Timelapse of the sun proves flat earth

[d taylor]

A stick remains straight when viewed through water. From our perspective it appears bent.

The diagram is irrelevant because it assumes the disc-shape of the moon. The moon is a spheroid, like the earth. I don't believe there is much in the way of astronomy in your Bible so that is irrelevant too.

(Nowhere in the Bible is it stated that paracetamol soothes a pain in the neck, but it does!)

The two illustrations are not speaking about the same question.

The question is, when the moon is seen straight above or almost straight above it is circular in shape but as it moves away from the straight up position. Moving toward the horizon and farther away from the viewer and the seen view of straight above the viewer. It, because of perspective distortion and atmospheric conditions it takes on an oval shape. Which is a characteristic of a flat or convex circular disc shape not one of a sphere.

 

[Whyayeman]

It is the same question. What makes the moon appear ovoid is the same phenomenon as the bent stick: it is refraction of light. This is well understood. Children learn this at school.

Your last post makes no sense. Nobody on earth has viewed the moon from above. The moon is not further away from earth when it sets. Actually the moon is always setting somewhere, which a few transcontinental phone calls would easily verify.

 

[d taylor]

The other night i walked outside and looked straight up at the moon. It was straight up above my head/position.

The moon is a flat or convex disc that faces the surface of the earth, to, as the Bible states, give light on the earth.

And a stick in water has nothing to do with this.

 

[Whyayeman]

The moon is a flat or convex disc

Oh, no it isn't! And if you looked straight up at the moon last night you did not see a disc. You saw the moon as just approaching half-moon.

I don't much care what the Bible states about the moon, but it does not state anywhere that it is a flat or convex disc.

 

[d taylor]

Oh, no it isn't! And if you looked straight up at the moon last night you did not see a disc. You saw the moon as just approaching half-moon.

I don't much care what the Bible states about the moon, but it does not state anywhere that it is a flat or convex disc.

The Bible does not have to say that, i see that for myself. and half of the disc moon was lit. No different than if a quarter or whole moon what lit.

 

[atpollard]

That the Earth curves is visually verifiable to anyone and everyone that has ever watched a ship sail towards the horizon and disappear beyond the curve of the earth. Flat is not an option.

 

[Whyayeman]

So, you think you see a disc. Have you considered that the moon could be cylindrical, or conical, or even have knobs on the invisible side?

Would you like diagrams?

 

[d taylor]

That the Earth curves is visually verifiable to anyone and everyone that has ever watched a ship sail towards the horizon and disappear beyond the curve of the earth. Flat is not an option.

Michigan to Milwaukee photo about 80 miles

 

[atpollard]

Michigan to Milwaukee photo about 80 miles

It would NOT be a "rare photo" on a flat earth ... You should be able to see the shoreline with a telescope EVERY DAY!

 

[Whyayeman]

Why can't I see Paris on a clear day - or the Sydney Harbour Bridge, or Milwaukee? These silly claims come up all the time, but they are totally unconvincing.

1. The Earth is a spheroid orbiting the Sun every 365 days and six hours.
2. The Moon is another spheroid, orbiting the Earth every 27 days 43minutes and 12 seconds.

These are precise data. The Earth is not flat and the Moon is not a dinner plate.

 

[d taylor]

In these two photos of the moon. If the moon is a sphere lit by the sun, the moon is always in a full moon phase some where on the moon. So why do we not always see from the moon, the light like we seen when the moon is in a full moon phase. Photos examples full moon with night sky lit up by the moon. Next photo crescent moon phase with no sky lit up by the moon. But the night sky should be lit by a crescent moon if the moon was a sphere lit by the sun. But the sky is not lit up showing the moon is not a sphere and is a flat or convex disc shinning light only toward the surface of the earth.

Full moon with the night sky
fully lit up by the moons light​

Crescent moon with no emitting light
showing up in the night sky. But sky should be fully lit up as in the above photo of the full moon, that is if the moon was a sphere. but the sky is not lit up showing that the moon is not a sphere lit by the sun.

 

[Whyayeman]

I think you should read up about this. You seem to be making it up as you go along.

That flat earth 'proof' of the photo of Milwaukee is a mirage caused by an atmospheric phenomenon called temperature inversion. It is sometimes spectacular as in the photo in this article, but not altogether uncommon.

Walker 'stunned' to see ship hovering high above sea off Cornwall

 

[Shrewd Manager]

That the Earth curves is visually verifiable to anyone and everyone that has ever watched a ship sail towards the horizon and disappear beyond the curve of the earth. Flat is not an option.

