The 10 Commandments are done away!

[bugkiller]

Ok, lets dive into this response. You apparently believe that the only commandments we are to keep is to believe in Jesus's name and to love one another by your post. Lets get into some problems with this.

How does simply believing get you any standing? Don't the demons believe and tremble? Why aren't they saved?

Loving one another - what does this really mean? Does it mean we hug and kiss and slap each other on the back and say "hey buddy"? Love is dedication and devotion in scripture. All of the commandments are summed up in love the Creator and love your fellow man. This is how it works:

If I love the Creator I will:

Not worship other deities
Not bow down to idols
Not take his name in vain and make it worthless
Not break the sabbath on the 7th day
Honor my parents
Treat others well
Keep His feast days
Not learn the ways of the pagans and do likewise to Him, etc

If I love my fellow man I will:

Not steal, not commit adultery, no murder, not bear false witness, not covet my neighbors stuff
I won't hate anyone in my heart, bear grudges, have false weights, not help others in time of need, etc.

These are all part of the torah. Then you get someone come along and call it "Law thumping" like it is a bad thing. The law is what defines love, it defines how our walk should be and it is the condition of one saved.

Grace does indeed save, but you must walk His path of purification to make sure your wedding garments are white. He does not marry the lawless.

Rom_6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Romans 4

bugkiller

 

[jason1]

Oh bugkiller, put away your raid bottle. You keep spraying me with poison but I am no ant!

You're lacking in agricultural knowledge.

I'm not really sure why you said this to try and discredit me, but for your information I have been a farmer for 18 years.

You and John are talking about different commandments, besides that you you have no idea what the faith of Jesus is.

Different commandments? Did Jesus bring a whole separate list than His Father had? It's funny because I remember Jesus say he came only speaking his Father's words (now where are those found?). Oh, and btw, he is the Word made flesh (hint: word = torah)

You break it every week and don't try to tell us you don't. All the Israelites that ever lived could not keep it. All you do is give lip service to it, besides Paul wrote that it was a temporary law that only served the Israelites.

You mean the Israelites COULD NOT take the 7th day off of work? Man, it must have been hard to rest back then. I take the 7th day off of work and yet you say I can't keep it? Who is fooling you about the sabbath? It is EASY to rest. Btw, Paul kept the sabbath and never said it was temporary, only false interpretation does that.

I could continue point by point with you but it serves no purpose between us. You still haven't posted what the new covenant is and who it is made with. Knowing those two points should clear up the controversy if approached with an open heart.

 

[2 know him]

Jesus didn't bring a higher standard than torah. What he did was give a proper interpretation of it. In verse 17 he says he didnt come to destroy (give a wrong interpretation) of scripture but to fulfill it (give a proper interpretation). This is a hebrew idiom.

So when you read through the rest of the chapter you will notice, "You have heard". This is a key phrase for hearing oral law. In their oral writings they have extra rules and clarifications of the written word and build their fences and burdens. Jesus is coming against some of those oral explanations and giving them a better clarification.

If he said, "It is written", then that would be a whole different ballgame. Jesus can not add to or take away from the law (torah) or else he would be a sinner. What he was doing here was teaching the truth of it.

You are mistaken on a few levels. First, Jesus did not speak English and often translators have a hard time translating concepts between languages. Actually, the only way to translate concepts properly, is to explain the meaning of the words, as there are often no words that equate with the words being translated, in order to give the hearer a proper understanding of the original meaning, and that is absolutely the case here. Here is the Greek root word that was translated into the word fulfil:
G4130
πλήθω
plēthō
play'-tho, pleh'-o,
A prolonged form of a primary word πλέω pleō (which appears only as an alternate in certain tenses and in the reduplicated form of πίμπλημι pimplēmi to “fill”

You see Jesus literally was saying he came to raise the standards of the law, and not only that the word law is derived from a Greek word that means a grazing pasture (
G3551
νόμος
nomos
nom'-os
From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage)).

You see, the Jews understood that they had a moral obligation, before God, to live by the highest principles possible and so they didn't just look to the Torah as their rulebook, they looked at the books of the prophets, as well as using reasonable arguments to live their lives: all these were considered law to them. It is on this bases that David ate the shew bread and was held guiltless and also the reason that the Pharisees accepted Jesus' arguments as to healing on the Sabbath day.

The word translated "destroy" actually doesn't mean destroy, but to rather it means disassemble something, or it can also be meant to free someone or something. Here are the compound Greek words which it is derived from:

G2596
κατά
kata
kat-ah'
A primary particle; (preposition) down (in place or time)


and

G3089
λύω
luō
loo'-o
A primary verb; to “loosen” (literally or figuratively)

And so Jesus was saying: don't think I have come to free you from your spiritual obligations, I have come to raise the standards.

