The Possible Year of the Second Coming in 2027 AD Based on the Jubilee Year Cycles and the 1290 and

[Jipsah]

We still don't know the day nor the hour. The year, or proximity if it, we can come to know

Interesting attempt to evade what our Lord said. Lemme know how it turns out.

 

[Jipsah]

Am I not on here soul winning you people?

Really?

 

[Jipsah]

Listen, if you want to reject knowledge

I'll accept it when I see some. Opinions don't count.

Obviously prophecy is given to us that we may study it, not that we may blindfold our eyes and throw in the towel.

Our Lord says we're not gonna know, no weaseling out of it. "Oh, but He didn't say we wouldn't know the minute/second/fortnight/whatever...". Please.

 

[throughfiierytrial]

We're always going to be one day closer than we were yesterday. That's just the nature of time.

How close, however, is unknowable. If we could know that then Jesus would have told us, but He didn't. Instead He talks about a thief coming in the night, He says that when the master returns it's when the servant doesn't expect it, He compares it to the days of Noah when people were living their lives as normal when--without warning--the flood came.

As far as our modern troubles. Students of history know that every generation experiences its own travails and troubles. Imagine you were alive when the Black Death ravaged Europe; or imagine you were alive when the Huns invaded, or the later Mongol hordes. Imagine you were living in Constantinople when the Ottomans sieged the city with gunpowder weapons. As far as corruption is concerned, when Martin Luther visited Rome what he witnessed was open corruption, he saw brothels operating in the city that catered exclusively to monks. There were popes in the middle ages that had elaborate orgiastic parties. There were rampant heresies and doomsday cults; and church officials when trying to deal with heresy often resorted to terrible acts themselves, such as the Cathars and the massacre of the Cathars. During the Protestant Reformation some radical groups violently overthrew local leaders and tried to establish an earthly kingdom of God in order to be harbingers of the coming end of the world.

We need to have perspective about these things. Is secular acceptance of non-heterosexual sexuality worse than, say, 80 years ago when Jews were being burned in ovens and sent to gas chambers by the Nazis across Europe? Is current corruption in churches (which certainly does exist) worse than corruption in the past?

Perspective is not just important, it's essential in order to be sober-minded and clear-headed about these things.

-CryptoLUtheran

It certainly is true that each day we are closer.

No man knows the last day as though we can predict His coming and Jesus certainly did not give us such a date, but He did give mention of signs and warns to keep watch over our lives and conduct. He also warns that the love of most will grow cold. (This sentence alone tells us that the world gets progressively more corrupt so that just as with each passing day we grow closer to the end, so also the world grows more corrupt. Again and again Jesus tells us to keep watch! The fact that the last day will come as a flood or a thief in the night does not negate these additional biblical facts either. Noah, a preacher of righteousness, kept watch and was prepared for the flood. So also we must stay vigilant and prepared.

Apostle Paul in Timothy also passes on these teachings of Christ…evils of the last days, destructive false doctrine, etc. and such warnings are there for a reason…warnings to keep watch and conduct ourselves properly.

Today’s corruption in the churches as well as in society and its rapid and destructive force are very alarming and certainly a cause for Christian concern and a strong reminder that the end is knocking at the door.

Hebrews tells us we must not stop meeting together as is the manner of some, but all the more as we see the day approaching!

 

[Dave Watchman]

I like this thread, I like the OP. I think I know who he is. He knows I know who he is. I don't think he's right, but I like the guy. He's using the correct formula from Daniel, just the wrong start date. Not 457/458. There's two more recent start dates, not based on the ancient decrees. And it's way more accurate than trying to count Jubilee Cycles since creation, or the Crucifixion, not that the Bible really told us to do such things.

I worry about the OP because he also said somewhere else that the second coming would be in the fall of 2026, so he was expecting the Two Witness to begin in 2023. But nothing happened. Or not what the OP thought was going to happen. For a while he thought they were here, just not yet identified. I think they were just here and did their thing, their 1260 days have expired. They're laying in the streets now for the 3.5 days, which are 3.5 years, waiting for the loud voice from heaven to say: "Come up here."

I think it's sooner than the OP does. I think it's happening now. I'm sure of it. Sure. Like I said in this thread in 2017, it's happening now, right before our eyes.

