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The Sabbath

Discussion in 'Non-denominational' started by Day, Feb 25, 2002.

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  1. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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    Hi, Ed!
    I agree with you but for a different reason. I do not and cannot follow men! Your Father is the Everlasting Day or the Ancient of (earthly) Days. "Time" is a non-occurance in eternity. There is just one never ending day. All earthly days are "the Lord's days"! But His Rest Day can only happen when all humanity are removed from spiritual Babylon and Egypt (this earth) and enter Heaven in the "absolute end" when this earth will be erased by fire. Then this will happen:

    Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the Lord, so shall your seed and your name remain. 23 And it shall come to pass, [that]
    from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the Lord.

    Now I suppose you want to know what this means if time as we know it is irrelevant! Okay, check it out! One son/daughter pair is the equivalent of one spiritual day (1000 earthly years). Go to http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v3gn/manistim.html

    Happy eternal life to YOU and yours!

    GOOD NEWS, Inc. :wave:
     
  2. Terri

    Terri Senior Veteran

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    Hi Camaro540,

    This is how much grace I have--

    I have nothing but grace through faith in Christ Jesus.

    I have no righteous act that is going to save me--no not one.

    I rely solely on Jesus' righteousness to save me--oh and what joy that brings--joy unspeakable.

    Anyone who wants to know this great joy of trusting in Jesus' righteousness rather than their own should read the book of Galatians over and over until it sinks into their souls just how much grace we all have in Our Lord Jesus. Then move on to Romans and read it over and over again.


    LK 13:22 Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, "Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?"
    He said to them, 24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door , because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, `Sir, open the door for us.'
    "But he will answer, `I don't know you or where you come from.'


    Grace through faith in Jesus is that narrow door! Don’t try to take any of your own righteousness through that door—it won’t fit!

    LK 18:9 To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everybody else, Jesus told this parable: 10 "Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood up and prayed about himself: `God, I thank you that I am not like other men--robbers, evildoers, adulterers--or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.'

    LK 18:13 "But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, `God, have mercy on me, a sinner.'

    LK 18:14 "I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted."


    Please accept Jesus' righteousness--please enter through the narrow door.

    Love you in the Lord

    Terri
     
  3. GreenEyedLady

    GreenEyedLady My little Dinky Doo

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    Can you please pull up some verse that show us how Christ honored the Sabbath Day??
    Thanks
    GEL :hug:
     
  4. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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  5. futuresoldier

    futuresoldier guided by Jesus

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    I think that some of the point of the sabbath is that, even if we don't want to, our earthly bodies and minds have to have time to rest (not just sleep)- if you don't believe that try coming to my school and working non-stop for all the time available, seven days a week.
     
  6. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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    Yo! Green Eyes!

    Here is a little ammo for your shotgun!
    Check this out:

    Luke 13:14 And the ruler of the synagogue answered with indignation, because that Jesus had healed on the sabbath
    day, and said unto the people, There are six days in which men ought to work: in them therefore come and be healed, and not on the sabbath day. 15 The Lord then answered him, and said, [Thou] hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or [his] *** from the stall, and lead [him] away to watering?
    16 And ought not this woman, being a daughter of Abraham, whom Satan hath bound, lo, these eighteen years, be loosed from this bond on the sabbath day? 17 And when he had said these things, all his adversaries were ashamed: and all the people rejoiced for all the glorious things that were done by him.

    KJV Luk 6:1 And it came to pass on the second sabbath after the first, that he went through the corn fields; and his disciples plucked the ears of corn, and did eat, rubbing [them] in [their] hands. 2 And certain of the Pharisees said unto them, Why do ye that which is not lawful to do on the sabbath days? 3 And Jesus answering them said, Have ye not read so much as this, what David did, when himself was an hungred, and they which were with him; 4 How he went into the house of God, and did take and eat the shewbread, and gave also to them that were with him; which it is not lawful to eat but for the priests alone? 5 And he said unto them, That the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. 6 And it came to pass also on another sabbath, that he entered into the synagogue and taught: and there was a man whose right hand was withered. 7 And the scribes and Pharisees watched him, whether he would heal on the sabbath day; that they might find an accusation against him. 8 But he knew their thoughts, and said to the man which had the withered hand, Rise up, and stand forth in the midst. And he arose and stood forth. 9 Then said Jesus unto them, I will ask you one thing; Is it lawful
    on the sabbath days to do good, or to do evil? to save life, or to destroy [it]? 10 And looking round about upon them all, he said unto the man, Stretch forth thy hand. And he did so: and his hand was restored whole as the other. 11 And they were filled with madness; and communed one with another what they might do to Jesus.

