What is the purpose of the Sabbath?

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I am not trying to be discouraging questions about one's faith, but I was showing you how in scripture one did not ask God His purpose in order to be obedient. I have been providing scriptures on the Sabbath from both the law perspective and from the purpose perspective, but you reject those scriptures and prefer to take one's opinions from people who argue against the Sabbath than from people who keep the Sabbath and are answering your questions directly from scripture. That is your free will, but if one is really trying to understand what God's intent is, you will only find your answer in God's Word, not from opinions from said non-Sabbath keepers.

That said, the first part of the Sabbath commandment is "Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy" Exodus 20:8 so its more than just resting from our works, which if one will allow, the scriptures will reveal itself through scripture including the Sabbath which scripture has been provided in this thread.
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Happy Sabbath friend! Faith does not require purpose does it? As if we need to understand is a fallacy and prideful in respect to God’s will. What kind of understanding could have Abraham understood while he was about to sacrifice Isaac?
 
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Happy Sabbath friend! Faith does not require purpose does it? As if we need to understand is a fallacy and prideful in respect to God’s will. What kind of understanding could have Abraham understood why he was about to sacrifice Isaac?
Faith is absolute trust in God and obeying even if we do not understand, like Abraham did with Isaac. God still tests and gives us trials, having a strong foundation of trust and faith in God even in tough times is vital.

Happy Sabbath my friend! :)
 
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"Son of man, eat that thou findest; eat this roll, and go speak unto the house of Israel." (Ezek 3:1)

Sabbath is for Scripture Portion (Parashat, Parashat Mishpatim): פרשת השבוע - Torah Readings for this week

Shabbat > Parashah: Torah (Law) + Haftarah (Prophets) + Brit Chadasha (New Covenant)

B'rit Chadasha or NT: Gospel/Acts (corresponding to Torah), Letters (corresponding to Ketuvim), and Revelation (corresponding to Nevi'im) Brit Chadashah - the New Covenant

It reminded me that Sabbath is also a marker or identifier, of identity in Christ. But also a 'home' or shelter in the most abstract and spiritual sense. Both available anywhere in the world, regardless of circumstance. Regardless if there's war in Jerusalem or say one's church/synagogue has been destroyed in Ukraine (prayers). Per chronology (as a science), Sabbath is invulnerable to devices of Satan, world powers, or corrupt clergy, in alteration of calendars (e.g. Roman deities, or nationalism, monarchism, capitalism), systems, and physical or non-physical imprisonment. Sabbath is invulnerable to say Covid restrictions, political imprisonment, and gulags. --- Political prisoners are often incarcerated for many years, and you'll find stories about desperate attempts to mark time/days (darkness and sunlight), whilst guards use social isolation and noise (statis noise, water dripping, loud heavy metal music), as torture to dehumanise a person. But Sabbath has no regard for human "years", measuring time simply day by day, and weeks in sevens. Hence Christ said "take no thought for your life".

"A minister of the sanctuary (hagion), and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man." (Heb 8:2) --- Sabbath is an opportunity to enter into God's holiness, not man-made religion. Relating to Christ referencing David, precedentially and metaphorically.

Hagion (ἅγιον) meaning "of things which on account of some connection with God possess a certain distinction and claim to reverence, as places sacred to God which are not to be profaned... the temple... the holy land... specifically that part of the temple or tabernacle which is called 'the holy place' ... the most hallowed portion of the temple, 'the holy of holies,' ... figuratively of heaven,” (Thayers, G39 - hagion - Strong's Greek Lexicon (kjv)) --- Hence "Sabbath journey" is not necessarily physical, e.g. driving to church. It's a journey turning inward, heaven bound. Spiritual travel: Bridging the chasm between man's sin and God's sinlessness. Via Christ.

Hence Christ said,

"Have ye not read what David did, when he was an hungred, and they that were with him; How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests? Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless? But I say unto you, That in this place is one greater than the temple." (Mt 12:3-5)

"In this place", this "sanctuary" (hagion), captures the essential "greatness" of Sabbath. To "enter" into Sabbath or eternal rest.