No one knows the time...

When people mention the end of Days, people start freaking out either saying 1) we're crazy, 2) this has been going on for a long time, or 3) let's don the white sheets.. But it must be closer than we would think. We are seeing a de-evolution of socitety and signs that never were accepted by society in general in former days (e.g. homosexuality, corruption of church doctrine, relativism, etc.) that now are common place (written about in 2 Tim 3).

You pretty much hit the nail right here. I'm on news forums like telegram and X. Even the Agnostics from time to time ask off the cuff: "is any of this stuff Biblical?" "Are we at the end of days?" But then you come to Christian platforms and they argue against it.

There is a certain interesting pattern that prior to Israel was about 2,000 years, the nation of Israel lasted about 2,000 years, and the church age is about 2,000 years old. I don't wish to put too find a point on this, or feel like there is a calculating formula, but there does seem to be a timeline of around 2,000 years when everything seems to resets itself.

You can almost eyeball it just from this alone. 2000 years from creation to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Christ, 2000 years from Christ in 30AD, to 2030. And here we are. But there is a calculating formula. It's much more accurate to the actual year. And it's not hard math at all. And it's happened already. So Jesus has already proved the templates we have been given to use. Early in Mark, Jesus said that the "time" had been fulfilled. That same specific "time" interval has been fulfilled once again. We are living in the last Heptad of it.

I wouldn't let it worry me though, I can't wait to see it. I can't wait to be it. (excitement)

Isaac Newton would have loved to see one of our days.

 

[HarleyER]

But there is a calculating formula. It's much more accurate to the actual year. And it's not hard math at all. And it's happened already.

I have seen several of the formula. Some use a generation from 40, 80, 120 years from the formulation of Israel. I've thought, that I've never shared, that time was divided into three periods with the first 2,000+ years before the formation of Israel, the 2,000+ years that Israel was actually a nation, and then the last 2,000+ of the church age. In any of the formulas (except the 40 years) we come out about the same timeframe.

I hesitate to put an exact date on it, but the signs more than ever are starting to show. In the past Christians could simply move away from the evil of society (like the Puritans). No more. Given the various formulas, the signs, and the warnings we are given in Scripture, I think we are very close.

But it doesn't matter much. John Wesley and Charles Spurgeon, when asked what they would do if they knew Christ would return tomorrow replied the same thing they had planned to do.

 

[Panthers]

This study is available in Spanish here.
...

The world came to a Biblical end when the population hit the divine number of 7,778,742,049 people.
This occured on April 2020 according to world population stats. Mark 13:32
At the time that 7778742049 people were reached, the entire world was hiding in their caves and covering their faces Revelation 6:15-17
because of the beast of the earth, who is the wuhan horseshoe bat. Revelation 13:11

42 months after April 2020, October 7 2023. Revelation 11:2 Revelation 13:5

7 years after April 2020 = April 2027

 

[Panthers]

Dear Brothers and Sisters of the Christian Faith,

I hope this letter finds you in good health. I am writing to share a series of revelations that I believe are deeply tied to the times we are living in and the prophecies found in Scripture. Over the last decade, I have witnessed several events that point to the fulfillment of key biblical...

www.christianforums.com

 

[Dave Watchman]

I have seen several of the formula. Some use a generation from 40, 80, 120 years from the formulation of Israel. I've thought, that I've never shared, that time was divided into three periods with the first 2,000+ years before the formation of Israel, the 2,000+ years that Israel was actually a nation, and then the last 2,000+ of the church age. In any of the formulas (except the 40 years) we come out about the same timeframe.

What you're doing is that 6000 years since creation, or when Adam sinned, and then the 1000 year millennium. With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like a day. Six one thousand day years God is taking to deal with the problem of sin. C.J. Lovik is using that idea to come up with 2030, and then subtracting 7 years for the start of the tribulation. I'm keeping an eye on him because I know he's correct with the year of the Crucifixion. (30AD)

I hesitate to put an exact date on it, but the signs more than ever are starting to show. In the past Christians could simply move away from the evil of society (like the Puritans). No more. Given the various formulas, the signs, and the warnings we are given in Scripture, I think we are very close.

