

 

[Hoping2]

Chapter and verse for sinlessness and guiltnessness please.

Rom 2:5-9..."5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil,"

Indignation, wrath, tribulation, and anguish, are reserved for those who "doeth evil".

 

[WordSword]

All who continue to satisfy the "flesh", have not been reborn of Godly seed.

Amen!!

 

[WordSword]

Beloved Brother in Christ,​

Thank you for such a thorough post and for quoting respected Christian thinkers such as Dr. Kenneth Wuest and Miles J. Stanford. Many of the thoughts shared are profound and resonate with biblical truths. However, in our love for truth and in line with Acts 17:11, let’s be Bereans examining everything by the Word of God to see whether these things are so.

Let’s walk together in grace and truth, while highlighting some theological errors, clarifying confusing statements, and reaffirming what Scripture actually says about spiritual baptism, water baptism, and union with Christ.

Hi Brother Waris! It's good to know a Brother like you because you are much into the truth of the Word! Many believers do not read and study the Word much. Though they're still saved they are weak in the faith. The more we study the Word, the stronger our faith becomes; and faith always goes forward and never backward.

God's blessings to your Family!!

 

[WordSword]

Why wasn't your "old man" destroyed like Paul's ?

I just wanted to share this with you from Bible commentator John Gill, he's a classic teacher.

"sinneth not;" not that he has no sin in him, or lives without sin, but he does not live in sin (Ro 8:9), nor give up himself to a vicious course of life; for this would be inconsistent with his dwelling in Christ, and enjoying communion with him:

"whosoever sinneth;" which is not to be understood of a single action, but of a course of sinning:

"hath not seen him, neither known him;" that is, he has never seen Christ with an eye of faith; he has never truly and spiritually seen the glory, beauty, fulness, and suitableness of Christ, his need, and the worth of him; he has never seen him so as to enjoy him, and have communion with him; for what communion hath Christ with Belial, or light with darkness, or righteousness with unrighteousness? 2 Corinthians 6:14, nor has he ever savingly known him, or been experimentally acquainted with him; for though he may profess to know him in words, he denies him in works.

1 John 3 Bible Commentary - John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible | Christianity.com

Study 1 John 3 using John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible to better understand Scripture with full outline and verse meaning.

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[pastorwaris]

Hi Brother Waris! It's good to know a Brother like you because you are much into the truth of the Word! Many believers do not read and study the Word much. Though they're still saved they are weak in the faith. The more we study the Word, the stronger our faith becomes; and faith always goes forward and never backward.

God's blessings to your Family!!

Dear beloved brother in Christ,

Thank you so much for your kind and encouraging words! It truly blessed my heart to read your message. I'm deeply humbled, and I give all the glory to our Lord Jesus Christ, who continues to open His Word to us through the Holy Spirit.

You're absolutely right the more we study the Word, the stronger and more rooted we become in our faith. It’s not just about knowledge, but about deepening our relationship with the Living God. And yes, genuine faith always moves forward pressing on toward the mark (Philippians 3:14), growing in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Savior (2 Peter 3:18).

I'm thankful to walk this journey alongside faithful brothers like you who hunger for truth. May the Lord continue to bless you richly and use you mightily. Please also extend my love and prayers to your family.

Grace and peace to you in abundance,
Brother Waris

 

[pastorwaris]

Chapter and verse please for this definition of baptism.

Yes! Sure, Dear brother,
Thank you for your question: “Chapter and verse please for this definition of baptism.”
You asked this in response to the statement: “It’s the public celebration of a personal transformation that already happened the moment one believed in Christ.”

Here are the Scriptures:

Acts 10:47-48
“Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?” And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord.

They were baptized after receiving the Holy Spirit.

Acts 8:36-38
“See, here is water! What hinders me from being baptized?” Then Philip said, “If you believe with all your heart, you may.” And he answered and said, “I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

Faith preceded baptism.

Galatians 3:26-27
“For you are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.”

Baptism is tied to our public identification with Christ, but sonship comes through faith.

Romans 6:3-4
“Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? ... that just as Christ was raised from the dead... even so we also should walk in newness of life.”

Water baptism pictures the transformation that has already taken place.

Colossians 2:12
“Buried with Him in baptism, in which you also were raised with Him through faith in the working of God, who raised Him from the dead.”

Raised through faith, not through baptism itself.
Blessings in Christ,
Pastor Waris,
Scripture interprets Scripture

 

[WordSword]

"who continues to open His Word to us through the Holy Spirit."

Amen, the Spirit is the Author of God's Word (2Pe 1:21), and the Teacher of the Word (as you said - 1Co 2:13).

I'm thankful to walk this journey alongside faithful brothers like you who hunger for truth.

Yes, it's a constant huger only God gives, and only spiritual growth in Christ results by the Spirit of the Father. Since it's no longer a salvation issue, it's now all about growth.

Love You Brother

 

[pastorwaris]

Amen, the Spirit is the Author of God's Word (2Pe 1:21), and the Teacher of the Word (as you said - 1Co 2:13).


Yes, it's a constant huger only God gives, and only spiritual growth in Christ results by the Spirit of the Father. Since it's no longer a salvation issue, it's now all about growth.

Love You Brother

My Dear brother, I truly felt that in my spirit.
Yes, that kind of hunger you described is something only God can satisfy, and how beautiful it is to see you recognizing that true growth comes by the Holy Spirit not by our own effort. That awareness is the sign of someone who’s growing deeper in Christ. That’s maturity rooted in grace.

What you said hit home:
“It’s no longer a salvation issue it’s about growth.”
Exactly! We’re not trying to earn salvation, we’re living and growing because we’ve already received it. That’s the beauty and power of grace.

“So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live your lives in Him, rooted and built up in Him…” Colossians 2:6–7 (NIV)

I love you too, brother. And I want to encourage you keep walking, keep growing, and keep your heart open to where God is leading you. There is so much more ahead for you.

If you're involved in ministry work, I would honestly be honored to have a brother in Christ like you walk alongside me in the mission to win souls for Jesus. Let’s labor together in love, boldness, and unity for the Kingdom. Please let me know I'd be blessed to serve alongside you.

Let’s continue lifting each other up and encouraging one another in the faith. You're not alone in this journey. I'm with you, and more importantly, so is our Lord.

Grace and peace to you, in Jesus’ mighty name!
Pastor Waris,