Conceptually, it's like a spiritual wormhole (can't think of a better word) linking man to the Kingdom of Heaven. Far superior to any dogmatic or religious reasons for observance, simply to "obey". No, it's more than that. Royal priesthood of believers are as exempt, having jurisdiction/control over our own bodies which make up the Temple of God. Therefore, control of the body/mind/spirit is worship, is trust and obedience, and to make spiritual offering from the heart. It's self-regulation, self-control, self-sacrifice. "Laying one's life down". Meaning that the Sabbath ordinance is a form of grace, not Mosaic legalism by letter of the law. Believers are exempt from "profaning the sabbath", be it in obedience or disobedience, which is what the OP originally refers to: Of the heart, taking up thy cross daily.

Although the Sabbath has a special/holy place (in designation), it isn't arbitrary as our doctrines tell us but rather it's flexible, in service of man (as object or beneficiary of 'Sabbath'). In our physical and spiritual needs. As followers of Christ are akin to men following David, the Sabbath is a time to nourish us when we are most hungry, desperate, ravenous, destitute, from the pains of this world. And the form of that nourishment is "rest" in his sanctuary (not monastery), having food: physical and spiritual.

I would go so far as to say that violation of the Decalogue, "Thou shalt not steal" for example, say in Dickensian times of extreme poverty, is exempted during the Sabbath. Being the Lord's rest. But only if out of genuine necessity, desperation. Say to trespass on to someone's land to pick (steal) fruit that belongs to the owner of the field. To feed oneself and family. As proven in this passage and elsewhere in Shmita law, for refugees and sojourners. Which we all people are until actual entry into the Kingdom of Heaven. Again, which is the 'hope' we have from Sabbath observance. Say for Ukrainians fleeing their homes now. Where there's no civilised "working week". But for those living in Jerusalem in times of peace or a rural Christian commune, then ofc breach of Sabbath law is obv violation being open rebellion against God, whilst everyone else is in line. Context and circumstance. Each case differs.

Strict legal Sabbath observance says to gather a "double portion" in preparation for Sabbath; and violation results in capital punishment. But Christ did away with "the curse (penalty) of the law", making the law no longer a ceremonial/ritual legal mandate but a moral law or imperative, as 'encouragement' as it were to do God's will. Where judgement/punishment is deferred to Final Judgement (not annual, i.e. Yom Kippur, no one is or has been "consumed by fire" since Christ). A lifetime accrual of sin.

Therefore to hold a hard line on an area of mercy, would be contradictory to "loving thy neighbour". It would be hypocrisy. And strict enforcement of Sabbath Law would be an ironic violation of the Royal Law. The same error/sin as the Pharisees, upholding high-minded "purity" regulations at the expense (literally) of others' salvation; whilst profiting from the racket. This is the denominational sin. A stumbling block that trips people into hell/damnation, done in the name of God, which is blasphemy (abuse of God's name). This is the fallacy of dogma (and doctrinal strictness), an inflexible and narrow understanding of the greatness of God. Which is itself a form of idolatry (a shrunken figurine) in that it shrinks the creator of the universe and the enormity of love/jealousy he has for his creation.

"At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn and to eat. But when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto him, Behold, thy disciples do that which is not lawful to do upon the sabbath day." (Mt 12:1-2)

Remembering that Christ came "To seek and to save that which was lost." Which most of us frankly are, be it lost in our minds, emotions, work, jobs, families, traffic, commuting, legal problems, social problems, whatever. The world is a turbulent place. Thus, Sabbath (and eternal rest) is truly something to 'hope' for and look forward to, not dogma, not by demanding that "one must obey". But rather obedience comes intuitively from the heart, by sincere repentance; turning from one's sin to God. Just as there is dark and light cycles of Sabbath, so too is heart of man, cycles of sin and holiness. Until God's kingdom come. Until Christ opens the door.
 