    As we see here Jesus was labeled a Sabbath breaker, not a Sabbath keeper!

    GOOD NEWS, Inc. :holy:
     
  7. camaro540

    camaro540 Regular Member

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    Again, I see everyone pin-pointing the laws of the
    pharisee's.

    Are you kiding me? Healing someone on the Sabbath is not
    a sin, and I never said it was. (Thats Love)

    Not keeping the Sabbath is a sin.

    If you do your own work on the Sabbath, and not show Gods
    Love, and spend time with Him and For Him, then you are
    breaking one of Gods commandments.

    And as far as this website that says all will go to Heaven, and
    that no one shall be lost, is completely a bag of lies from Satan
    himself.

    If thats what you all want to believe, then thats okay with me.
    Thats your choice, no problem, we can still be friends. :)

    Patrick
     
  8. truthseeker2758

    truthseeker2758 New Member

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  9. camaro540

    camaro540 Regular Member

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    Why must you label me as a Seventh Day Adventists?
    Again, another way of man, he has to put a label on things
    he (man) does not understand.

    Labeling things are just a way to justify what you think.

    legalistic?
    Being accused of obedience to God is definitely a compliment.
    I am a believer in Christ, and I keep God’s commandments,
    Thank You.

    Your saying I don't have faith?
    Your saying I don't have salvation?

    Okay.

    Yes, that is correct.


    I trust Messiah Yeshua/Jesus, and have no doubt of my salvation.
    It is because of Him that my works mean anything at all.

    Faith without works is dead.

    Rev 14:12
    Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that
    keep the commandments of God , and the faith of Jesus.

    Patrick
     
  10. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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    Hi, camaro540!

    It was the Pharisees take on the law, which claimed Jesus was a Sabbath breaker. Jesus knew God's true Rest Day was yet to come. You need to take that veil off your eyes! Why was Jesus born except to save the world and why did he die except to take away all sin? Every Christmas and Easter blind Christians do a lot of pontificating, but in practical reality, you do alot of "denying" that Jesus actually accomplished both things he was born to do and died to do. This makes you "anti -Christ" by rejecting and not believing in his SUCCESS! Feast on this:

    KJV 1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    KJV 1Jo 4:14 And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son [to be] the Saviour of the world.

    KJV 2Co 5:18 And all things [are] of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; 19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

    Now if you say Jesus did not accomplish all he was born to do, YOU ARE ANTI-CHRIST. If you want to see the anti-Christ go to your mirror!

    GOOD NEWS, Inc. :wave:
     
  11. tericl2

    tericl2 A Work in Progress

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    Camaro540,

    You still haven't answered my question. :scratch: What is missing out of the commandments in Matthew 19 that Jesus told the rich man he had to follow to have everlasting life??

    In His grace
     
  12. Terri

    Terri Senior Veteran

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    Hi Patrick,

    Patrick, please keep the Sabbath--enter Jesus' Sabbath Rest.



    Jesus is our Sabbath! Jesus is the real Sabbath you are to keep. You keep the Sabbath by accepting Jesus’ sacrifice and his righteousness and thereby entering into his Sabbath-rest. All religions except true Christianity have to work their way to heaven by their “good” deeds. It’s in our human nature to be self-righteous—to have bragging rights—to think we “earned it”. That is why Jesus is referred to as the “stumbling block”. It is hard to get past our self-righteous nature, to humble ourselves and to accept the free gift of salvation.



    Heb 4:9 There remains, then, a Sabbath-rest for the people of God; 10 for anyone who enters God's rest also rests from his own work, just as God did from his. 11 Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will fall by following their example of disobedience. (NIV)


    MT 18:2 He called a little child and had him stand among them. 3 And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Therefore, whoever humbles himself like this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.


    It’s hard to humble yourself and put your life in someone else’s hands but I promise you God will never disappoint you if you humble yourself, forget your own “righteous” deeds and accept Jesus’ sacrifice and his righteousness.


    Patrick please don't do your own work--please enter Jesus' Sabbath-rest by accepting Jesus' "work".