I agree we're close. I wouldn't put an exact date on it either. I don't have an exact date, more like an exact time frame which it has to happen in. I have a month, but I could never tell if it's the beginning or the end of that month. I don't really want to know. I'm happy with what I have already. It could happen before the timeframe runs out. Jesus said He will raise us up on the last day of something. I'll leave that up to His Father in heaven to determine.

But it doesn't matter much. John Wesley and Charles Spurgeon, when asked what they would do if they knew Christ would return tomorrow replied the same thing they had planned to do.

I don't believe them. They lied. They must have thought it would sound cool. What if they were planning to do something stupid like fly to France and take pictures of the Eiffel Tower? Lol. Or would you call the roofers and cancel the shingle job? Why have all the banging going on the day when Jesus returns?

There's other people on the net using the same formula as me. One of them has moved the goal posts, because events are not transpiring like he thought the Apocalypse should be. He's using stone plaques he found from the sabils of Old Jerusalem with dates carved in a couple years latter. The other guy made the mistake of picking an exact date in October. I feel so sorry for the guy. I can't post his disappointment video. He just looks like he could cry. He's a good guy though, I can tell he loves the Lord. I believe it's coming quick enough, that he won't be disappointed for long.

 

[Dave Watchman]

The world came to a Biblical end when the population hit the divine number of 7,778,742,049 people.

I don't think this is correct, but I suspect something similar is going on now. God is waiting for a specific number of saints. And it's why only the Father can know the day and the hour of His Son's return. If Jesus would never blot our name out from the Book of Life, the names were already written in there by the Father from before the foundation of the universe.

These people are also asking when Jesus returns:

“O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”​

They're told to wait.

"Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.​

God seems to looking for a specific number, before He calls the "last day".

 

[Panthers]

I don't think this is correct, but I suspect something similar is going on now. God is waiting for a specific number of saints. And it's why only the Father can know the day and the hour of His Son's return. If Jesus would never blot our name out from the Book of Life, the names were already written in there by the Father from before the foundation of the universe.

These people are also asking when Jesus returns:

“O Sovereign Lord, holy and true, how long before you will judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?”​

They're told to wait.

"Then they were each given a white robe and told to rest a little longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brothers should be complete, who were to be killed as they themselves had been.​

God seems to looking for a specific number, before He calls the "last day".

No one knew the day or hour that 7,778,742,049 people would hit. The number itself is secretly hidden within the Book of Revelation but was revealed long before the number was fulfilled. (2013)

The number has divine roots not only in Revelation, and world population, but in math. (fibonacci sequence)
When the number was reached, the state of the world had ended. Triggering a 7 year tribulation.
Exactly 42 months into the 7 year tribulation, (2020) War breaks out in Israel.
Coincidence? Hardly!

Then I discovered this bit of information today.

According to population clocks and oil charts, April 18th, 2020 was the start of the 7 year tribulation.

 

[Dave Watchman]

According to population clocks and oil charts, April 18th, 2020 was the start of the 7 year tribulation.

I don't think the article people are correct, I think they're a couple years too late. I think it has to be happening now. But that's just me, I have to default to the earliest date. So that I won't be late. Lol.

Jesus said early in Mark that the "time" had been fulfilled. That was the Daniel 9 "time", the 7 and 62 weeks, which was in 27AD. Jesus died on April 7, 30AD. I can count Passover by conjunction, like I think Jesus did. It's the only "week" where it works out that way that matches with the Artaxerxes decree in 457BC.

But I also think that you are a smart cat Panthers. I also bought oil related equities when oil went negative on the June contract during Covid. People thought the world was ending. I think it is too. I called it my Apocalypse trade. There were some great Canadian oil producers which were 30 or 40 bucks a share when oil was $100.00 and above. I could load up at 2 bucks a share. But it appears the financial community is not buying it. Their behavior is as if a war economy will eventually crash the commodity again. Now I'm a foolish virgin.

It sounded like Jesus told some of the virgins twice to buy oil, just prior to the Bridegroom coming.

“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’​

​

“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.​

I also don't think it has to be exactly 2000 years from the Crucifixion. That's too easy. Then everyone would know we are in one of the days of the Son of Man. The Daniel 9 materials takes precedent over the the 6 1000 year day deal, or two 1000 year "days".