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Sabbath is when to "hear": BibleGateway.com: A searchable online Bible in over 150 versions and 50 languages.: Audio

Jeremiah 17:21-27

Thus saith the LORD; Take heed to yourselves, and bear no burden on the sabbath day, nor bring it in by the gates of Jerusalem; Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers. But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction. And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the LORD, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein; Then shall there enter into the gates of this city kings and princes sitting upon the throne of David, riding in chariots and on horses, they, and their princes, the men of Judah, and the inhabitants of Jerusalem: and this city shall remain for ever. And they shall come from the cities of Judah, and from the places about Jerusalem, and from the land of Benjamin, and from the plain, and from the mountains, and from the south, bringing burnt offerings, and sacrifices, and meat offerings, and incense, and bringing sacrifices of praise, unto the house of the LORD. But if ye will not hearken unto me to hallow the sabbath day, and not to bear a burden, even entering in at the gates of Jerusalem on the sabbath day; then will I kindle a fire in the gates thereof, and it shall devour the palaces of Jerusalem, and it shall not be quenched.

 
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Michael Bushell, Songs of Zion, p. 208:

“Although there is still a great deal of debate about what synagogue meetings were like in the NT period, there is a general consensus among NT scholars that the meetings were not held for the purpose of worship. Levine gives a thorough discussion of the various purposes of the synagogue in 1st C Judaism. It served first of all as a “community center,” a place for the Jewish community to meet together for a wide range of political, social, educational, judicial and religious purposes. Synagogues offered hospitality to travellers and had community meals. Meetings for religious purposes seem to have been limited to Sabbath and Jewish holy days. These meetings according to Levine, included Torah-reading, readings from the prophets, study and instructions, sermons, and targumum (translation and commentary). He argues that there was no institutional prayer in Judean synagogues prior to 70 AD. [396]

Footnote 396: Lee Levine, The Ancient Synagogue … Levine does argue that there were prayers in diaspora synagogues, but the only real evidence for this is the denomination of some of them as προσευχη (“place of prayer”); others have argued that there are other reasons for the use of this name.

"It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves." (Mt 21:13) Where the eternal "shew bread" is Christ the "bread of life", from Bethlehem (the House of Bread, or Kingdom of Heaven).

Relating to Sabbath: "I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead. ...I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world." (Jn 6:48-49, 51)

How does one then collect a "double portion" of Christ's flesh during the week? It's physically impossible.

The sacrifice of Christ at Passover was a ceremonial sacrifice once and for all time, by order of Melchizedek. "One sacrifice for sins for ever" (Heb 10:12)

Entering into Sabbath then is entering into prophecy, partaking in the future. "Holy convocation" is true, but it must be future oriented, less the present or past. Hence the law is a "shadow". As lights of the Menorah are lit in sequence, from left to right, shining light towards Sukkot, the 7th feast or season, and final rest for our souls. That is what I mean by "a thousand years", as Sabbath points to Moedim feasts of the Lord, prophecy, eternity. "One day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day." (2 Pet 3:8) Thus a thousand years of Sabbath days is 7000 years. And sabbath observance then is connecting with everyone in history (past, present, and future) who did the same. A "scarlet thread" (Josh 2:18) but woven through time.

"Remembrance" (reflection) on Sabbath is of one's depravity (bondage to sin) and Christ's work (redemption from sin), fully realised when in the future return of the Lord. It's taking off our shoes (Ex 3:5).

On pragmatics:

The purpose of Sabbath hinges on the duality between "work" and "rest", or working until it's time to rest. We work because God wills it, even under corrupt Roman governments we are taught to submit. We are to serve diligently, per the shrewd servant. However, like David's failure to secure food and resorting to eating shew bread, we too will inevitably strive and fail in worldly endeavours. Contrary unlimited growth per monetary policy. In our generation, it will be poverty and or financial/economic collapse (as dystopian and anarchist as that sounds). Hope comes by understanding that God works in chaos, making something from nothing. Resting once complete.

Life sequence: Sabbath (darkness of the womb) > Birth (light from exiting the womb) > Weekly work > Weekly Sabbath > Weekly work > death > Christ's eternal work (Judgement, mercy, salvation, new creation) > Eternal Sabbath

Somewhere in one's election/salvation a shift takes place between the mutually exclusive entities: God vs Sin/Satan/money/work/slavery/depravity... Same as the interplay between dark and light, at sunset and sunrise. Relating to the East gate in Jerusalem, Messiah's entrance. Sunrise. The 4th watch of the night. Break of dawn.

