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The Ten Commandments are not the moral law. They were a law for Hebrews at Sinai and in Israel. The moral law is the commandments of Jesus, and they are different.But obeying to "Two" perfectly, will be obeying the "Ten" or the "entire moral Law" perfectly, as well, or also...
Which would make having the "right way" figured out, and I do believe that "right way" has to do much, much more with the "two" than it does the "ten" or whole moral Law or the "letter of the, or any Law", or Law's, specifically...
God Bless!
"This is my beloved son, listen to HIM!"If "any letter of any Law" is "wrong", then how do or can we know the "true Law" (which would include the real, true way) so as to obey (it)...?
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I do think it is in my heart and mind, put there by Him, but trying to put into words is another story... But I just feel like I do "know it"/Him..."This is my beloved son, listen to HIM!"
That is your answer. STOP focusing on the other stuff. Focus like a laser beam on what JESUS said. Leave the rest aside. The WHOLE LAW that applies NOW, to YOU, is encompassed in what he said. He said that all foods are clean. That's the end of it. There is no kosher for you. Leave it be. He did not include Sabbath keeping as something that was required, so leave it be. Theft is not a mortal sin. That doesn't mean "go steal", but it does mean don't emphasize it. Lying and sexual immorality are mortal sins, and pretty universal among men. Look at those sins, acknowledge that you commit them, and that therefore you're doomed to the lake of fire unless you are forgiven. Then look at what JESUS said you have to do to be forgiven. Jesus provided a complete law. It's less comprehensive than the Law of Moses, but it penetrates much more deeply.
It's kind of like "eye for eye" but reversed, or in reverse...The Ten Commandments are not the moral law. They were a law for Hebrews at Sinai and in Israel. The moral law is the commandments of Jesus, and they are different.
Also, this whole business of "the moral law" is NOT PART OF THE LAW. The ceremonial/moral distinction is not in the law. It's made up. And making things up is adding something, and that's breaking the law.
Really, you are in a trap. You need to stop studying Moses and focus like a laser beam on JESUS. HE is the one God told you to listen to.
Jesus gives a different set of laws that will get you damned. They're in Genesis, and they're not the ten. Theft and covetousness, for example, are not on the list of things that will get you damned to the lake of fire - not there. Property crime and thought crime about property are part of the Ten Commandments, but NOT part of Jesus' list of deadly sins.
Really, you will do so much better if you devote your energy to understanding JESUS' law fully. It is much more complex and much harder than Moses'. You can't keep it either, but Jesus never said "break one, break 'em all". Rather, he said that to be forgiven by God, you have to forgive. It's a very different law.
Going by, basically... living under, or trying hard (and maybe exerting themselves to a great degree, lot's of self-effort and self-will) to live under or by...
The temple.. no stone left.. that LAST lamb came gone.. there is no OLD one can still do.. not there..
The church has always held that Christians are bound to keep the Ten Commandments. The right way to do so is under grace, by the Spirit, rather than by the letter, even if the letter is absolutely correct in this case. The letter shows us the right way, the Spirit provides the right way to fulfill it. The Spirit fulfills the law in us as it causes us to love as God loves.If "any letter of any Law" is "wrong", then how do or can we know the "true Law" (which would include the real, true way) so as to obey (it)...?
God Bless!
Are we not dead to the law if we are in Christ?
Basically you are talking about having faith in God in the OT, Christ In the NT to save us, or faith in our self keeping the law to save ourselves. This was true in the old testament as well as the new. Drawing back is to profess faith in Him but in reality be trusting in our self keeping the law. It is a simple but sensitive issue as far as we are concerned bust rest assured He knows. To answer another question, we are all under the law once we become accountable (some believe from conception).Faith in what...?
Or drawing back, or shrinking back ,or turning back, or turning away from "what" exactly...?
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What were the intentions? how do we truly obey it?The "letter of the Law", but not it's Spirit, or the "Spirit of it" (the Law), or behind it, or the original intentions behind it of the God behind it, or His intentions, when it was instituted, which Jesus shows us, and shows really and truly how, (to truly obey it, fulfill it, ect)...
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What is exactly and specifically "wrong" with operating under the Old Covenant...?
What's the "harm" in it...?
And is it scripturally "wrong"...?
And, if it is, "why" (is that)...? (please provide scriptures if you like)... (or IYOW's if you like)...
And, what about people who might think they are operating under the NC, but are not totally, but are attempting some kind of "mix" or mixture of the two...?
Is there any "harm" in that...? And if so, how or why...?
And, lastly, are they really "Christians" if they are doing this, or not...?
Comments...?
God Bless!
What were the intentions?
how do we truly obey it?
Which is why we need and did need Christ, I know...The Old Covenant required regular sacrifices under the supervision of the priests at the place designated by God for the atonement of sins. Because that can't be done anymore, there is no way to atone for sin under the Old Covenant.
I already have, did you overlook post #74?To make us all "perfect"... And the world perfect...
Well now, that is "the question" isn't it...?
I am fully confident that Jesus (and/or God) already showed us all how, but it is for us to uncover it and "figure it out" so to speak, and it/that is something I am currently working on right now...? (got a few other threads going to that aim)...
They did "put it all there" for us, but it is in a "mystery" or is "shrouded in a, or many, "mysteries" and/or riddles/parables (for us)...
Care to join me...?
God Bless!
Basically you are talking about having faith in God in the OT, Christ In the NT to save us, or faith in our self keeping the law to save ourselves.
This was true in the old testament as well as the new.
Drawing back is to profess faith in Him but in reality be trusting in our self keeping the law.
It is a simple but sensitive issue as far as we are concerned bust rest assured He knows.
To answer another question, we are all under the law once we become accountable (some believe from conception).
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