That's about how it's looking to me right now.

 

[Panthers]

I don't think the article people are correct, I think they're a couple years too late. I think it has to be happening now. But that's just me, I have to default to the earliest date. So that I won't be late. Lol.

Jesus said early in Mark that the "time" had been fulfilled. That was the Daniel 9 "time", the 7 and 62 weeks, which was in 27AD. Jesus died on April 7, 30AD. I can count Passover by conjunction, like I think Jesus did. It's the only "week" where it works out that way that matches with the Artaxerxes decree in 457BC.

But I also think that you are a smart cat Panthers. I also bought oil related equities when oil went negative on the June contract during Covid. People thought the world was ending. I think it is too. I called it my Apocalypse trade. There were some great Canadian oil producers which were 30 or 40 bucks a share when oil was $100.00 and above. I could load up at 2 bucks a share. But it appears the financial community is not buying it. Their behavior is as if a war economy will eventually crash the commodity again. Now I'm a foolish virgin.

It sounded like Jesus told some of the virgins twice to buy oil, just prior to the Bridegroom coming.

“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’​

​

“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.​

I also don't think it has to be exactly 2000 years from the Crucifixion. That's too easy. Then everyone would know we are in one of the days of the Son of Man. The Daniel 9 materials takes precedent over the the 6 1000 year day deal, or two 1000 year "days".

That's about how it's looking to me right now.

You are on target.
Glad to meet you.

 

[Panthers]

I don't think the article people are correct, I think they're a couple years too late. I think it has to be happening now. But that's just me, I have to default to the earliest date. So that I won't be late. Lol.

Jesus said early in Mark that the "time" had been fulfilled. That was the Daniel 9 "time", the 7 and 62 weeks, which was in 27AD. Jesus died on April 7, 30AD. I can count Passover by conjunction, like I think Jesus did. It's the only "week" where it works out that way that matches with the Artaxerxes decree in 457BC.

But I also think that you are a smart cat Panthers. I also bought oil related equities when oil went negative on the June contract during Covid. People thought the world was ending. I think it is too. I called it my Apocalypse trade. There were some great Canadian oil producers which were 30 or 40 bucks a share when oil was $100.00 and above. I could load up at 2 bucks a share. But it appears the financial community is not buying it. Their behavior is as if a war economy will eventually crash the commodity again. Now I'm a foolish virgin.

It sounded like Jesus told some of the virgins twice to buy oil, just prior to the Bridegroom coming.

“ ‘No,’ they replied, ‘there may not be enough for both us and you. Instead, go to those who sell oil and buy some for yourselves.’​

​

“But while they were on their way to buy the oil, the bridegroom arrived. The virgins who were ready went in with him to the wedding banquet. And the door was shut.​

I also don't think it has to be exactly 2000 years from the Crucifixion. That's too easy. Then everyone would know we are in one of the days of the Son of Man. The Daniel 9 materials takes precedent over the the 6 1000 year day deal, or two 1000 year "days".

That's about how it's looking to me right now.

I was watching the world population clock for 7778742049.
The day was April 18th 2020.
(no one knows the exact day or time)
However, the oil chart for that time proved more ...

This fulfillment triggered a serious of fulfillments...(or at least what I believe)

 

[Jamdoc]

I don't think neumerology is the way God intended for us to know about prophecy, but watching for signs, and parables, illustrations of what the situation will be like.

Namely the ones that stand out to me are the parable of the good and wicked servant, the wicked servant, because he thought "this isn't my master's return" began to go apostate, and attack their fellow servants, etc. So before the Lord comes there's going to be a great time of apostasy from the church, where churchgoers become hypocrites and fall away.
and.. the parable of the wise and foolish virgins, all were asleep, and then at midnight, the alarm is raised, they all wake up, and bear lamps, 5 wise with extra oil to refil their lamp, and 5 with no extra oil. Now I hear a lot of talk and speculation explaining what people think the oil is, Holy spirit and whatnot.
But what I never really hear is, what the sleep represents, what the night represents, and what the midnight call is that wakes them all up, and what the lanterns are.