"No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." (Mt 6:24)

Work is a fact of life. But it's not the sum of one's life. The sum or end of the working/worldly life is Christ, not money/wealth.

"And the lord commended the unjust steward, because he had done wisely: for the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light. And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations." (Lk 16:8-9)

A believer's exemption from violating/profaning Sabbath Law is not out of rebellious "disobedience" but by supremacy or right of faith. Out of love for God and neighbour, an appeal to a greater need. Where breaking sabbath is by circumstance, out of necessity/desperation. Like the women who approached Christ in desperation were commended for "great faith". It's not discounting or dismissing the holiness of Sabbath law, but rather it's using/bending the law to achieve the purpose of the law: Life.

Whereas the legalists are none-the-wiser, keeping to the letter of the law and oblivious as to the reason/purpose/function/use of the law. The law for the legalist is a a bench mark, a teacher's cane, for naughty students, to point and whip back into line. Correcting them for their own good. Which how the Mosaic Law originated, since the children rejected God's offer/intent to cohabit with them, to walk among them, instead choosing idolatry. Thus the law, is a contractual barrier: Terms of engagement like for Landlord and Tenant. It's to make sure the Tenant doesn't say damage the property. But a good tenant will go beyond that without ever reading the contract, cheerfully maintaining the property.

Same in business, where often the best deals are done on a handshake or not even. Out of "good faith", trust, gut feelings, instinct, intuition. The other party has quality goods and you know they're worthwhile.

But deals where a thousand-paged contract is faxed through to sign, it's almost always a terrible deal, handcuffs in every clause. Same for God's Law. The law is true, but it's for the disobedient, not the righteous. Written to deter and prevent the weaker party sinking deeper into criminal behaviour.

"Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus." (Gal 3 24-26)

Some people only know the cane, by strict teaching, by punishment. Others perform by carrot, reward, by faith. It's the later group imo who are commended in Scripture, after Abel, giving all diligence and offering their best to God and neighbour. Regardless of law. Regardless of witnesses. This is the OP hypothesis. "Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." (Rom 13:10)--- A faithful love that surpasses and eclipses the Decalogue, because "God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him." (1 Jn 4:16) Abrogating the Sabbath commandment (not the principle or law).

Legalists however don't understand any deeper than the letter of the law. Even jealous like Cain. Which is prophesied for Israel. It's the attitude of disobedience.

"For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them." (Gal 3:9-12) --- An illustration of voluntary bondage vs liberty.

To be clear, this is not a judgement or condescension. People are born the way they are. In my family too, we're all different. I've met women who's 'love language' is legalistic, cold and forced. They mean well, but it's a 'small love', stingy. Maybe due to background and it's all they know, but for whatever reason they only understand love in terms of agreement, "to do lists", promises, oaths, vowels. Which to me is bizarre and unacceptable, because so much in life is unspoken and implicit. Whereas family members I naturally connect with best have big hearts and are full of love, naturally kind and rich in generosity. Which is how God is. "But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ" (Eph 2:4-5)
 
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Happy Sabbath friend! Faith does not require purpose does it? As if we need to understand is a fallacy and prideful in respect to God’s will. What kind of understanding could have Abraham understood while he was about to sacrifice Isaac

Faith is absolute trust in God and obeying even if we do not understand, like Abraham did with Isaac. God still tests and gives us trials, having a strong foundation of trust and faith in God even in tough times is vital.

Happy Sabbath my friend!

The purpose of this thread is to study the purpose to give glory to God but it is not to exploit the purpose. I've been over this yet it resurfaces from the same offenders. Is there a specific aspect of this that is confusing so that I may make it less confusing?
 
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The purpose of this thread is to study the purpose to give glory to God but it is not to exploit the purpose. I've been over this yet it resurfaces from the same offenders. Is there a specific aspect of this that is confusing so that I may make it less confusing?
Brother, when it was denied is just as important as when it was given! They are not "exploiting" the purpose, simply pointing out that God was "angry" at those who "didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God". How can you understand the purpose of the Sabbath skipping the "rest" of the Sabbath that God did not allow those "whose corpses lay in the wilderness" to enter His "rest" on the Sabbath "ready since he made the world"?

