The flat earth

[JNB2]

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[JNB2]

It has been known for several mellinnia that the earth is spheroid in shape.
As simple as that.
There is proof of this and none that the earth is flat.
Here is just one. Check out "Horizon and estimating the distance to the horizon" and see which one matches reality....flat or globe....
Example. Due to the curvature of the earth why can the man in the crow's nest see farther to the horizon than the man on the bridge ?
If the earth was flat, what difference would it make ?

 

[JNB2]

The problem is that some Fundamentalists interpret the word circle as a flat circle rather
than a sphere. There seems to be some disagreement on the subject.
You also have to realize this in the context of when it was written.
This would have been before discoveries were made to prove the earth was a sphere and this written in the language of those times.
But please be assured that the earth is a globe and has been known for several millenia.
This was known long before NASA and space travel.
There is nothing Satanic about this. This was just the way God made the earth.
I have worked in some areas in which the curvature of the earth must be comsiderd which proves the earth is a globe. There are many examples of this in the real, or "Globular" or "Round Earth,"

 

[squirrel123]

What strikes me as interesting in all (and yes, it has happened in all!) these flat-earth threads, is as soon as someone posts proof of a globe that can't be argued away, the thread dies down, and a few weeks later a new one is created, repeating all the same arguments....

It's quite fascinating, really!

 

[JNB2]

You should read some of the stuff on "The Flat Earth Society" websites ! LOL

 

[JNB2]

Just another thought. This may just the opinion of one person I heard - who said he considered the King James version of the Bible to be THE Bible - and he would only read from it - because - (these are his exact words) : "The Saint (sic) James Bible is the only Authorized Bible."

You have to consider the "authorized" was by King James of Scotland and the language of the translation was that of 1611 English.

 

[JNB2]

I really just started this to see if there were really any flat earth believers outside of The Flat Earth Society.
I had just assumed that everyone knew the earth was a globe until I happened on flat earth websites (I can't remember how, but quite by accident ) and some "Flat Earth Christian" websites who hold that saying the earth is a globe is the worst of sins and NASA is anagram for Satan.

 

[JNB2]

What strikes me as interesting in all (and yes, it has happened in all!) these flat-earth threads, is as soon as someone posts proof of a globe that can't be argued away, the thread dies down, and a few weeks later a new one is created, repeating all the same arguments....

It's quite fascinating, really!

As you may have noticed, that seems to be what has happened on this thread. LOL.

 

[JNB2]

The sun does not move but it seems to. The world is not flat but it seems to be. I am not old, I just look old.

The sun does not move but it seems to. The world is not flat but it seems to be. I am not old, I just look old.

(1) The sun appears to move because it is the earth that moves. It is something like being on a merry-go-round. You are moving but things appear to you as if they were moving.

(2)Because of your vantage point if you are just standing on the ground and the earth is so large that the earth appears flat to you. One of the best examples is at sea.
Even if you were in a crow's nest, which is about 100 feet above the level of the sea level, your view would be limited by the distance to the horizon, which would only be about 12 miles.
(Reference : U.S. Naval Manual For Lookouts : Estimating Distances)
The formula for estimatimg the distance to the horizon :
The distance in miles (d) = 1.22 (a constant) times (x) the square route of the height above sea level of the observer in feet (h)
If you were in a rowboat at sea level, you could only see about 2 to 3 miles to the horizon.

These are some of the best examples for the globe.
(1) Rotation of the earth : 1 revolution in 24 hours, day and night

(2) Curvature of the earth. : Distance to the horizon increases with the height of the observer.

These might seem puzzling to those who lived on a flat area of land.
But they are very familiar to those whose work is based on the globe.

Besides, the fact that earth is a globe has been known for at least several thousand years and there is no evidence that the earth is flat.

 

[JNB2]

It is really useless and a waste of time trying to explain why the earth is a golbe to some of these people.
For some reason they seem to believe that mis-interpreting and taking things out of context is proving their point.
But for any persons who might have doubts about the shape of the earth :
The earth is a globe. It may be very slightly not a perfect sphere.
And all those ship captains and the rest of the world aren't satanic demons. And that goes for NASA in particular. A lot of them are probably a lot more devout Christians than a lot of these so-called "flat earth believers." But as far as I have observed you are never going to convince them that the earth is not some flat disc.So it useless and a waste of time, so maybe better to just leave them be and move on.

 

[Goatee]

Earth is a sphere................Simple

 

[SistrNChrist]

It seems that people are trying to make the Bible out as a scientific book when it is written in the language of the common people. Such phrases as "the four corners of the earth" is slang for from everywhere and it is a rather common saying, so I don't understand this wooden literalism we have in display.

You hit the nail on the head there. Some people who believe in the flat earth theory as well as dinosaurs not existing are trying to turn the Bible into a science textbook, when it was never intended to be read as such. Again, the phrase "the four corners of the earth" should never be taken as literal corners, but rather a figurative term that means that God will gather His people from every last part of the earth.

 

[JNB2]

You hit the nail on the head there. Some people who believe in the flat earth theory as well as dinosaurs not existing are trying to turn the Bible into a science textbook, when it was never intended to be read as such. Again, the phrase "the four corners of the earth" should never be taken as literal corners, but rather a figurative term that means that God will gather His people from every last part of the earth.

I am in agreement with you two, too.

I have noticed there are quite a number of so-called "flat earth believers" who believe that Issaiah 40:22 says the earth is flat because it says "circle."

