What proof would you need? (2)

[jpcedotal]

I know this was not directed to me- but it might as well have been me.

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You think everything in the bible is true?
YES

Well go and kill some working people on sunday then if your bible says so.. or?
You do not know what the Bible teaches. That's ok, the Bible was written for believers, not unbelievers. Nothing in it will make sense, until you receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior. I don't expect you to agree or even understand what is in the Bible. The only person you should be focused on is Jesus Christ.

And no, if a godlike figure appeared before all of us I would look for alternative explanations, but if no such explanation could be found I would be inclined to think it really was a godlike figure.

What if He told you to follow Him, to publicly admit that He was your Lord. Would you be inclined to do that?

Get rid of this notion that non-believers/atheists/whatever deny for the sake of denying. We don't. We just don't think there is any evidence for any religion being true.

Yet, you put your complete faith in the evidences of man, right?...though I am sure you haven't researched evolution yourself with the same pessimism you have with God. Have you at least tried to see if there might be some weak points in this evolution religion, I mean worldview?

 

[jpcedotal]

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Really? So what's the explanation for the reduction in ozone concentration and why has it recoved since the ban on CFCs?

Everything I have read has shown that iT fluctuates up and down...you know the same way it was doing before and has been doing since it was first discovered and measured...better check your facts.

Of course, you gotta get off the purely liberal websites. try to find one that uses real science.

FOLLOW THE MONEY

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Why, thank you! I'll take that as a compliment!

If it makes you happy to know that none of your thoughts is your own, fine. I think it's something of a shame though that you have to live in an imposed fantasy world, however satisfying you find it.

 

[jpcedotal]

By whom, dare I ask?

The ones who control the world economies...the money.

 

[AV1611VET]

Your god is omnipotent, so why let satan defeat him?

His own Words would defeat Him.

If there was a god he would perhaps consider revealing himself on CNN or something.

How about if He shows up and heals the sick, raises the dead, walks on water, dies on a Cross and resurrects after three days?

Would that be convincing enough?

Would shouting from the sky do it?

John 12:29 The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.

Would ruling and reigning on the earth for 1000 years in His own kingdom do it?

Revelation 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
Revelation 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

I'm convinced that God appearing on CNN would just make it worse.

 

[AV1611VET]

And no, if a godlike figure appeared before all of us I would look for alternative explanations, but if no such explanation could be found I would be inclined to think it really was a godlike figure.

You mean to tell me you would not consider God being an extraterrestrial from another planet?

 

[begt]

What weak points with evolution? I have one year left until I get my masters degree in Conservation biology, so I would like to know what you consider "weak points"...

"Nothing in it will make sense, until you receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior."

That means giving up on critical thinking.

What if He told you to follow Him, to publicly admit that He was your Lord. Would you be inclined to do that?

Revelations do not amount to any evidence. Go to your local mental hospital. I'm sure youll find someone claiming to be Napoleon Bonaparte (or similar).

 

[Psudopod]

Everything I have read has shown that is fluctuates up and down...you know the same way it was doing before and has been doing since it was first discovered and measured...better check your facts.

Of course, you gotta get off the purely liberal websites. try to find one that uses real science.

FOLLOW THE MONEY

Maybe you can show me one of these websites, because everywhere I've looked, the science is pretty clear, that ozone deplation happened rapidly and only restricting the emitions of these chemicals has had an effect. For example -
Environmental Indicators: Ozone Depletion | Ozone Layer Protection | US EPA

Bear in mind we are not speculating about CFCs and free radical chemistry. This is a well understood reaction.

 

[jpcedotal]

If it makes you happy to know that none of your thoughts is your own, fine. I think it's something of a shame though that you have to live in an imposed fantasy world, however satisfying you find it.

Your whole belief system is based off of denial, which is why most you posts are full of sarcasm and pessimism and condescension and even a little hate.

Is that the way you want everyone to be?

I will take blind faith any day. I am at peace, I am happy, AND I can pray to my God....for you...I know that He will give you every opportunity to come to Him and know the love that I know, the love every believer knows.

 

[begt]

You mean to tell me you would not consider God being an extraterrestrial from another planet?

Depends on how you define godlike. I'm sure that if any extraterrestrials were able to travel to our planet we'd regard them as godlike (very advanced technology-wise).

 

[jpcedotal]

What weak points with evolution? I have one year left until I get my masters degree in Conservation biology, so I would like to know what you consider "weak points"...

"Nothing in it will make sense, until you receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior."

That means giving up on critical thinking.

What if He told you to follow Him, to publicly admit that He was your Lord. Would you be inclined to do that?

Revelations do not amount to any evidence. Go to your local mental hospital. I'm sure youll find someone claiming to be Napoleon Bonaparte (or similar).

No, I am talking about YOU. What if the physical Jesus Christ spoke to YOU...would YOU call Him LORD?

Not a revelation, an actual experience.

 

[Greg1234]

I wonder where bimbo is. Oh where oh where oh where is bimbo? Where can bimbo be?

 

[jpcedotal]

Depends on how you define godlike. I'm sure that if any extraterrestrials were able to travel to our planet we'd regard them as godlike (very advanced technology-wise).

That's is the next step in the evolution worldview. Once an intelligent being can no longer be ignored as the "force" behind it all, instead of turning to God, atheists will turn to the stars.

 

[Psudopod]

I wonder where bimbo is. Oh where oh where oh where is bimbo? Where can bimbo be?

If you say his name 3 times another sock-puppet is spawned. Stop that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes.

No, it's not -- let me correct you with basic doctrine.

I said:

Well, when the Antichrist gets here ... that will change.

The Tribulation period will be a 7-year period, starting with the Rapture and ending with Armageddon.

The first 3½ years will consist of peace, but the second half will consist of the Antichrist breaking his peace-pact with Israel and mandating the Mark of the Beast.

3½ years later, Jesus will show up and put an end to it all.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Your whole belief system is based off of denial, which is why most you posts are full of sarcasm and pessimism and condescension and even a little hate.

Is that the way you want everyone to be?

I will take blind faith any day. I am at peace, I am happy, AND I can pray to my God....for you...I know that He will give you every opportunity to come to Him and know the love that I know, the love every believer knows.

Just like He does all the children who die in infancy you mean?

 

[AV1611VET]

What nonsense...believe anything because it has "science" in it? There are plenty of incomplete/unsatisfying scientific studies made. Atheists nor any group in particular thinks science has all the answers. But at least science is working on the problem and constantly improving our understanding.

And science runs on the No True Scotsman principle.

That means that it would not be considered 'science' unless it was officially sanctioned by ... well ... scientists.

So anything with the official scientific seal (soon to be the number 666), will be considered 'science', and anything without it will not.

 

[Greg1234]

If you say his name 3 times another sock-puppet is spawned. Stop that.

Well I'll say shadow instead.

Where Oh Where Is Shadow?? =) - YouTube

 

[begt]

No, I am talking about YOU. What if the physical Jesus Christ spoke to YOU...would YOU call Him LORD?

Not a revelation, an actual experience.

First, I would try to determine who this character was. If it truly was Jesus I'd ask where he had been all these years, in hiding and expecting others believe he existed.

I'd ask if he approved of everything in the old testament and why he sacrificed himself on the cross and "died for our sins" (twisted evil stuff). I wouldnt call such a character "lord".

Of course this will never happen but assuming it would.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

And science runs on the No True Scotsman principle.

That means that it would not be considered 'science' unless it was officially sanctioned by ... well ... scientists.

So anything with the official scientific seal (soon to be the number 666), will be considered 'science', and anything without it will not.

Is associating science with satan within forum rules?