Be careful then, dear brothers and sisters. Make sure that your own hearts are not evil and unbelieving, turning you away from the living God. You must warn each other every day, while it is still “today,” so that none of you will be deceived by sin and hardened against God. For if we are faithful to the end, trusting God just as firmly as when we first believed, we will share in all that belongs to Christ. Remember what it says: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts as Israel did when they rebelled.” And who was it who rebelled against God, even though they heard his voice? Wasn’t it the people Moses led out of Egypt? And who made God angry for forty years? Wasn’t it the people who sinned, whose corpses lay in the wilderness? And to whom was God speaking when he took an oath that they would never enter his rest? Wasn’t it the people who disobeyed him? So we see that because of their unbelief they were not able to enter his rest. (Hebrews 3:12-19 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge
 
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The purpose of this thread is to study the purpose to give glory to God but it is not to exploit the purpose. I've been over this yet it resurfaces from the same offenders. Is there a specific aspect of this that is confusing so that I may make it less confusing?
Your thread title is the purpose of the Sabbath and giving the answers from scriptures is not “exploiting” that purpose. Giving glory to God is when we obey and do God’s will over own own. When we do this it allows God to be God and shows complete trust in Him and His Word. The Sabbath commandment absolutely glories God as it is a memorial of His Creation!

I love the SDA’s statement on the Sabbath.

The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)
 
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most of these sabbath threads soon turn into the same back and forth from the same people and with the same canned arguments (myself included and if it's you too you know who you are). But for the moment let's table the arguments of the requirement of the Sabbath and talk about the purpose of the Sabbath which I feel is a more noble conversation.

So in whatever you say, make sure you are speaking about the purpose and not just rehashing the same things we can see in pages and pages of threads before this. A mother may say to her child "eat your vegetables" so the immediate instruction/requirement is clear which is to eat the vegetable but nothing is said about the purpose of eating the vegetables and it's to that purpose I'm getting at.

Let's try and be critical about this too and avoid sentiments like "because God says to obey it". Although that may be a statement of motivation it is not a statement of purpose and to that expect a reply of "Why does God say to obey it?" Better yet ask yourself why first, and keep asking why until you can get to the root and that should show you the purpose.

What is the purpose of the Sabbath?
I don't know if this has been covered yet or not, but here's what I could find:

Exodus 23 "Six days you shall do your work, and on the seventh day you shall rest, that your ox and your donkey may have rest, and the son of your servant, and the alien may be refreshed."

Exodus 31 "It is a sign between me and the children of Israel forever; for in six days Yahweh made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed."

So the stated purpose is to be refreshed.

But an issue I see right off with this is that it presents God as being tired from creating and benefiting from resting. That doesn't really fit with my image of God.

So I think the deeper purpose is to teach us about trusting God to meet our needs even if we don't work all that we can.

That fits with the overall purpose of the entire law as a teacher or a kind of babysitter until Christ came.
 
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I love the SDA’s statement on the Sabbath.

The gracious Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God’s unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God’s kingdom. The Sabbath is God’s perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God’s creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Exod. 20:8-11; 31:13-17; Lev. 23:32; Deut. 5:12-15; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Ezek. 20:12, 20; Matt. 12:1-12; Mark 1:32; Luke 4:16; Heb. 4:1-11.)

Kindly and constructively, I'm afraid this post is says it all. Case in point.

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In history there have been very sad and seemingly hopeless Sabbaths... But you might argue that's from failure keep God's law. Fair enough.

However, Yom Kippur or Judgement Day is the 'Sabbath of Sabbaths', and we know in Revelation it will be a sad day of tragedy, witnessing the execution of God's enemies and very likely certain family members and people we know. "It shall be a sabbath of rest unto you, and ye shall afflict your souls, by a statute for ever." (Lev 16:31)

תְּעַנּוּ אֶת־נַפְשֹֽׁתֵיכֶם
ye shall afflict your souls

עָנָה anaw: “the idea of looking down or browbeating); to depress literally or figuratively, transitive or intransitive (in various applications, as follows):—abase self, afflict(-ion, self),” (Strongs) ... “to bestow labour upon anything, to exercise oneself in anything... (2) to be afflicted, depressed, oppressed ... to oppress, to depress, to afflict... " (Gesenius)

This "affliction" involves 'work' for God. De-constructive works for lack of better term. Opening the gates and letting people leave work, go home, to go get food, medical, transport, ‘works of mercy’. The verb “release”.