So not only does Jesus say he came to raise the standards, but then he says: "That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you..." Jesus was not interpreting the law, he was raising the conscious awareness of people, as raised their awareness of good and evil and thus established a new understanding to their grazing pasture. Now, Matthew 5:17 doesn't look like a verse out of context: when we see what he really meant. Jesus was saying the righteousness of the Pharisees, the Torah, and the 10 commandments, is not high enough, as raised the bar of obligation: before God and to man.

 

[2 know him]

Jesus did not break the sabbath. Doing so would cause him to sin.

Again you are in err Jason1: Jesus was Lord over the Sabbath, not subject to it. Jesus lived by higher rules and was not subject to living by the lower rule of the law/Torah.

Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deu 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
Deu 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Jesus' words are God's words that mankind will be held accountable to. on Judgement day, not Moses':
Joh 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.
Joh 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.
Joh 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

 

[jason1]

2 know him - We really aren't far apart on your last two posts. Maybe its a bit of semantics.

My contention still is that Jesus could not add to or take away from the law (because that is part of the law). The definition of sin is breaking the law (1 john 3:4). So Jesus was indeed subject to all of the law and did not bring a new law or he would not be the perfect lamb of elohim. He kept every point perfectly (we can expound on this point if you wish). The words of Jesus are the same as the words of moses and both are the Words of YHVH.

Joh 15:10 “If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love,1 even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love.

That being said, you are right in the sense that Jesus came to show the spirit of the law. YHVH desires to be worshipped in spirit (intent of law) and truth (letter of law). The biggest thing that most christians get wrong is that there is another law at work in the NT which is man-made law (oral law). This is the beef that Jesus and Paul had with the religious leadership. Being more righteous than the pharisees means not thinking man made law will save you or get you bonuses, but only by going by the Word of Elohim (torah) and doing it in its intent. Remember, the pharisees were called hypocrites and vipers by Jesus.

Mar 7:13 nullifying the Word of Elohim through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such traditions you do.”

 

[Bob S]

You are mistaken on a few levels. First, Jesus did not speak English and often translators have a hard time translating concepts between languages. Actually, the only way to translate concepts properly, is to explain the meaning of the words, as there are often no words that equate with the words being translated, in order to give the hearer a proper understanding of the original meaning, and that is absolutely the case here. Here is the Greek root word that was translated into the word fulfil:
G4130
πλήθω
plēthō
play'-tho, pleh'-o,
A prolonged form of a primary word πλέω pleō (which appears only as an alternate in certain tenses and in the reduplicated form of πίμπλημι pimplēmi to “fill”

You see Jesus literally was saying he came to raise the standards of the law, and not only that the word law is derived from a Greek word that means a grazing pasture (
G3551
νόμος
nomos
nom'-os
From a primary word νέμω nemō (to parcel out, especially food or grazing to animals); law (through the idea of prescriptive usage)).

You see, the Jews understood that they had a moral obligation, before God, to live by the highest principles possible and so they didn't just look to the Torah as their rulebook, they looked at the books of the prophets, as well as using reasonable arguments to live their lives: all these were considered law to them. It is on this bases that David ate the shew bread and was held guiltless and also the reason that the Pharisees accepted Jesus' arguments as to healing on the Sabbath day.

The word translated "destroy" actually doesn't mean destroy, but to rather it means disassemble something, or it can also be meant to free someone or something. Here are the compound Greek words which it is derived from:

G2596
κατά
kata
kat-ah'
A primary particle; (preposition) down (in place or time)


and

G3089
λύω
luō
loo'-o
A primary verb; to “loosen” (literally or figuratively)

And so Jesus was saying: don't think I have come to free you from your spiritual obligations, I have come to raise the standards.

So not only does Jesus say he came to raise the standards, but then he says: "That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you..." Jesus was not interpreting the law, he was raising the conscious awareness of people, as raised their awareness of good and evil and thus established a new understanding to their grazing pasture. Now, Matthew 5:17 doesn't look like a verse out of context: when we see what he really meant. Jesus was saying the righteousness of the Pharisees, the Torah, and the 10 commandments, is not high enough, as raised the bar of obligation: before God and to man.

Very interesting, thanks. Giving Christians the royal law of love (love others as I have loved you) certainly did raise the standards. Love covers all aspects of morality. The law of Moses fell short.

 

[2 know him]

For all those who want to know and do that truth, this sums it up perfectly:

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of the Mighty One, and the faith of Jesus.

(these aren't new commandments here, they are from the torah)

Jason you err again: Jesus' words are the commandments referred to in Revelation: "
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have "commanded you".


1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

All of the texts here in 1st John reference Jesus' commandments, not Moses'.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments (this is a reference to Jesus' commandments: the Alpha and Omega) , that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

Here is a point that you would do well to consider: Jesus stated "whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven." Jesus wasn't preaching Moses' law, so "these" commandments could only refer to Jesus' words.

