What proof would you need? (2)

[jpcedotal]

What does Satan think his "Ace in the hole" is? I mean, surely he has a copy of the Bible and only an Atheist is too self absorbed to see the writing on the wall. I mean, one thing I know for sure, Satan ain't no Atheist though he is their god. He has seen and experienced just about every event written down in the Bible and knows it is all true, so where does he think is the loop hole?

When Christ died and went to hell and took the keys to hell that pretty much signaled "game over". So what is Satan still trying to accomplish?

I have an idea, but I just want to hear what u think AV1611VET.

 

[Gath]

Evolution is a worldview at best, and an anti-God religion at worst.

If it's a worldview at best, how come so many scientists (biologists, in particular) agree with it? Do you think it's 'the religion of science?' Because if you do, you're fooling yourself.

Evolution is true. End of story. There's a huge amount of evidence for it and none against it. Denying evolution, in this day and age, is like denying the Holocaust.

 

[AV1611VET]

What does Satan think his "Ace in the hole" is? I mean, surely he has a copy of the Bible and only an Atheist is too self absorbed to see the writing on the wall. I mean, one thing I know for sure, Satan ain't no Atheist though he is their god. He has seen and experienced just about every event written down in the Bible and knows it is all true, so where does he think is the loop hole?

When Christ died and went to hell and took the keys to hell that pretty much signaled "game over". So what is Satan still trying to accomplish?

I have an idea, but I just want to hear what u think AV1611VET.

If Satan can get just one prophecy of the Bible to fail, then he can defeat God.

He is banking on the fact that Israel will refuse the Messiah to the end; as Zechariah puts it:

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

 

[Mr Strawberry]

That nuttiness will go on for 3.5 years, until Jesus comes back and puts an end to it.

He will then set up His millennial kingdom which, of course, will be creation-oriented.

But at the end of that time (i.e., after 1000 years), the unregenerate nations will launch a global invasion of His kingdom; and He will put an end to all opposition once and for all.

Sorry? 3.5 years? Jesus is coming back in 3.5 years? Is that an actual prediction?

 

[jpcedotal]

If it's a worldview at best, how come so many scientists (biologists, in particular) agree with it? Do you think it's 'the religion of science?' Because if you do, you're fooling yourself.

Evolution is true. End of story. There's a huge amount of evidence for it and none against it. Denying evolution, in this day and age, is like denying the Holocaust.

I think the ozone layer hoax and man-made global warning hoax has shown that many scientists can get together and be completely wrong either unintentionally or intentionally.

 

[jpcedotal]

If Satan can get just one prophecy of the Bible to fail, then he can defeat God.

He is banking on the fact that Israel will refuse the Messiah to the end; as Zechariah puts it:

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

That makes sense. I was thinking that Satan is still thinking he can get one entire generation to not believe in God...eventually.

Someone once said we are only one generation away from total atheism because all it would take is for one generation to not teach their child who God is.

I think Satan believes this is possible and to him, even if the lake of fire is in his future no matter what, he would laugh all the way to the edge knowing he stole the world at the end.

This thinking kind of falls in line with the Book of Job. That same thought process Satan has there, I think is the same thought process he has for the entire world today.

 

[Mr Strawberry]

If there is any doubt about the effects of indoctrination one need only read the previous 2 posts.

 

[Psudopod]

I think the ozone layer hoax and man-made global warning hoax has shown that many scientists can get together and be completely wrong either unintentionally or intentionally.

The ozone layer is definitely not a hoax, it's a very vital part of what keeps as alive! And global warming is not a hoax either. There's room for debate on the details, but the climate is warming globally and in line with the output of greenhouse gas based pollution from humans.

 

[begt]

If Satan can get just one prophecy of the Bible to fail, then he can defeat God.

Your god is omnipotent, so why let satan defeat him?

If there was a god he would perhaps consider revealing himself on CNN or something. That's much more intelligent than passing on information in a book that has been translated over and over again (and certainly some of the original intent has been lost). This whole notion that a god supposedly exists, and expects us to believe one out of a large number of so called holy texts makes no sense. Why take anything on faith (especially not important matters), it is gullibility.