The doctrine lacks a proper clause about "neighbour". Actual benefit to people. A direct focus on people. Yes, there's "rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath." And "delightful communion with God and one another." Blah blah, but these are blanket statements. After thoughts. Religious gibberish.

"The gracious Creator". Even the opening words are false/inaccurate. It uses the correct word "Sabbath" (Shabbat, שַׁבָּת) yet ironically/contradictorily uses an false/incomplete title for God ("Creator") that he himself didn't use. -- This itself is blasphemy, but anyway that might pass as ignorance. -- Because, out of the 16 OT titles, the title it is most likely referring to, Elohim, means "God, Judge, and Creator". It's this element of judgement/justice, judicial wisdom, weighing of all evidence, balance of probabilities, that your points fail to grasp. Hence complete misunderstanding, unable to differentiate "purpose" with "obedience" (they are not synonymous: i.e empty legalistic obedience vs fulfilling spiritual obedience via the heart/purpose of the law). O.T. Names of God - Study Resources

The verb choice "requires" is telling. Lacking voluntary freedom of choice is tyrannical.

"As a memorial of Creation". Kind of true. Firstly why is "Creation" capitalised as a pronoun? Is that to say "Sabbath is as a memorial of God"? Again, a false title, that's not true. -- This itself is violation of the first 3 commandments, inc. imitation "likeness of any thing that is in heaven" --- This is perhaps the reason for misunderstanding the "purpose" of Sabbath. Because God is not the object of Sabbath. Not at all. Hence the "Sabbath was made for man" (Mk 2:27).

Giving glory to God is when we obey and do God’s will over own own.
Correct.

"Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place. Trust ye not in lying words, saying, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, The temple of the LORD, are these. For if ye throughly amend your ways and your doings; if ye throughly execute judgment between a man and his neighbour; If ye oppress not the stranger, the fatherless, and the widow, and shed not innocent blood in this place, neither walk after other gods to your hurt: Then will I cause you to dwell in this place, in the land that I gave to your fathers, for ever and ever. Behold, ye trust in lying words, that cannot profit." (Jer 7:3-8)
 
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Brother, when it was denied is just as important as when it was given! They are not "exploiting" the purpose, simply pointing out that God was "angry" at those who "didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God".

Your thread title is the purpose of the Sabbath and giving the answers from scriptures is not “exploiting” that purpose. Giving glory to God is when we obey and do God’s will over own own. When we do this it allows God to be God and shows complete trust in Him and His Word. The Sabbath commandment absolutely
I'm not accusing you of exploiting purpose, the suggestion is you're accusing me of exploiting purpose to steer requirement. This I have expliclty rejected yet the remarks to the contary continue to surface. Do you need me to explain this again? Please respect the request given in the OP.
 
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as a reminder, this is not a thread regarding challenging/defending SDA doctrines. This is a thread to look at the purpose of the Sabbath. If you wish to challenge/defend SDA doctrines or their origins please start your own thread.
 
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This thread has had a cleaning. Please keep the content on topic. This thread is not intended as a debate thread. One can discuss the purpose of the Sabbath even if one does not observe the Sabbath.

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most of these sabbath threads soon turn into the same back and forth from the same people and with the same canned arguments (myself included and if it's you too you know who you are). But for the moment let's table the arguments of the requirement of the Sabbath and talk about the purpose of the Sabbath which I feel is a more noble conversation.

So in whatever you say, make sure you are speaking about the purpose and not just rehashing the same things we can see in pages and pages of threads before this. A mother may say to her child "eat your vegetables" so the immediate instruction/requirement is clear which is to eat the vegetable but nothing is said about the purpose of eating the vegetables and it's to that purpose I'm getting at.

