What is the purpose of the Sabbath?

[Leaf473]

So then it is deliberate mis-directed, vague off truth instead of direct specific truth ?
The original post looks more true now - "that looks like a purposeful misrepresentation/ misquote"

Peace be with you, my man

I feel led to post proverbs 10:6 from the New International Reader's Version

Bible Gateway passage: Proverbs 10:6 - New International Reader's Version

Blessings are like crowns on the heads of those who do right. But the trouble caused by what sinners say destroys them.

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[Clare73]

Sigh? That is being stated in respect to the rest in which is the Gospel.

Precisely. . .the gospel is the NT Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ.
We are NT Christians, not OT Jews.

God's own (Heb 3:11, 4:3) full-time rest (Heb 4:4) for us is in Jesus Christ, not in a weekly Sabbath.

 

[guevaraj]

Precisely. . .the gospel is the NT Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ.

Sister, where is the biblical evidence for such a distortion of God's message in Hebrews?

Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. (Hebrews 4:8 NLT)​

Jesus is not another "day" for the Sabbath in the book of Hebrews! Are you trying to distort God's original message, like the King James translators, to say something other than that God wants us to keep the Sabbath in the new covenant corrected from human tradition in Judaism since Joshua?

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. God announced this through David much later in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now if Joshua had succeeded in giving them this rest, God would not have spoken about another day of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:1-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[HIM]

Precisely. . .the gospel is the NT Sabbath rest in Jesus Christ.

Says you but not the text in question. Please reread the post thank you.

 

[Clare73]

Sister, where is the biblical evidence for such a distortion of God's message in Hebrews?

Heb 4:8-11.

 

[guevaraj]

Heb 4:8-11.

Sister, the King James translators went against the context of the message, to insert Jesus into the Sabbath message, where we are told that Judaism is wrong about the Sabbath when God prevented them from entering the Sabbath during the 40 years in the wilderness, as punishment for their disobedience acknowledged in the video below, where God made them keep the 7th day of the week, which is a half day too late to enter the Sabbath near Jerusalem.

The King James Version uses the word “gospel” to change the entire message, from the belief needed to correct Joshua’s past misunderstanding of the Sabbath to whether a Jew believes in Jesus today. Perhaps a simplification of the KJV message as different from the NLT will help you understand what I mean by the KJV twisting words to change the message against the context by inserting Jesus into the message about the “good news” of the Sabbath in the book of Hebrews. The original message speaks of a past error by "Joshua" about the Sabbath, but the KJV translators want it instead to be about future belief in Jesus by Jews today, inserting Jesus into the context of an error that began before “David” with "Joshua" and not after “David” with Jesus.

God wants you to enter the corrected good news of the Sabbath "rest" Joshua got wrong before David. (the NLT's simplified message)​

The KJV translators then translated the original message mentioned above against the context, changing the message from past misunderstanding about the Sabbath to future belief in Jesus by the Jews.

Jesus is the Sabbath "rest" that the Jews have not entered and that we have already entered. (the KJV's simplified message)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge

 

[Clare73]

Sister, the King James translators went against the context of the message, to insert Jesus into the Sabbath message,

"Jesus" is not in that text in my Bible. "Joshua" is in that text.

 

[guevaraj]

"Jesus" is not in that text in my Bible. "Joshua" is in that text.

Sister, the update by the NKJV translators fixed the obvious misidentification of "Joshua" before David as Jesus, but not the misuse of Jesus' "gospel" for the "good news" of the Sabbath, still inserting Jesus before "David" into the Sabbath message in the book of Hebrews to alter the original message of belief needed to correct Joshua's past misunderstanding of the Sabbath to something completely different, of whether a Jew believes in Jesus today to enter as we have, when the original message tells us that we have not entered into "another day" correcting the human tradition of the Sabbath in Judaism.

For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 KJV)​

The above forcing against context the person of "Joshua" as Jesus is later corrected without correcting its twisting effect on the rest of the passage that says something completely different from the original message.

For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day. (Hebrews 4:8 NKJV)​

Note two things: that the NLT does not use the word "gospel" for the "good news" of the Sabbath like the KJV translators do to insert Jesus via the word "gospel" into the message about the Sabbath in the book of Hebrews and that David is the reference point in that it is a message about a past error and not about Jesus who came after David. In context, God is giving a second chance to get the Sabbath right after "David", revealing that the one who failed to give Judaism the proper understanding of the Sabbath "day" was "Joshua" before "David" and not Jesus who came after "David."

God’s promise of entering his rest still stands, so we ought to tremble with fear that some of you might fail to experience it. For this good news—that God has prepared this rest—has been announced to us just as it was to them. But it did them no good because they didn’t share the faith of those who listened to God. For only we who believe can enter his rest. As for the others, God said, “In my anger I took an oath: ‘They will never enter my place of rest,’” even though this rest has been ready since he made the world. We know it is ready because of the place in the Scriptures where it mentions the seventh day: “On the seventh day God rested from all his work.” But in the other passage God said, “They will never enter my place of rest.” So God’s rest is there for people to enter, but those who first heard this good news failed to enter because they disobeyed God. So God set another time for entering his rest, and that time is today. GOD ANNOUNCED THIS THROUGH DAVID MUCH LATER in the words already quoted: “Today when you hear his voice, don’t harden your hearts.” Now IF JOSHUA HAD SUCCEEDED IN GIVING THEM THIS REST, GOD WOULD NOT HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT ANOTHER DAY of rest still to come. So there is a special rest still waiting for the people of God. For all who have entered into God’s rest have rested from their labors, just as God did after creating the world. So let us do our best to enter that rest. But if we disobey God, as the people of Israel did, we will fall. (Hebrews 4:1-11 NLT)​

United in our hope for the soon return of Jesus, Jorge