I believe the sleep represents our own unawareness of our current day, people not waiting for signs because of belief they'll be gone before any of it. The night represents the 70th week, and the call at midnight would then be the abomination of desolation. The sign that we know means.. Jesus is coming back within 3.5 years at the latest. That wakes everyone up, but now they know what's coming, and adds urgency to the sharing of their testimony during tribulation (the lantern, their testimony, the thing Revelation 12 says they overcome the dragon with.) Those with the oil can keep their testimony burning longer in persecution.
and so, the bridegroom comes and takes the bride into the wedding feast AFTER the call at midnight.

and so, what we should be paying attention that could happen, is the Abomination of Desolation, knowing that involves at least an altar or tabernacle, or a temple, as sacrifices have to begin first to be ended. I know there are historical interpretations to this, but did Jesus come back within 42 months? I don't think so. So I think that's gonna be our wakeup call. Until that, everything else is speculation.

 

[Diamond72]

100% of people trying to calculate and predict the 2nd coming have been wrong 100% of the time.

How do you know that future predictions are going to be wrong?

 

[Jipsah]

How do you know that future predictions are going to be wrong?

Better questiion: why should we believe them?

 

[Dave Watchman]

You are on target.
Glad to meet you.

Agreed, the feelings mutual.

I was watching the world population clock for 7778742049.
The day was April 18th 2020.
(no one knows the exact day or time)
However, the oil chart for that time proved more ...

I was happy to see you post this. Besides myself, you are the only other person I've seen notice the oil price in 2020 as a probable indicator of the end times.

 

[Dave Watchman]

I don't think neumerology is the way God intended for us to know about prophecy, but watching for signs, and parables, illustrations of what the situation will be like.

It's still numerology. I don't like the word either because it makes me think of occult and astrology. It's not the same as gematria though. Biblical numerology. Google says: "any belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events. So think of it as Biblical numerology. The study of Biblical numerology. A Divine relationship between a number and a coinciding event. In the Books of Daniel and Revelation there are 18 special numbers, 18 prophetic time periods. "Ology", numerology, is just a study of those numbers. Seven and sixty two weeks, until Messiah the Prince.

The night represents the 70th week,

Jesus is coming back within 3.5 years

42 months?

And so you list some of the numbers we study. God's numbers.

and so, what we should be paying attention that could happen, is the Abomination of Desolation, knowing that involves at least an altar or tabernacle, or a temple, as sacrifices have to begin first to be ended.

This is like the story from the Hal Lindsey book. Wait for a rebuilt temple. Wait for an Antichrist to make a covenant. Wait to see sacrifices start up again. Wait for him to stop the sacrifices. Then we'll know we're in the end times.

But if I'm right in reading the Newton numbers, the bifurcated timeline he suggested from Daniel 9, these things had to have started happening around half ways through 2021, to early 2022. If newton was right in his commentary, some of the verses in Daniel 9 had to be speaking specifically to a whole and complete "week" which would be happening now.

Realize there were two services in the temple. The word "sacrifice" was inserted by the King James translators. It originally just said the "daily", or the "continual". This was at the golden alter, the alter of incense. Look at that scene from Revelation 8 where the angel cast down the censer.

So what I'm saying for the controversial forum is that these things are happening now. Verse 9:26 was all about a "week" in the first century. Jesus was cut off in the middle of that week.

Fast forward to our time and we get the week of 9:27. Jesus is confirming a covenant with many during this week.

27Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

But in the middle of the week​

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.​

And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,​

Even until the consummation, which is determined,​

Is poured out on the desolate.”​

This is not any part of a "week" in the first century. This is a complete and full "one week" that He, Jesus, is confirming a covenant with many. It began in January 2018 with the Two Witnesses in operation. They stand before the Lord of the whole earth, not before mankind. Only God can see them. They are the measuring rod given to John that measures the inner court, the judgement of the living prior to Christ's return.

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. This is the end of probation. Two Witnesses made war on and killed. This would have been around late summer/fall of 2021. There are two services in the Temple. The last one to end is seen in Revelation 8. The censer is used at the alter of incense. When that censer is cast down to earth, Jesus puts a final end to all sacrifice and offering. "He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. This was the casting down of the censer in Heavens temple.