    Love you in the Lord

    Terri
     
  13. camaro540

    camaro540 Regular Member

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    Today there are worldly wise, philosophers "vain in their
    imaginations" who using the example of Jesus teach men to
    disobey Gods commandments. They are preaching "Another
    Jesus". Many pagan practices that have absolutely no scriptural
    basis have been accepted, by many believers as the worship of
    Christ. These practices have not only been accepted but have
    become commonplace in the organized church. Those who refuse
    to participate in these practices are considered strange. These
    practices, introduced gradually by false teachers, have been
    accepted through tradition and have absolutely no scriptural
    basis. We have no excuse for ignorance. We have been fairly
    warned:

    2Pe 2:1
    But there were false prophets also among the people, even as
    there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in
    damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them,
    and bring upon themselves swift destruction.


    We must search the scriptures to find out the truth. The truth
    that the ways of the LORD prescribed for His people have not
    changed, nor will they change. Activities unacceptable to the Lord
    6000 years ago are still unacceptable today.

    Christ said:
    Mat 15:8
    This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and
    honoureth me with [their] lips; but their heart is far from me.


    Mat 15:9
    But in vain they do worship me, teaching [for]
    doctrines the commandments of men.


    The prophesies of the Bible have come true: The time has come
    when sound doctrine is not endured. People receive teachers
    who tell them what they want to hear. Things that are wrong are
    justified, explained away: disregarding the warning,

    Isa 5:20
    Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that
    put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for
    sweet, and sweet for bitter!


    Fables and the traditions of men are substituted for the
    truth:

    Jud 1:18
    How that they told you there should be mockers in the
    last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.


    2Ti 4:3
    For the time will come when they will not endure sound
    doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves
    teachers, having itching ears;


    "Christianized" pagan activities, traditional inventions of men, are
    not in honor of the Biblical Jesus.

    What Jesus do you honor? "another Jesus"?
     
  14. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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    Yo! Dude!

    It is time to wake up! NO HUMAN being is going to any "lake of fire and brimstome"! READ: Psa. 2:6-8, John 10:29, 17:12. You don't KNOW God! Check this out:

    http://www.goodnewsinc.net/YouStandSpotless.htm
    http://www.goodnewsinc.net/eternalife.htm
    http://www.goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/IndisputableTruth.htm
    http://goodnewsinc.net/v4gn/forallmen.htm

    Who convinced you Jesus FAILED to do his job? You NEED to get persuaded like Paul! Romans 8:18-23,38-39.

    "Seek and ye shall FIND"!

    GOOD NEWS, Inc. :clap:
     
  15. truthseeker2758

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    Rev 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
    Rev 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
    Rev 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
    Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
    Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    IF YOUR NAME IS NOT WRITTEN IN LAMBS BOOK OF LIFE SLAIN FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD YOU GO TO THE LAKE OF FIRE.
     
  16. camaro540

    camaro540 Regular Member

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    goodnewsinc

    I don't know what else to say to you. You simply want to lead
    people astray. You refuse to see the truth in our Fathers word.
    You are a false teacher, and I have no doubt that you will
    lead many astray, but this is one soul Satan does not have rights
    to anymore.

    I see that you haven't read Revelations......

    Patrick
     
  17. truthseeker2758

    truthseeker2758 New Member

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    Time to shake the dust off my feet.

    later folks, :( :( :( :( :( :(
     
  18. tericl2

    tericl2 A Work in Progress

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    I must disagree with this. I read your links. Don't be mistaken....there is sin, and there is a judgement coming and there is an eternity to be spent away from God (damnation) if you don't accept the gift of Jesus Christ by faith. I don't necassarily want to start a debate here about it but there are too many new believers and non-believers here to let that go without a challenge.

    In Christ
     
  19. goodnewsinc

    goodnewsinc Senior Member Supporter

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  20. truthseeker2758

    truthseeker2758 New Member

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    I do not believe the teachings of man. Just the one true Bible: The King James Version. Some of the books that you get your information from are not in the King James Bible.

    I do not know what or who you believe in but that is what you believe. It is not the truth of the Word of God.

    God is going to punish sin. Do not be mistaken. You are saved or you are not saved and there is no in between.

    Jesus said ye must be born again. One can not be a Christian and a spirtualist or whatever you are. :eek: :eek:
     
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