The flat earth

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Flawless logic. Other possible reason might be that stegosaurs sucked at writing and their oral tradition got bit of setback in the form of huge kinetic impact on Yucatan Peninsula around 66 million years ago.

Hello Dawn. Of course we don't expect dinosaurs to be able write. But written human records do not go any further back than we would expect given a literal reading of Holy Scripture. So either this is a massive co-incidence that confirms a literal reading of the bible or those 66 million years are pure fantasy. God Bless You :)
 
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But written human records do not go any further back than we would expect given a literal reading of Holy Scripture.

They go back about 5,500 years. Before that we have things like cave paintings.
 
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They go back about 5,500 years. Before that we have things like cave paintings.

The Hebrew alphabet was invented about 3800 YBP as a very clever manipulation of Egyptian hieroglyphs. Our intellectual infrastructure took a long time developing but is increasing exponentially.
 
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You misinterpret the passage. In fact, Paul quotes pagan philosophers several times in his epistles.

Are you aware that all the planets in our so called solar system are named after pagan deities.

QUOTE NIGTC.
The final description, κατὰ τὰ στοιχεῖα τοῦ κόσμου (“according to the elemental forces of the cosmos”), is also enigmatic and has spawned a huge debate (see bibliography in G. Delling, TDNT 7.670; Bandstra, Law 5–30; Schweizer, “Elemente” 147–48; O’Brien, Colossians, Philemon 129–32; Sappington 164–68). The basic meaning of στοιχεῖον is “element,” and here, where the immediate context is dominated by cosmic categories (2:9–10, 15), the most obvious reference in the full phrase is to the elemental substances of which the cosmos was thought to be composed (earth, water, air, and fire—as the term is used in Wis. 7:17 and 2 Pet. 3:10, 12), by far the most common usage in literature prior to Paul. However, as Philo knew well, these substances could be understood (mythologized or personified) as spirits or given the names of deities (De vita contemplativa 3; De decalogo 53). “The divinization of the elements was a commonplace in the whole Graeco-Roman period” (Wink 74).
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Also, in your reply to Jack, you are assuming that those who do not believe the earth is round are not educated. Many of the early church Fathers rejected the idea of the antipodes and even Luther and Calvin had reservations, Augustine did not believe it either, The bible is clear that the earth is fixed and immovable. We are not spinning through the universe as you imagine, we are stationary, up is up and down is down.

Please Research Flat Earth.
 
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Are you aware that all the planets in our so called solar system are named after pagan deities.

Yes. Those names come to us from the Babylonians and Persians. What's your point?

The basic meaning of στοιχεῖον is “element”

What's your point? Are you referring to 2 Peter 3:10?

Also, in your reply to Jack, you are assuming that those who do not believe the earth is round are not educated.

Indeed, they are not.

Many of the early church Fathers rejected the idea of the antipodes and even Luther and Calvin had reservations, Augustine did not believe it either

But they believed in a round earth. Their issue was:
1) If everyone came from the Garden of Eden [as the Bible says], and
2) If the equatorial region is too hot to travel through [as was believed], then
3) There can be no people living in the Southern Hemisphere.

Please Research Flat Earth.

Given all the evidence, only a fool would believe that the earth is flat. If you lived in Australia, for example, you would be able to see the Southern stars revolving around the South Celestial Pole:

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My point is that Paul in Colossians warns us about believing in this cosmology that you are holding onto.

No, he never mentioned it.

And it is not true that all the early church fathers believed the earth was round.

Really? There are always idiots, I guess. Can you name anybody other than Lactantius?
 
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