How is "glory" different from "ego"?

[The Righterzpen]

Billions of people suffering for ANY slapping on the back and praise...

like I can get and love the idea of salvation for the sake of others, a selfless sacrifice,
what I can't love is doing it for praise.

for many believers what they want is Jesus telling them "well done my good and faithful servant", they want praise.
I don't get that at all.
I desire something more intimate than corporate praise and worship.

So what is that "intimate something" that you're really looking for? Looks to me that you don't even see your own sin for what it is.

 

[Jamdoc]

So what is that "intimate something" that you're really looking for? Looks to me that you don't even see your own sin for what it is.

Sin, the cursed world and death and hell and suffering are reasons I wish I didn't even exist.

To look forward to... "it was all for praise" makes me want to still not exist.
I want to be able to relate to God personally, but a desire for praise to the point of accepting billions of people suffering for it is an unfathomable chasm I can't relate to.
I don't desire Jesus suffering for my sake, and if it were my choice I wouldn't exist, therefore I wouldn't have sinned, and therefore Jesus wouldn't have suffered for that sin. Let that sink in.
I would rather not exist, if it spared Jesus suffering.

Forgiveness of sin is removing 1 negative out of many, and I don't see praise as a positive making it worth all the negatives.
It's the end goal, the heart, the motivation, that matters., and praise is just not something I see such value in as to be worth all the sin, death, suffering, and the condemnation of so many... to get that praise.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Sin, the cursed world and death and hell and suffering are reasons I wish I didn't even exist.

To look forward to... "it was all for praise" makes me want to still not exist.
I want to be able to relate to God personally, but a desire for praise to the point of accepting billions of people suffering for it is an unfathomable chasm I can't relate to.
I don't desire Jesus suffering for my sake, and if it were my choice I wouldn't exist, therefore I wouldn't have sinned, and therefore Jesus wouldn't have suffered for that sin. Let that sink in.
I would rather not exist, if it spared Jesus suffering.

Forgiveness of sin is removing 1 negative out of many, and I don't see praise as a positive making it worth all the negatives.
It's the end goal, the heart, the motivation, that matters., and praise is just not something I see such value in as to be worth all the sin, death, suffering, and the condemnation of so many... to get that praise.

Well, maybe Jesus didn't actually suffer for your sin and you are simply another "vessel fitted for destruction". (Romans 9:22) I don't know what your end will be; I'm not omniscient.

I'm grateful though that God provided atonement for some; which means at least I got a chance of "winning" the greatest lottery ever known to the universe! Scripture says that from the foundation of the world; God preordained and elected those who'd be the recipients of redemption. He is the "author and finisher of their faith". And after 30 years of being convicted for my sin, knowing I needed redemption, praying for that; as well as praying for wisdom, perseverance and strength; I see evidence in my life that I have been redeemed. He didn't have to pay that price and I know I can't! So yes, I'm grateful Jesus suffered for my sin.

There aint no other options; so ...... "Let that sink in."

And.... all the wishing you never existed is not going to change the reality that you do.
So now.... what you going to do about that? (Other than throw tantrums about how you think God is a narcissist?)
Seeing how "It's the motivation that matters". (How is it you assume you know the heart of God?)

Again, He aint the one with the ego problem here.

 

[Jamdoc]

Well, maybe Jesus didn't actually suffer for your sin and you are simply another "vessel fitted for destruction". (Romans 9:22) I don't know what your end will be; I'm not omniscient.

I'm grateful though that God provided atonement for some; which means at least I got a chance of "winning" the greatest lottery ever known to the universe! Scripture says that from the foundation of the world; God preordained and elected those who'd be the recipients of redemption. He is the "author and finisher of their faith". And after 30 years of being convicted for my sin, knowing I needed redemption, praying for that; as well as praying for wisdom, perseverance and strength; I see evidence in my life that I have been redeemed. He didn't have to pay that price and I know I can't! So yes, I'm grateful Jesus suffered for my sin.

There aint no other options; so ...... "Let that sink in."

And.... all the wishing you never existed is not going to change the reality that you do.
So now.... what you going to do about that? (Other than throw tantrums about how you think God is a narcissist?)
Seeing how "It's the motivation that matters". (How is it you assume you know the heart of God?)

Again, He aint the one with the ego problem here.

Arguing ad hom is not a good way to go about this, for starters.

and secondly, I am going by written revelation and well, preaching on that written revelation.
Doing all this for praise, is just not something I can see value in of itself. Praise is .. I guess nice.. if it didn't cost anything, but here the price paid for praise is exorbitant.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Arguing ad hom is not a good way to go about this, for starters.

and secondly, I am going by written revelation and well, preaching on that written revelation.
Doing all this for praise, is just not something I can see value in of itself. Praise is .. I guess nice.. if it didn't cost anything, but here the price paid for praise is exorbitant.

You're right! "The price paid for praise is exorbitant."

I think Jesus already knows that! (Seeing how he's the one who paid it!)

And with that: I close with:

 

[Jamdoc]

You're right! "The price paid for praise is exorbitant."

I think Jesus already knows that! (Seeing how he's the one who paid it!)

And with that: I close with:

He paid for it for the elect, but for billions of other people the price of God's plan which included the fall, is tremendous. It has casualties among animals who didn't even sin and bear no responsibility for it they suffer for it anyway. ALL of creation groans.....
and before it all, God weighed out the pros and cons of this plan, to let creation fall, and then redeem it... for praise for Himself and decided that people singing to Him was worth it?

That's a lot of suffering to just dismiss over some hymns sung by amateurs.