So much for kids don't get Covid

[cow451]

And most go broke.

And your source for that is ... OJ?

 

[Caliban]

And your source for that is ... OJ?

It's a well known fact--you can Google it if interested.

 

[JohnDB]

"Immunity passports" in the context of COVID-19.

No one who catches this virus is immune from catching it again.

 

[ZNP]

And your source for that is ... OJ?

Post #14 provides a source

 

[cow451]

It's a well known fact--you can Google it if interested.

I’m smarter than google. I know when people are pulling .... facts... out of their backside.

 

[cow451]

Post #14 provides a source

Some guy throws out a “it is often said...” and you call that a fact? That’s Trump trash talk. No study, no data, no win for you. You’re benched!

 

[Caliban]

I’m smarter than google. I know when people are pulling .... facts... out of their backside.

I'm glad you feel smart.

 

[ZNP]

Some guy throws out a “it is often said...” and you call that a fact? That’s Trump trash talk. No study, no data, no win for you. You’re benched!

In fact, 78 percent of all NFL players are divorced, bankrupt or unemployed two years after leaving the game, according to Ken Ruettgers, a former player and current advocate for NFL players transitioning from professional sports.

Read the entire article. It is difficult to make a definitive statement and he explains that. But he is quoting those who work with former players. For example you can determine how many are unemployed, but is that by choice? Hard to say. The facts are that many NFL athletes do not have marketable skills once they are out of the game. Many are divorced which can wipe out their savings. Five years after they leave their health insurance runs out, and that is a time when they apparently start to really need it.

It can seem like making the minimum salary for three years is still good, but if you made a bad deal on a house, perhaps because you got traded and had to unload it quickly for a loss, and then you got a divorce. They are in the highest tax bracket. They had to pay an agent, it can be very believable that these guys are broke. We're not talking about the guys you know by name, we're talking about the 25 other guys on the team you can't name.

But how do you plan for a 50- or 60-year retirement?
Even if they are smart, don't waste their money, and invest wisely how do you plan on a 50 year retirement? If the average career in the NFL is 3 years half of the players play less than three years.

 

[cow451]

In fact, 78 percent of all NFL players are divorced, bankrupt or unemployed two years after leaving the game, according to Ken Ruettgers, a former player and current advocate for NFL players transitioning from professional sports.

Read the entire article. It is difficult to make a definitive statement and he explains that. But he is quoting those who work with former players. For example you can determine how many are unemployed, but is that by choice? Hard to say. The facts are that many NFL athletes do not have marketable skills once they are out of the game. Many are divorced which can wipe out their savings. Five years after they leave their health insurance runs out, and that is a time when they apparently start to really need it.

It can seem like making the minimum salary for three years is still good, but if you made a bad deal on a house, perhaps because you got traded and had to unload it quickly for a loss, and then you got a divorce. They are in the highest tax bracket. They had to pay an agent, it can be very believable that these guys are broke. We're not talking about the guys you know by name, we're talking about the 25 other guys on the team you can't name.

But how do you plan for a 50- or 60-year retirement?
Even if they are smart, don't waste their money, and invest wisely how do you plan on a 50 year retirement? If the average career in the NFL is 3 years half of the players play less than three years.

I read it all. It’s at best an opinion. There are about several thousand players on a roster at some point during the course of a season. To make such a pejorative statement based on zero actual research is slander.

 

[ZNP]

I read it all. It’s at best an opinion. There are about several thousand players on a roster at some point during the course of a season. To make such a pejorative statement based on zero actual research is slander.

The people making the statement are people who work trying to help these players get jobs after the NFL.

If you saw the movie Will Smith made about CTE you saw Mike Webster and other very famous, very successful football players depicted as ending up in a horrible situation. They were in their 40s and 50s and unable to function in society, much less hold down a job. Many other players get arthritis at a young age, and of course others had debilitating injuries which is why they left in the first place. I personally have known 3 former NFL players. One had a well paying career, one died in his 40s, the third I only knew when he was in his thirties, didn't know what happened after that.

If you feel the article is libelous why not take it up with the publisher.

But have you ever wondered why some of these athletes seem so bitter 20 years after they retire?

How Dan Marino, Vince Young and Other Broke NFL Players Lost Their Fortunes



Former stars explain why NFL players go broke, and what you can learn



Sports Illustrated estimated that 78% of former NFL athletes are broke.



There’s A Difference Between Broke And Bankrupt For Ex-NFL Players



Why Athletes Go Broke

 

[cow451]

The people making the statement are people who work trying to help these players get jobs.

If you saw the movie Will Smith made about CTE you saw Mike Webster and other very famous, very successful football players depicted as ending up in a horrible situation. They were in their 40s and 50s and unable to function in society, much less hold down a job. Many other players get arthritis at a young age, and of course others had debilitating injuries which is why they left in the first place. I personally have known 3 former NFL players. One had a well paying career, one died in his 40s, the third I only knew when he was in his thirties, didn't know what happened after that.

If you feel the article is libelous why not take it up with the publisher.

Data talks. Fertilizer walks.