Lol, any time you watch a boat 'disappear over the horizon' with the naked eye, you can retrieve it with a telescope/ binoculars.
Fact is that we see much much further than we should on a ball of 40k km circumference.

It's entirely flat, that's why the supposed curvature is never factored in by railroad, canal, bridge, missile and flight systems designers and engineers.

 

[Whyayeman]

Lol, any time you watch a boat 'disappear over the horizon' with the naked eye, you can retrieve it with a telescope/ binoculars

the supposed curvature is never factored in by railroad, canal, bridge, missile and flight systems designers and engineers

These assertions are simply wrong and easily disproved.

Ever heard of Great Circles? Why is it that flights between LA and London fly over the North Pole? Do you suppose it is for the view?

 

[d taylor]

I think you should read up about this. You seem to be making it up as you go along.

That flat earth 'proof' of the photo of Milwaukee is a mirage caused by an atmospheric phenomenon called temperature inversion. It is sometimes spectacular as in the photo in this article, but not altogether uncommon.

Walker 'stunned' to see ship hovering high above sea off Cornwall

Lets compare
A night photo of a superior mirage

Now the photo of Michigan to Milwaukee

 

[FredVB]

It should be not neglected, being credibly shown helps, but those who want to neglect it still will, and just not answer a point like this, as they don't.

And in the North, stars appear to rotate around Polaris. In the South, they appear to rotate around the South Celestial Pole. That can't possibly work on a flat earth.

This is a really good one. No model of a flat, or any nearly flat, earth accounts for it or can account for it.

Seem awful sure of yourself there. Keep walking in sight over faith and with the pride that 'nothing can account for it'. Lol, it can and it does.

How about this - you produce for me just ONE scripture that unambiguously teaches a ball earth, and I'll link you to a vid with a model that accounts for your apparent south celestial circumpolar stars. Deal?

That suggestion is a lousy one. The Bible has no passage, either way, teaching the earth is as a ball, or is just flat. And for good reason. That information is irrelevant to the Bible messages, why should it be in the Scriptures that were to be promoted when those they were to be promoted to for most of history were not ready to hear that the earth was as a ball. There is no scripture passage to show conclusively that it is not, still.

But there is no such information showing how the video shown there is accounted for with a flat earth.

Actual changing minds from conclusion in online communication is totally not needed. There are ways to go out and see evidence for ourselves how it really is.

10 easy ways you can tell for yourself that the Earth is not flat

Five Impossible Facts That Would Have To Be True If The Earth Were Flat

 

[Whyayeman]

Yet those stars apparently rotate round the Pole Star.

The question of why flights from London to Los Angeles fly over the Arctic remains unanswered.

Come on, there must be a Flat Earth Theory response to this...

 

[d taylor]

That suggestion is a lousy one. The Bible has no passage, either way, teaching the earth is as a ball, or is just flat. And for good reason. That information is irrelevant to the Bible messages, why should it be in the Scriptures that were to be promoted when those they were to be promoted to for most of history were not ready to hear that the earth was as a ball. There is no scripture passage to show conclusively that it is not, still.

But there is no such information showing how the video shown there is accounted for with a flat earth.

Actual changing minds from conclusion in online communication is totally not needed. There are ways to go out and see evidence for ourselves how it really is.

10 easy ways you can tell for yourself that the Earth is not flat

Five Impossible Facts That Would Have To Be True If The Earth Were Flat

The reason the Bible does not have to say out right the earth is flat. Is because they (Biblical writers and patriarch's, etc..) did not have to state the obvious.

There are enough descriptions/statements in the Bible, about God's creation. For anyone who believes God's word to know what God created is not what science is stating as reality.

 

[A_Thinker]

Light travels in a straight line. The light that you see ... is the light which is directed into your eyes.

If only a portion of the moon is lit (so that you can see it), ... only that portion of the light coming from the moon is arriving at the earth's surface. So, of course, light from a full moon lights up the night more ... than light from a crescent moon.

That would be true ... regardless of the original SOURCE of the light, whether from the moon itself, ... or as a reflection from the sun.

The more relevant question is ... how is it that just a portion of the moon is lighted ? Such a phenomenon is consistent with a sphere being lit by light from light from another source, ... but not so much by the moon being the source of its own light ...

 

[Whyayeman]

Why is it that the direct route from London to Los Angeles is over the arctic? Perhaps there is a 'map' which explains this. Would such a map have any practical use in navigating the Atlantic Ocean? Would mariners gain some advantage from it?