 

[2 know him]

2 know him - We really aren't far apart on your last two posts. Maybe its a bit of semantics.

My contention still is that Jesus could not add to or take away from the law (because that is part of the law). The definition of sin is breaking the law (1 john 3:4). So Jesus was indeed subject to all of the law and did not bring a new law or he would not be the perfect lamb of elohim. He kept every point perfectly (we can expound on this point if you wish). The words of Jesus are the same as the words of moses and both are the Words of YHVH.

Joh 15:10 “If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love,1 even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love.

That being said, you are right in the sense that Jesus came to show the spirit of the law. YHVH desires to be worshipped in spirit (intent of law) and truth (letter of law). The biggest thing that most christians get wrong is that there is another law at work in the NT which is man-made law (oral law). This is the beef that Jesus and Paul had with the religious leadership. Being more righteous than the pharisees means not thinking man made law will save you or get you bonuses, but only by going by the Word of Elohim (torah) and doing it in its intent. Remember, the pharisees were called hypocrites and vipers by Jesus.

Mar 7:13 nullifying the Word of Elohim through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such traditions you do.”

I think one would do well to recognize that the Dont's of the 10 Commandments don't tell you how to live and that is where they fall short. Jesus came to show us how to live and his words and ways are God's standards... the 10 Commandments fail to show a person how to live and thus they are useless in providing help to live righteously:

Heb 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Heb 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Heb 7:13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar.
Heb 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.
Heb 7:15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest,
Heb 7:16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.
Heb 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
Heb 7:18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
Heb 7:19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

 

[jason1]

I'm sorry, but Jesus did not come with his own, new law. He came only speaking the Father's words.

When he was giving the sermon on the mount he did not say people couldn't add or take away from HIS law, he was saying this about the Father's law (which is found in torah):

Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it1, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.

When Jesus says:

Joh_14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.

What he is REALLY saying is from here (the shema):

Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Yisra’ĕl: יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one!
Deu 6:5 “And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.
Deu 6:6 “And these Words which I am commanding you today shall be in your heart,
Deu 6:7 and you shall impress them upon your children, and shall speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up,
Deu 6:8 and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Deu 6:9 “And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.


What you are insinuating is that Jesus came to destroy the torah and add his own law on top of it. This would cause him to be a sinner, a false prophet, a deceiver, and a blasphemer. Is this the type of person you want to follow if this is true? (He is actually the son of elohim who upholds and does the Father's words which is way different than what you have stated)

 

[jason1]

And by the way, you are reading Hebrews wrong (make sure not to fall for italicized words that aren't really there). The commandment being talked about is the Levitical high priest. The whole book was about the day of atonement and the transferring of the priesthood to one that was previously established (Melchizedek).

 

[2 know him]

2 know him - We really aren't far apart on your last two posts. Maybe its a bit of semantics.

My contention still is that Jesus could not add to or take away from the law (because that is part of the law). The definition of sin is breaking the law (1 john 3:4). So Jesus was indeed subject to all of the law and did not bring a new law or he would not be the perfect lamb of elohim. He kept every point perfectly (we can expound on this point if you wish). The words of Jesus are the same as the words of moses and both are the Words of YHVH.

Joh 15:10 “If you guard My commands, you shall stay in My love,1 even as I have guarded My Father’s commands and stay in His love.

That being said, you are right in the sense that Jesus came to show the spirit of the law. YHVH desires to be worshipped in spirit (intent of law) and truth (letter of law). The biggest thing that most christians get wrong is that there is another law at work in the NT which is man-made law (oral law). This is the beef that Jesus and Paul had with the religious leadership. Being more righteous than the pharisees means not thinking man made law will save you or get you bonuses, but only by going by the Word of Elohim (torah) and doing it in its intent. Remember, the pharisees were called hypocrites and vipers by Jesus.

Mar 7:13 nullifying the Word of Elohim through your tradition which you have handed down. And many such traditions you do.”

Jesus did far more than just come to show us the spirit of the law he came to establish a NEW COVENANT:

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

I took out the words "according to" from verse 32, because they are not in the Hebrew manuscripts, they were added and when we read it the way it actually was written it is more powerful.

 

[2 know him]

I'm sorry, but Jesus did not come with his own, new law. He came only speaking the Father's words.

When he was giving the sermon on the mount he did not say people couldn't add or take away from HIS law, he was saying this about the Father's law (which is found in torah):

Deu 4:2 “Do not add to the Word which I command you, and do not take away from it1, so as to guard the commands of יהוה your Elohim which I am commanding you.

When Jesus says:

Joh_14:15 “If you love Me, you shall guard My commands.