Let's try and be critical about this too and avoid sentiments like "because God says to obey it". Although that may be a statement of motivation it is not a statement of purpose and to that expect a reply of "Why does God say to obey it?" Better yet ask yourself why first, and keep asking why until you can get to the root and that should show you the purpose.

What is the purpose of the Sabbath?

There's a mushy romantic (erotic) and spiritual (ruach Spirit) aspect that no one's mentioned. A love that's in the heart of the Gospel and the Sabbath included. God gave Adam Eve. Jacob's love for Rachel. Christ's first miracle. The bridegroom's love for his bride. Christ and his church/flock/elect. "For God so loved the world..." (Jn 3:16) Same too is the object of the Sabbath "for man" or mankind.

Expressed in the lyrics of Lekha Dodi (“Let us go, my beloved”), sung on Friday sundown. From from Songs 7:12.

[10] I am my beloved's, and his desire is toward me.
[11] Come, my beloved, let us go forth into the field; let us lodge in the villages.
[12] Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine flourish, whether the tender grape appear, and the pomegranates bud forth: there will I give thee my loves.
[13] The mandrakes give a smell, and at our gates are all manner of pleasant fruits, new and old, which I have laid up for thee, O my beloved.

Sabbath is time to let go of the world and turning inward, to connect with God. I called it a "wormhole" connection for lack of better term, metaphorically and spiritually. Because "The kingdom of God is within you" (Lk 17:21) This same metaphor is seen in the placenta connecting mother and child, a physical/chemical/emotional/spiritual(?) bond and source of nourishment. Also the phallus in sexual intercourse between man and woman, a physical/chemical/emotional/spiritual bond that pro-creates life. As cringey as that is. It's true. The duration of these bonds is symbolic also of their permanence.

Husband & wife (moments) < mother & child (9 months) < Christ & his flock (everlasting)

Everything before Christ is impermanent. Hence "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee." (Heb 13:5) And Sabbath is all but a momentary glimpse into eternity.

The Talmudic vs Kabbalistic/Mystic view: “For the Talmudic Rabbis, the Sabbath was seen as a gift from God—something of heavenly origin down here to us. But for mystic, the message is deeper: The Sabbath is an event within God. Through prayer, study and ritual we share in some of the mysterious events occurring within Him.”

Start at 2:29, with quote at 7:26,
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The purpose of the Shabbat is to bring about the restoration of all things on the seventh day (a day in heaven is a thousand years on earth) To bring the end of all wars and human suffering and strife, an age of peace where Messiah will rule the Earth for a milenium. The Shabbat is a sign, the sign of a covenant between God and His people; those who are one like the Father and the son, those who live together and share all things in common (Acts 2:44-4:32), loving one another and being purified, entering the Shabbat day (of the week) into His rest because they have true peace with one another. You can only rest if you have peace with all your relations. Try living together with all your fellow church members sharing all things in common, you will see how quickly you realize that the power of the Holy Spirit is not there to bring peace, its easy to have peace and love for all on sundays at church, and then everyone goes back to their separate lives to make money for their separate bank accounts and selfish ambitions and desires, or their poverty and loneliness. This is what the Holy Spirit does: it brings people together and gives them the power to overcome anything that divides humans, so that there can be brothers and sisters in Messiah living together in peace and unity, being a witness of His love to a world that is a slave to selfishness. His people are not 50.000 divided denominations, but a royal priesthood, a holy nation who overcome all of Gods enemeis (selfishness, pride, greed,etc) for 49 years until the year of Jubilee, when Messiah will return to destroy those who are on the side of evil, and to bring about the Shabbat age of peace and rest on the Earth.
 
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most of these sabbath threads soon turn into the same back and forth from the same people and with the same canned arguments (myself included and if it's you too you know who you are). But for the moment let's table the arguments of the requirement of the Sabbath and talk about the purpose of the Sabbath which I feel is a more noble conversation.

So in whatever you say, make sure you are speaking about the purpose and not just rehashing the same things we can see in pages and pages of threads before this. A mother may say to her child "eat your vegetables" so the immediate instruction/requirement is clear which is to eat the vegetable but nothing is said about the purpose of eating the vegetables and it's to that purpose I'm getting at.