 

[jpcedotal]

If there is any doubt about the effects of indoctrination one need only read the previous 2 posts.

By knowing what happens at the end of time, makes it easier to work back to the beginning of time.

To Christians, this is where our peace comes from, our hope. We know with absolutely no doubt that Christ is coming back and every knee will bend and every head will bow...

...but still there will be those who will see Christ, who will realize everything in the Bible is true, and WILL STILL SAY NO.

Is that you? Are you so wrapped up the the hate for "ignorant Christians" that even Jesus Christ himself coming back to earth would not make you recognize Him as LORD?

Will you tell Jesus, face to face,....no...if this were to "really" happen; that what Christians have been preaching for centuries is actually true?

Would that change your mind? Christ himself says it won't for many.

 

[jpcedotal]

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The ozone layer is definitely not a hoax, it's a very vital part of what keeps as alive! And global warming is not a hoax either. There's room for debate on the details, but the climate is warming globally and in line with the output of greenhouse gas based pollution from humans.

The ozone layer itself is real, but the whole freon debacle was not. Follow the money on both issues and you will see that both had zero to do with science.

 

[begt]

By knowing what happens at the end of time, makes it easier to work back to the beginning of time.

To Christians, this is where our peace comes from, our hope. We know with absolutely no doubt that Christ is coming back and every knee will bend and every head will bow...

...but still there will be those who will see Christ, who will realize everything in the Bible is true, and WILL STILL SAY NO.

I know this was not directed to me- but it might as well have been me.

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You think everything in the bible is true? Well go and kill some working people on sunday then if your bible says so.. or?

And no, if a godlike figure appeared before all of us I would look for alternative explanations, but if no such explanation could be found I would be inclined to think it really was a godlike figure.

Get rid of this notion that non-believers/atheists/whatever deny for the sake of denying. We don't. We just don't think there is any evidence for any religion being true.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry? 3.5 years? Jesus is coming back in 3.5 years? Is that an actual prediction?

Is that what I said?

 

[jpcedotal]

Science was given an end result and told to make the facts and evidence fall in line. It is atheists that are so gullible. Ya'll will believe anything if it has the word science attached to it or better yet, does not have God attached it.

If aint "God did it" it must be true, right? That's called blind faith...in man.

 

[Psudopod]

Science was given an end result and told to make the facts and evidence fall in line. It is atheists that are so gullible. Ya'll will believe anything if it has the word science attached to it or better yet, does not have God attached it.

By whom, dare I ask?

 

[Mr Strawberry]

Is that what I said?

Yes.

 

[begt]

Science was given an end result and told to make the facts and evidence fall in line. It is atheists that are so gullible. Ya'll will believe anything if it has the word science attached to it or better yet, does not have God attached it.

If aint "God did it" it must be true, right? That's called blind faith...in man.

What nonsense...believe anything because it has "science" in it? There are plenty of incomplete/unsatisfying scientific studies made. Atheists nor any group in particular thinks science has all the answers. But at least science is working on the problem and constantly improving our understanding.

 

[Psudopod]

The ozone layer itself is real, but the whole freon debacle was not.

Really? So what's the explanation for the reduction in ozone concentration and why has it recoved since the ban on CFCs?

 

[AV1611VET]

That makes sense.

I read that in Israel My Glory magazine years ago.

If I remember the story correctly, I believe it takes place at the end of the Tribulation.

The Battle of Armageddon is going on, and Jesus returns and sets foot on the Mount of Olives, which cleaves in two.

At this point, Satan attempts to claim victory, stating that Jesus has returned, yet the prediction in Zechariah* never came to pass, and Israel has never accepted Him as the Messiah.

* Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

At this point though, all Israel sees Him 'Whom they have pierced', and to Satan's horror, the entire nation sees Him for Who He really is, and actually mourns!

Halleujah!

 

[AV1611VET]

If there is any doubt about the effects of indoctrination one need only read the previous 2 posts.

Why, thank you! I'll take that as a compliment!