What he is REALLY saying is from here (the shema):

Deu 6:4 “Hear, O Yisra’ĕl: יהוה our Elohim, יהוה is one!
Deu 6:5 “And you shall love יהוה your Elohim with all your heart, and with all your being, and with all your might.
Deu 6:6 “And these Words which I am commanding you today shall be in your heart,
Deu 6:7 and you shall impress them upon your children, and shall speak of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up,
Deu 6:8 and shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes.
Deu 6:9 “And you shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.


What you are insinuating is that Jesus came to destroy the torah and add his own law on top of it. This would cause him to be a sinner, a false prophet, a deceiver, and a blasphemer. Is this the type of person you want to follow if this is true? (He is actually the son of elohim who upholds and does the Father's words which is way different than what you have stated)

Jason can I ask you if you know what a covenant is?

IT IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT:

It is a NEW Covenant, a new Legal agreement: new laws/rules.

 

[jason1]

Why did you stop there?:

Jer 31:33 “For this is the covenant I shall make with the house of Yisra’ĕl after those days, declares יהוה: I shall put My Torah in their inward parts, and write it on their hearts. And I shall be their Elohim, and they shall be My people.

Who is putting the torah on their hearts? What torah is it? Please think this through to its logical conclusion.

You are right Jesus came to start the New Covenant, but it is the same terms as the old one, but with BETTER promises. There is lots to talk about on this subject if you wish.

 

[Bob S]

You mean the Israelites COULD NOT take the 7th day off of work? Man, it must have been hard to rest back then. I take the 7th day off of work and yet you say I can't keep it? Who is fooling you about the sabbath? It is EASY to rest. Btw, Paul kept the sabbath and never said it was temporary, only false interpretation does that.

WOW! if that is true then i have been keeping it for years and didn't know it. I have been retired for 20 years. Maybe you should do a little boning up before you put your fingers to the key board. We all didn't come up to the standards from:
Isaiah 58:13
“If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath and from doing as you please on my holy day, if you call the Sabbath a delight and the Lord’s holy day honorable, and if you honor it by not going your own way and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,

I could continue point by point with you but it serves no purpose between us.

If you have an open mind it serves a great purpose as I have pointed out in prior posts. Now you know more of what is required of you to really "keep" Sabbath. Wasn't that nice of me to take the time to help you?

You still haven't posted what the new covenant is and who it is made with. Knowing those two points should clear up the controversy if approached with an open heart.

Apparently either you didn't read my post where I pasted an elegant written explanation or you just plain ignored it like you do most of our replies. Anyway, I did respond and what you just wrote is not the truth.

By the way now that I looked back to find my reply I found that you didn't address your question to me. It was addressed to bugkiller and I took the opportunity to answer you. The post was #23.

You can led a horse to water.......

 

[Bob S]

Jason can I ask you if you know what a covenant is?

IT IS A LEGAL AGREEMENT:

It is a NEW Covenant, a new Legal agreement: new laws/rules.

Some will twist scripture anyway they see fit to fit their preconceived ideas. They will go to the extent to deny Paul was a real contributor to the Holy Writ because his writings are diametrically opposed to their beliefs, too bad.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Some will twist scripture anyway they see fit to fit their preconceived ideas. They will go to the extent to deny Paul was a real contributor to the Holy Writ because his writings are diametrically opposed to their beliefs, too bad.

It is an old debate tactic, If you can't win by an argument made supported by an authority then attack the authority itself. You could call it killing the messenger of bad news hoping it will destroy the message itself. But in this case Paul's message is good news.

 

[jason1]

I have not attacked Paul in the least. He supports my position in every instance, its just his interpretation of him is wrong by many christians because they do not understand the law he was attacking (oral law).

 

[Bob S]

Jason you err again: Jesus' words are the commandments referred to in Revelation: "
All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have "commanded you".


1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

All of the texts here in 1st John reference Jesus' commandments, not Moses'.

May I add that John answers what the commands are in 1Jn3:19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: 20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

 

[Bob S]

I have not attacked Paul in the least. He supports my position in every instance, its just his interpretation of him is wrong by many christians because they do not understand the law he was attacking (oral law).

Okay, lets put you to the test, tell us what the following scripture from Paul is telling us.
2Cor3:
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

Transitory:
1. not lasting, enduring, permanent, or eternal.
2. lasting only a short time; brief; short-lived; temporary.

Gal 3:10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.

19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come.

23 Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

 

[2 know him]

May I add that John answers what the commands are in 1Jn3:19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence: 20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and he knows everything. 21 Dear friends, if our hearts do not condemn us, we have confidence before God 22 and receive from him anything we ask, because we keep his commands and do what pleases him. 23 And this is his command: to believe in the name of his Son, Jesus Christ, and to love one another as he commanded us. 24 The one who keeps God’s commands lives in him, and he in them. And this is how we know that he lives in us: We know it by the Spirit he gave us.

Nice job Bob, you have helped me to further the points I normally make and this will help them have more weight. Thank-you.