"And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,​

Even until the consummation, which is determined,​

Is poured out on the desolate.”​

These are multiple abominations in our modern times. Murders, adulteries, abortions, pornographies, same sex marriage, and the popularization of the Sodomite culture.

Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolator.” (Satan).

There are a wide range of translations for Daniel 9 that range in disagreement, even with the original Hebrew that Daniel wrote.

Even some of the English translations the translator will insert "temple", on the wing of the "temple" Lol.

There's even one English translation what writes it like Daniel did, "Seventy seventy are decreed.

Moshe Cohen thinks there's two sets of "70" in Daniel 9, but he thinks the first "70" was that Babylonian captivity. He's fun to watch anyway.

I believe the time to post the empirical is past. So I'll stop short of reviewing the dates. We'll just have to wait and see now. Like Newton said: "let time be the interpreter".

 

[Jamdoc]

It's still numerology. I don't like the word either because it makes me think of occult and astrology. It's not the same as gematria though. Biblical numerology. Google says: "any belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events. So think of it as Biblical numerology. The study of Biblical numerology. A Divine relationship between a number and a coinciding event. In the Books of Daniel and Revelation there are 18 special numbers, 18 prophetic time periods. "Ology", numerology, is just a study of those numbers. Seven and sixty two weeks, until Messiah the Prince.





And so you list some of the numbers we study. God's numbers.

This is like the story from the Hal Lindsey book. Wait for a rebuilt temple. Wait for an Antichrist to make a covenant. Wait to see sacrifices start up again. Wait for him to stop the sacrifices. Then we'll know we're in the end times.

But if I'm right in reading the Newton numbers, the bifurcated timeline he suggested from Daniel 9, these things had to have started happening around half ways through 2021, to early 2022. If newton was right in his commentary, some of the verses in Daniel 9 had to be speaking specifically to a whole and complete "week" which would be happening now.

Realize there were two services in the temple. The word "sacrifice" was inserted by the King James translators. It originally just said the "daily", or the "continual". This was at the golden alter, the alter of incense. Look at that scene from Revelation 8 where the angel cast down the censer.

So what I'm saying for the controversial forum is that these things are happening now. Verse 9:26 was all about a "week" in the first century. Jesus was cut off in the middle of that week.

Fast forward to our time and we get the week of 9:27. Jesus is confirming a covenant with many during this week.

27Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;

But in the middle of the week​

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.​

And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,​

Even until the consummation, which is determined,​

Is poured out on the desolate.”​

This is not any part of a "week" in the first century. This is a complete and full "one week" that He, Jesus, is confirming a covenant with many. It began in January 2018 with the Two Witnesses in operation. They stand before the Lord of the whole earth, not before mankind. Only God can see them. They are the measuring rod given to John that measures the inner court, the judgement of the living prior to Christ's return.

He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. This is the end of probation. Two Witnesses made war on and killed. This would have been around late summer/fall of 2021. There are two services in the Temple. The last one to end is seen in Revelation 8. The censer is used at the alter of incense. When that censer is cast down to earth, Jesus puts a final end to all sacrifice and offering. "He was given much incense, that he should offer it with the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar which was before the throne. This was the casting down of the censer in Heavens temple.

"And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,​

Even until the consummation, which is determined,​

Is poured out on the desolate.”​

These are multiple abominations in our modern times. Murders, adulteries, abortions, pornographies, same sex marriage, and the popularization of the Sodomite culture.

Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolator.” (Satan).

There are a wide range of translations for Daniel 9 that range in disagreement, even with the original Hebrew that Daniel wrote.

Even some of the English translations the translator will insert "temple", on the wing of the "temple" Lol.

There's even one English translation what writes it like Daniel did, "Seventy seventy are decreed.

Moshe Cohen thinks there's two sets of "70" in Daniel 9, but he thinks the first "70" was that Babylonian captivity. He's fun to watch anyway.

I believe the time to post the empirical is past. So I'll stop short of reviewing the dates. We'll just have to wait and see now. Like Newton said: "let time be the interpreter".

When God actually gives a number you use that because it's in the text.
but when God doesn't give a number and people try to calculate based on "hidden meanings of numbers" is what I'm talking about.
Jesus gave signs, not dates.