I have even seen one so-called "christian forum" that says "You can not be a true 'born-again Christian" if you don't believe the earth is flat and you believe that the earth is a globe."

Also that NASA is hiding the fact that the earth is flat. Also that NASA is an anagram and a symbol for "Satan" and they are nothing but liars, satanists and satan-worshippers....And that goes for all the scientists, engineers, physicists, astronomers, et cetera, et cetera and so forth.

IMHO people like that are giving Christians a bad name ?
Isn't there something about "bearing false witness" ?

I have had the advantage of being in the Navy and working on some radar systems, radio communications systems and microwave repeater systems. All of these have to take in the curvature of the earth in their design or operation. So I know from first hand experience that the earth is the globe (or spheroid) that it is. But not everyone has had that advantage and may not know anything about those things.

But again it's just my IMHO that people who don' t know anything about them who say that they don't prove that the earth is a globe since they are all "fakes" is a very bad thing to say. I won't go so far as to be judgmental but I think it might be just a little on the sinful side.

 

[EmmaCat]

Well, if the Earth is flat, explain why pilots of planes don't fall over the edge on autopilot. If it's flat, somebodys got to turn around, right?

 

[Sketcher]

Well, if the Earth is flat, explain why pilots of planes don't fall over the edge on autopilot. If it's flat, somebodys got to turn around, right?

Government conspiracy.

 

[EmmaCat]

I don't believe anything of government or religious conspiracies. That is a waste of time and energy.

 

[Joshua_5]

Just a question since I am a guest here. If the world is flat (I kind of think you aren't really serious) why can one fly both east and west and end up at the same location.

Why can one move around a pool either clockwise or counterclockwise, and still end up at the same location? The answer is the same.

 

[Joshua_5]

Government conspiracy.

Antarctica is the edge, and planes don't fly over Antarctica (all the way).

 

[Joshua_5]

Hello friends Im Jerry. I read recently a theory that the Earth is not a globe like they tell us but is flat. There seems to be proof in the Bible too. Isaiah 40:22, Genesis 10-11, Proverbs 8:27, Ezekiel 5:5, and others
I believe the Bible is right in everything, and it seems to me to say that the Earth is flat. Im not against science but when it goes against God's truth I am. There seems to be science to back up a flat Earth too. Google 'Flat Earth Society'.
I dont know much about the specific math stuff but it seems legit.
Also, Ive realized Jesus surely didnt think the Earth was round. I have never heard of our Lord being wrong in anything so could he be wrong in this? I dont know. Its making me have to decide between my strong commitment to the Bible's word but also to what science tells us. Obviously theyve been wrong before (evolution, etc.) but this is big. I don't know

What does everyone else think?

Thank you for listening and God Bless

Jerry

I'm a Christian, and believe Earth is flat, because of what the bible says. Most Christians do not even get that heliocentricity is a lie (this is required if Earth is flat).

Why does the Earth seem motionless?

Geocentricity: Because it is motionless.
Heliocentricity: It only seems motionless because it's spinning at a perfectly uniform speed with no acceleration or deceleration ever and the atmosphere is magically velcroed to it. Actually the Earth is spinning on it's axis at 1,000 mph, rotating around the Sun at 67,000 mph, which is orbiting the Milky Way at 500,000 mph and shooting through the known Universe at 67,000,000 mph. We don't feel even the slightest bit of this motion because all the centrifugal, gravitational, and inertial forces somehow perfectly cancel out.

Why do the Sun and Moon appear to be the same size?

Geocentricity: Because they are the same size.
Heliocentricity: They only appear to be the same size because of an incredibly perfect parallax perspective from Earth. Actually the Sun is 1.392x10^6 km in diameter and 1.496x10^8 km from Earth. The Moon is 3474 km in diameter and 384,403 km from the Earth. And these just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size.

Why do the Sun, Moon, and Stars all appear to revolve around a stationary Earth?

Geocentricity: Because they do.
Heliocentricity: The Moon does revolve around the Earth, but the Earth actually revolves around the Sun, and all the stars only seem to revolve around the Earth because the Earth itself is spinning beneath your feet!

Why do we never see the rotation of the Moon?

Geocentricity: Because it doesn't rotate.
Heliocentricity: Both the Moon and the Earth are actually rotating but they are doing so in such a way that from our perspective it seems that neither are. The Earth is spinning East to West at 1,000 mph while orbiting the Sun at 67,000 mph. The Moon is spinning West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting the Earth at 2,288 mph. These motions/speeds perfectly cancel out so that the Moon always only shows us one side.

Why do the stars appear to be fixed along a celestial sphere?

Geocentricity: Because they are.
Heliocentricity: The stars only appear to be fixed along a celestial sphere because they are so incredibly far away. Even after hundreds of millions of miles of our (supposed) orbit around the Sun, the stars appear in the exact same positions at the exact same meridian times because they are many "light-years" away. A light-year is approximately 6 TRILLION miles away and that is why they falsely seem fixed from our faulty perspective.

 

[GeorgeJ]

Why can one move around a pool either clockwise or counterclockwise, and still end up at the same location? The answer is the same.

Really bad analogy. Moving around a pool requires you to change direction. Flying around the world from east to west or vice-versa does not.

Try moving "around" a pool in one direction and you'll end up in the middle of the pool and never get back to the pool once you climb out of the other side. Unless of course you walk around the world...THEN you'll end up back at the pool!