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John 5:43

I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive

I believe the Antichrist is going to come as the Jewish, not Muslim, Messiah. Jesus said if another comes in his own name, they will receive him as the Messiah.

Also, we know the Antichrist is going to say that he is God in the temple of God. Jesus and others call this the abomination of desolation.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God

Matthew 24:15-22

Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

My theory is this. The Antichrist comes and reveals himself as the Jewish Messiah, and the Jews embrace him. The whole world becomes convinced that he is the Messiah because of the supernatural signs, and worships him. The dome of the rock is removed and the temple of God is rebuilt. 3 1/2 years into it, the Antichrist says that he is God himself. I think this is probably when the Jews realize that Jesus was the real Messiah:

Zechariah 12:10-14

And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.
 
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It's was all over in 70 AD the things happened bc soon means soon and not something else. And it meant soon as it was written back then. That is in fact the only sound doctrine that holds up truth.
Mr. Don K Preston has this proved beyond anyone else at debates he literally owns everyone else.
 
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No more than UFO's. The point is that they are unidentified. We a familiar with aeroplanes not unidentified objects that come in all shapes and sizes and behave in ways that break the conventional laws of physics.

Na, ofo sightings are always blobs or blurs or CGI
 
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That's your opinion and I respect that. I just have a different interpretation. Please just bear in mind what i have told you about what will happen so that you are prepared when it does.

Na, i just put my trust in God alone. I am not looking for the end of the world. Nobody can claim to have interpreted Revelations correctly. For all we know it can mean something absolutely different to how Theologians read it!!!
 
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It's was all over in 70 AD the things happened bc soon means soon and not something else. And it meant soon as it was written back then. That is in fact the only sound doctrine that holds up truth.
Mr. Don K Preston has this proved beyond anyone else at debates he literally owns everyone else.

Waw! Thanks for bringing that guy to my attention.

I have watched several of his videos this morning and he makes a ton of sense!!! He, to me, seems to be on the money! What he says fits together like a jigsaw!
 
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John 5:43

I have come in My Father’s name, and you do not receive Me; if another comes in his own name, him you will receive

I believe the Antichrist is going to come as the Jewish, not Muslim, Messiah. Jesus said if another comes in his own name, they will receive him as the Messiah.

Also, we know the Antichrist is going to say that he is God in the temple of God. Jesus and others call this the abomination of desolation.

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4

Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God

Matthew 24:15-22

Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

My theory is this. The Antichrist comes and reveals himself as the Jewish Messiah, and the Jews embrace him. The whole world becomes convinced that he is the Messiah because of the supernatural signs, and worships him. The dome of the rock is removed and the temple of God is rebuilt. 3 1/2 years into it, the Antichrist says that he is God himself. I think this is probably when the Jews realize that Jesus was the real Messiah:

Zechariah 12:10-14

And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn. In that day there shall be a great mourning in Jerusalem, like the mourning at Hadad Rimmon in the plain of Megiddo. And the land shall mourn, every family by itself: the family of the house of David by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Nathan by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of the house of Levi by itself, and their wives by themselves; the family of Shimei by itself, and their wives by themselves; all the families that remain, every family by itself, and their wives by themselves.

I agree the Jews play their role in the end times too but not as the Anti-Christ, instead the High Priest of the soon to be built third temple will be the False Prophet. Only last year the official process for selecting the High Priest began. The sacrifices will be started up with the agreement of the Muslim Mahdi Anti-Christ at the beginning of the 7 year world wide peace agreement that the AC will make with many countries. But of course the AC will stop the sacrifices half way through this 7 year treaty.
 
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It's was all over in 70 AD the things happened bc soon means soon and not something else. And it meant soon as it was written back then. That is in fact the only sound doctrine that holds up truth.
Mr. Don K Preston has this proved beyond anyone else at debates he literally owns everyone else.

I'd rather put my trust in God than man. God's son Jesus has not returned yet. You're going to be very shocked once the Anti-Christ takes over the world and may well fall for Satan's end times alien deception.

However, please post a link to Dr Preston's teaching on this point as I would like to hear it for myself. Thanks.
 
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Na, i just put my trust in God alone. I am not looking for the end of the world. Nobody can claim to have interpreted Revelations correctly. For all we know it can mean something absolutely different to how Theologians read it!!!

You need to therefore read what the Bible says we should;

Luke 21:36
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."

Mark 13:36
If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37 What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ ”
 
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You need to therefore read what the Bible says we should;

Luke 21:36
Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man."

Mark 13:36
If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. 37 What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’ ”

'Suddenly', yes, at death! Be prepared in your life. Be prepared in your belief and love of God. Doesn't necessarily mean that the end of the 'world' is coming. More likely, 'our' own individual 'ends'.
 
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'Suddenly', yes, at death! Be prepared in your life. Be prepared in your belief and love of God. Doesn't necessarily mean that the end of the 'world' is coming. More likely, 'our' own individual 'ends'.

"watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.""

Escape what? Death? No of cause not; It is warning us to escape the delusion and not be fooled by it, otherwise you will not be able to "stand before the Son of Man." as it says.
 
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'Escape' could very well mean that you have time, in your life to escape what may happen to you if you are not prepared in your soul etc.

Not when you put in to context;

Signs of the End Times

25“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

29He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree [Israel] and all the trees [Nations]. 30When they sprout leaves [become prosperous] , you can see for yourselves and know that summer [The harvest of souls at the end] is near. 31Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

32“Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.33Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

34“Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”
 
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Not when you put in to context;

Signs of the End Times

25“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26People will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.”

29He told them this parable: “Look at the fig tree [Israel] and all the trees [Nations]. 30When they sprout leaves [become prosperous] , you can see for yourselves and know that summer [The harvest of souls at the end] is near. 31Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near.

32“Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened.33Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

34“Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with carousing, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you suddenly like a trap. 35For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth. 36Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man.”

You put your own words in to suit your own belief!

This generation.............That happened in 70AD.

I believe it has happened. 70AD. Jesus was on about the Jews and Jerusalem.
 
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You put your own words in to suit your own belief!

This generation.............That happened in 70AD.

I believe it has happened. 70AD. Jesus was on about the Jews and Jerusalem.

No it didn't

27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

That clearly has not happened!

Nor this:

35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.
 
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No it didn't

27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.

That clearly has not happened!

We dont know what they saw in Jerusalem as most were wiped out!
 
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We dont know what they saw in Jerusalem as most were wiped out!

It says:
35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.

Not just in Jerusalem.

there are over 80 verses in the OT alone that foretell the 'The Great and Terrible Day of the Lord'!

Don't you believe Jesus is coming back?

And there were plenty of witnesses and accounts of what was seen.
 
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It says:
35 For it will come on all those who live on the face of the whole earth.

Not just in Jerusalem.

there are over 80 verses in the OT alone that foretell the 'The Great and Terrible Day of the Lord'!

Don't you believe Jesus is coming back?

And there were plenty of witnesses and accounts of what was seen.

I do believe that Jesus is coming back.

Great and terrible day was in 70AD.

I think 99% of Revelations has come and gone.
 
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