Let's try and be critical about this too and avoid sentiments like "because God says to obey it". Although that may be a statement of motivation it is not a statement of purpose and to that expect a reply of "Why does God say to obey it?" Better yet ask yourself why first, and keep asking why until you can get to the root and that should show you the purpose.

What is the purpose of the Sabbath?


If one was a surveyor the Sabbath would be as a trig point; if one was a gentile one would see the Sabbath as something belonging to someone else; if one walked with God, keeping the Sabbath is a sign of having entered into the covenant,among other things; if one was God, the Sabbath is a prophesy or type of things to come.
 
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If one was a surveyor the Sabbath would be as a trig point; if one was a gentile one would see the Sabbath as something belonging to someone else; if one walked with God, keeping the Sabbath is a sign of having entered into the covenant,among other things; if one was God, the Sabbath is a prophesy or type of things to come.

“The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.” (Deu 29:29)

Therefore,

"Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind." (Phil 2:2)
 
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If one was a surveyor the Sabbath would be as a trig point; if one was a gentile one would see the Sabbath as something belonging to someone else; if one walked with God, keeping the Sabbath is a sign of having entered into the covenant,among other things; if one was God, the Sabbath is a prophesy or type of things to come.
if we look at a stop sign what is the purpose? most would be tempted to say "to stop" when in fact this is not the purpose, stopping is just a means to the purpose. If you arbitrarily place stop signs everywhere then the stop sign has no purpose and is meaningless (except for maybe some sort of anarchy) typically a stop sign wants you to stop for the purpose of control. controlling an intersection or going through some sort of checkpoint or marking a point to wait. The stop sign itself is just an instruction to achieve that goal, which is an instruction to stop but the goal is not "stopping" it's something else and even without the stop sign, that goal may still be there. You may not actually need to stop to achieve the goal but if we place a stop sign then you're under obligation to keep it and if you don't you're liable and come under judgment.

The Sabbath law is like a stop sign to achieve a greater purpose. it shows instructions on how to achieve a goal of Sabbath on a broader level or "God's rest". but before the Sabbath law there was no instruction yet the goal was still there. after the law the instruction may not apply in the same way yet the goal is still there. so what is that goal?
 
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but before the Sabbath law there was no instruction yet the goal was still there. after the law the instruction may not apply in the same way yet the goal is still there. so what is that goal?

Return to Eden. Our ancestors got locked out, remember?

Shabbat is packed with symbolic meaning, from special Shabbat food, to child education, giving thanks, remembrance of the Exodus, blessing, spiritual/mental edification, connection with family and loved ones. It's much more than a "stop sign". It's kinda like how 'midday' Glockenspiel sound is celebrated in German towns. Like when church bells ring before service, or when Big Ben sounds. But a divine marker of time, not an arbitrary man made one. But chronologically aligned

https://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Shabbat/ShabbatSederGuide.pdf


Horology and chronology are sciences, and throughout history various cultures set their calendar as based around their own gods. Sabbath effectively then marks time for believer only, truly for the observer only to "remember". Because truly nobody else cares.

"Calendar divisions are based on the movements of the Earth and the regular appearances of the Sun and the Moon, and a calendar typically works by dividing time up into units of days, weeks, months and years. Most of these units are based on objectively verifiable astronomical cycles, although the use of weeks within calendars is purely for administrative convenience and is not tied to any astronomical cycle. ...Any calendar system also needs to have a starting or reference point, sometimes referred to as a “fiducial epoch” (or just epoch), from which to begin counting. For example, the old Roman calendar used the assumed founding date of the city of Rome; the widely-used modern Gregorian calendar uses the supposed date of the birth of Christ; the Hebrew calendar uses the estimated date of the creation of the world; etc. A particular date, or the occurrence of a particular event, can then be specified with reference to these unit divisions and the starting reference point (e.g. 3rd of May 2013CE)." time measurement – Exactly What Is Time?

The article's quite concise, if interested. e.g. the Ancient Calendars section

Whereas for God, Genesis just starts with "(In the) Beginning" (Bereshit). So this is our starting or reference point. Creation > Eden.
 
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