 

[ZNP]

People are more likely to contract COVID-19 at home, study finds

SEOUL (Reuters) - South Korean epidemiologists have found that people were more likely to contract the new coronavirus from members of their own households than from contacts outside the home.

Schools could become the main vector of transmission.

 

[rjs330]

Wait, why can't we social distance, clean and wear masks in school? There are ways to do this. If masks prevent the transmission of this along with social diatancing washing hands, using sanitizer. There isn't a reason we need to shut down the schools. The teachers can do the same. You could have fewer subjects, and longer school days. You could even toss in a few on line classes as well.

 

[rjs330]

It doesn't look like other countries are still keeping their schools closed. There are some pretty good ideas out there.

School openings across globe suggest ways to keep coronavirus at bay, despite outbreaks | Science | AAAS

 

[ZNP]

Wait, why can't we social distance, clean and wear masks in school? There are ways to do this. If masks prevent the transmission of this along with social diatancing washing hands, using sanitizer. There isn't a reason we need to shut down the schools. The teachers can do the same. You could have fewer subjects, and longer school days. You could even toss in a few on line classes as well.

Well, let's check that. I have 30-35 kids in each of my classes, however for social distancing you can only have 9-10 kids in the same room (with 1-2 teachers). So if kids came to school 1 day a week you could get close. But you still have a problem with gym and cafeteria. Even if you figure out those two problems and you might, the final problem is the hallway. When the bell rings kids from two different classrooms (18-20 kids) will come out of the class into a hall that is about 1/10th the size, maybe even smaller. So even if you are practicing social distancing in the classroom you aren't in the hallway. Our school building has 2,000 kids and about 250 adults. Currently the idea is to cut the number of kids in half to 1,000 and still have 250 adults. So even though you need to cut it to one fifth to have any attempt at social distancing that is not the plan. These kids take the buses and subways to and from school. These buses and subways used to be crammed full, even if you cut the number of kids in half it will still be way too full to have social distancing. Also, think about this, restaurants and bars have been very good at transmitting the disease, people sitting in an enclosed space for 1 or 2 hours. In schools they are sitting together for 7 or 8 hours.

 

[rjs330]

Well, let's check that. I have 30-35 kids in each of my classes, however for social distancing you can only have 9-10 kids in the same room (with 1-2 teachers). So if kids came to school 1 day a week you could get close. But you still have a problem with gym and cafeteria. Even if you figure out those two problems and you might, the final problem is the hallway. When the bell rings kids from two different classrooms (18-20 kids) will come out of the class into a hall that is about 1/10th the size, maybe even smaller. So even if you are practicing social distancing in the classroom you aren't in the hallway. Our school building has 2,000 kids and about 250 adults. Currently the idea is to cut the number of kids in half to 1,000 and still have 250 adults. So even though you need to cut it to one fifth to have any attempt at social distancing that is not the plan. These kids take the buses and subways to and from school. These buses and subways used to be crammed full, even if you cut the number of kids in half it will still be way too full to have social distancing. Also, think about this, restaurants and bars have been very good at transmitting the disease, people sitting in an enclosed space for 1 or 2 hours. In schools they are sitting together for 7 or 8 hours.

Other countries are doing it. What are they doing differently?

 

[KCfromNC]

If masks prevent the transmission of this along with social diatancing washing hands, using sanitizer.

I don't think anyone who understands the disease thinks they are 100% perfect. They're methods for reducing the risk of interacting in public while doing essential tasks, not a panacea.

 

[KCfromNC]

Other countries are doing it. What are they doing differently?

Which countries? And what does the shape of the infection curve look like in those places?

 

[JohnDB]

Nobody wants change.
Everyone is usually resistant to change.
If we could go back in time to the world before 9-11 and live in that world travelling would be so much easier...fear would be lowered across the board.

But we aren't.

And now we have a pandemic that is going to change the way we live life for the next few years.
That is going to upset the apple carts for many dual income households with children.

It's going to change curriculum for teachers.

It's going to have an effect on school lunch and breakfast programs. (And associated unions, workers, and suppliers)

Then the makers of backpacks and school supplies and uniforms...all going to change.

Not to mention the increased cost of every household for some kind of daycare...fun company by the YMCA is definitely going to take a huge hit by this. (Mortgage defaults will increase in the short term)

Add all that up and now you are talking about trillions of dollars shouting down those who truly do have children's best interests at heart. Banking, labor unions, parents, wood and plastic manufacturing, bus manufacturing, oil industry, food sector, and etc.

Not hard to see the money trail on this one.

This is huge amounts of money. These are the dollars that form K Street in Washington DC. You think that they aren't going to say anything?

 

[rjs330]

Which countries? And what does the shape of the infection curve look like in those places?

School openings across globe suggest ways to keep coronavirus at bay, despite outbreaks

Reopening the World: Reopening schools—Insights from Denmark and Finland

Countries Around The World Are Reopening Schools. Here's What The U.S. Can Learn.

It seems there is a way to do this. We need to open the schools this fall. For the kids sake of their education.