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The Partial Preterist Believers Safe House

Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by 1disciple, Apr 15, 2013.

  1. random person

    random person 1 COR. 10:11; HEB. 1:2; HEB. 9:26,28; 1 PET. 1:20

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    It is a dangerous theology!

    The Third Temple is an absolute requirement.

    An Anti-Christ is an absolute requirement.

    They anticipate great wars between Israel and the Arab nations.

    They anticipate Damascus being turned into a heap of ruins.

    They anticipate Armageddon.

    They anticipate two thirds of all Jews facing their destruction. But God already judged the nation of Israel in 70AD and effectively erased from history the Old Covenant system, the Temple, and Temple sacrifices for 1,944 years now. But the Dispys and Pre-Mills deny this and believe God and the Jews are due for a second round. No I stand corrected, this will be the third round (Babylon Captivity).

    Dangerous and pessimistic...
     
  2. Keachian

    Keachian On Sabbatical

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    Yay facebook discussions where I'm the only amil :p
     
  3. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    No you aren't...check my profile...AMIL...:thumbsup:

    Thing is...it's tough to tell amil from partial preterist...they're pretty close.
     
  4. Keachian

    Keachian On Sabbatical

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    Facebook discussions Ebed, Cogent is another amill
     
  5. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    My bad. Great...:thumbsup:
     
  6. parousia70

    parousia70 I'm livin' in yesterday's tomorrow Supporter

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    Hit me with a PM too Lou...
     
  7. Notrash

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    Ever read 3 world wars by Albert Pike? I think the literal/futurist views ha e been cultivated for momuch more than 200 yrs. 1 john 4:1
     
  8. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    This is a great free book called "Days of Vengeance". The author is David Chilton, a Reformed Presbyterian.

    He does a very good job with it. You can download and save it free in ".pdf" format here:

    http://www.rpts.edu/media/TheDaysofVengeance-Chilton.pdf

    I hope it helps you all in your study!! :cool:
     
  9. Keachian

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    It seems we are being labeled full preterists because of our unified stance on the Olivet Discourse talking about AD70, what should we do about this ideas?
     
  10. Fenwick

    Fenwick Non Nisi Te Domine

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    Unity terrifies futurists, it's alien to them. ^_^

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  11. Notrash

    Notrash Senior Member

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    Rejoice???
     
  12. Keachian

    Keachian On Sabbatical

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    I do suppose that in the light of their descent into ad hominem that that would be a logical response, marana tha.
     
  13. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    You stay the course progmonk. You simply give them things to think about, because in most cases, their resorting to the typical attacks that are not about rightly dividing scripture.

    Think about the fact that you're opposing something (in most cases), that people have believed for years...and your position is saying their wrong.

    Then there's also the fact that some are simply puppeting what their "pet teachers" say.

    I can only hope, (that as with me), the reading of scripture causes them to question these things...because for me many years ago, it was reading and studying that caused me to step back and take another look!

    Too many saints are simply sitting in pews allowing their pastor/teachers to feed them instead of really getting into the scriptures (and that's on a mass scale).
     
  14. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    This is a very good scriptural refutation to the dispensational/futurist claim of 1948 being a fulfillment of prophecy by William Hendrickson. It shows the total disregard of historical fulfillment, that is rather mind boggling at times. Read it carefully here:

    http://thirdmill.org/newfiles/wil_hendriksen/wil_hendriksen.RestorationProphecies.html

    If one takes their time and reads this and really read the prophecies that Hendricks provides, it's very easy to see the flaws of the dispensational futurist positon of eschatology. :thumbsup:
     
  15. Fenwick

    Fenwick Non Nisi Te Domine

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    If only futurists could take it on the chin and realize how horribly they err.

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  16. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    Just hope and pray for the best.

    Some may find this thread I created interesting:

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7392923-99/#post52748967
    How much of Matthew 24 is fulfilled. Poll thread.

    View Poll Results: Amount of Matt 24 fulfilled:

    I view all of it fulfilled [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] 39 24.38%
    I view it as mostly/partially fulfilled [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] 66 41.25%
    I view it as none of it is fulfilled [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] 22 13.75%
    I don't really know [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] 15 9.38%
    Other [please explain] [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] 18 11.25%

    BTW, Josepus gives an accout of that event, showing how it fulfilled both the OT and NT propecies.


    The Destruction of Jerusalem - George Peter Holford, 1805AD

    Proof that Matthew 24 was fully fulfilled in 70 AD!



    The Destruction Of
    JERUSALEM
    An Absolute and Irresistible
    PROOF OF THE DIVINE ORIGIN OF
    CHRISTIANITY:
    INCLUDING A NARRATIVE OF
    THE CALAMITIES WHICH BEFEL THE JEWS


    "I consider the Prophecy relative to the destruction of the Jewish nation,
    if there were nothing else to support Christianity, as absolutely irresistible."
    (Mr. Erskine's Speech, at the Trial of Williams, for publishing Paine's Age of Reason)




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  17. LittleLambofJesus

    LittleLambofJesus PESKY DEVIL! GIT! l SAID GIT! Supporter

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    :)

    Go to a safer place? :p

    http://www.christianforums.com/t7784643/

    Full Preterist Safe House


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  18. ebedmelech

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    This is a great read of G. K. Beale on "The Israel of God"...and the problem those who don't understand it have. Those who reject the "Israel of God" will always want clear words from scripture to say the "Israel of God" is all believers, or the church, made up of Jews and Gentiles. Which is why Paul consistently will say these things:

    *God is not a respecter of persons.

    *Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing.

    *There is no difference whether Jew or Gentile, male or female, bond or free.

    They will agree with those things...BUT...they will not admit the fact that there is a Spiritual Israel, and they further will not correlte the OT prophecies, to what the NT apostles teach with regard to Israel! Particularly Romans 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, and 11, where Paul lays very good ground work to that end.

    This G. K. Beale article does a great job in showing why there is an Israel of God. I hope it helps you.

    Peace and Mercy Upon the Israel of God: The Old Testament Background in Galatians 6:16 By G.K. Beale1111111

    Link:
    G.K. Beale[bless and do not curse] - Peace and Mercy Upon the Israel of God: Partial Preterist Section @ PreteristArchive.com, The Internet's Only Balanced Look at Preterism and Preterist Eschatology
     
  19. Keachian

    Keachian On Sabbatical

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    Beale's work on Temple is also quite good, just loving it at the moment
     
  20. ebedmelech

    ebedmelech My dog Micah in the pic Supporter

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    It is quite insightful!

    Another thing that helps with the temple is Alfred Edresheim's work "The Temple—Its Ministry and Services."

    :thumbsup:
     
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