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Lol...........All made up stuff! Why is it, that whenever you get so called footage of UFO's etc they are always out of focus etc etc etc. lol
This would totally fly on LDS threads because they believe the Father has a human body and lives on a planet called Kolob.
 
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In both respect and honesty, I've got limited interested in re-litigating this with you. You laid out the basic case in your initial post... but with no evidence. You explained the what; not the why.

No, posting a 45+ minute video isn't the same as supplying evidence for all the reasons I've previously outlined.

As a comparison, and this isn't an invitation to discuss the subject here, were I to start a thread explaining why I believe in the Real Presence, I would introduce the subject, explain why I believe the doctrine has considerable merit with evidence and then, to flesh out my post, I might post a link to a video that expands upon my own ideas in greater depth. But the core of what I believe and why I believe it would be enclosed in my OP.

In brief, though again with respect, I would've done the total opposite of what you did.
Find a video that explains what you want to say. Stop writing, that is so 2016 ...
 
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This would totally fly on LDS threads because they believe the Father has a human body and lives on a planet called Kolob.

Where did they get that from?
 
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I think it's important to keep an open mind about what could happen. The Bible doesn't specify what the delusion will be in the end times. We'll be better prepared if we consider all possibilities.
I do think this world is being prepared for a great delusion and I do think it will involve what are believed to be extraterrestrials from other planets, but they are demons. I do believe that Genesis 6 means exactly what it says about the nephilim, offspring of fallen angels and women. It seems today that the world will be far more willing to except invading aliens as saviors than to except the resurrected Son of God. Or they will come together to fight the returning Son of God because they believe Him to be an invading alien, hmmm seems like it actually says this somewhere? (I know it does) I've been saying this for over 20 years and society is being programmed fast and hard to believe with all the movies and History Channel shows that can be thrown at them. If people don't really believe in the Creator God and His Saving Son then they are left with a gaping spiritual void that Satan is more that happy to fill with a carefully, long planned delusion.
 
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Where in the Bible does it quote anything about aliens from out of space?

Matthew 24:37-38
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating, and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.

In Noah’s day there was a lot of sin which was mainly caused by the fallen angels offspring, the Nephilim and the subsequent descendants which God had to kill off with the flood but Jesus was also alluding to the fact that the last five months on Earth, before His return, would be like the five months that the flood waters covered the Earth in Noah’s time:

Genesis 7:24
The waters flooded the earth for a hundred, and fifty days. [Five months]

This five month period is echoed in Revelation:

Revelation 9:5
They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months.

Revelation 9:10
They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.

Revelation 9:16-19
16 The number of the mounted troops was 200 million. I heard their number. 17 The horses, and riders I saw in my
vision looked like this: Their breastplates were fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulphur. The heads of the horses
resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and sulphur. 18 A third of mankind was killed
by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulphur that came out of their mouths. 19 The power of the horses was in their
mouths and in their tails; for their tails were like snakes, having heads with which they inflict injury.

I believe this is exactly what Satan’s demonic genetic hybrid army will look like and there will be 200 million of
them.

Soon Satan, who will look like Jesus will come with alien technology and will say the Muslims are right and the Christians are wrong; This will cause the apostasy.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith, and follow deceiving spirits, and things taught by
demons.

Then Satan will Select the Muslim Mahdi who is the Anti-Christ at the beginning of the 7 last years. The Anti-Christ will worship this false Jesus as a god and who the Muslims know as 'Isa'. This strange god is spoken of by Daniel:

Daniel 11:38-39
38 Instead of them, he [The Anti-Christ] will honour a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honour with gold, and silver, with precious stones, and costly gifts. 39 And he [The Anti-Christ] shall deal with [attack] the strongest fortresses by the help of a strange god; whosoever acknowledges him he [The Anti-Christ] will increase with glory: and he shall cause them [10 world leaders, the 10 horns] to rule over many, and shall divide the land for a price.

This strange god is also alluded to in Revelation:

Revelation 9:11
They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek is Apollyon
(that is, Destroyer).

Abaddon is the King of the Abyss of Hell and is called the destroyer, who will kill, and steal at every available opportunity:

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

In hell there is an abyss:

Luke 16:26
'And along with all these things, there stands a great abyss between us and you, so that those who would pass from here to you are not able, neither is whoever is there able to pass over to us.'

Abaddon is simply another name for Satan, who is the deceiver and can present himself in numerous ways. Satan will do everything he can to try and control the events of the end times, as this is his last opportunity before he is sent to the Abyss for a thousand years, so he will want to be the main player in this end times scenario and to also be worshipped. Also in Revelation it shows how Satan gives his authority to the Anti-Christ, which he originally stole from Adam and tried to tempt Jesus with:

Revelation 13:2-4
2 The dragon [Satan] gave the beast [The Anti-Christ] his power, and his throne, and great authority. 4 People worshipped the dragon [Satan] because he had given authority to the beast [The Anti-Christ], and they also worshipped the beast, [The Anti-Christ] and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”
 
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In both respect and honesty, I've got limited interested in re-litigating this with you. You laid out the basic case in your initial post... but with no evidence. You explained the what; not the why.

No, posting a 45+ minute video isn't the same as supplying evidence for all the reasons I've previously outlined.

As a comparison, and this isn't an invitation to discuss the subject here, were I to start a thread explaining why I believe in the Real Presence, I would introduce the subject, explain why I believe the doctrine has considerable merit with evidence and then, to flesh out my post, I might post a link to a video that expands upon my own ideas in greater depth. But the core of what I believe and why I believe it would be enclosed in my OP.

In brief, though again with respect, I would've done the total opposite of what you did.

Great, you could have save us both time if you had of just read that in the first place, and by now you could have watch a good portion of the video too if you had of been more efficient with your time. I wonder if you're going to waste more of our time writing reply's as to why you haven't got time to watch it:)
 
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Yes, the Muslims don't worship man made idols but Satan will appear and look like Jesus, a living 'person' and not an inanimate object.

So you're saying that this anti Christ person is the image or statute of the first beast that comes to life in Revelation? Rev 13:14-15 "And with all the miracles he (the second beast aka false prophet) was allowed to perform on behalf of the first beast, he deceived all the people who belong to this world. He ordered the people to make a great statue of the first beast, who was fatally wounded and then came back to life. He was then permitted to give life to this statue so that it could speak. Then the statue of the beast commanded that anyone refusing to worship it must die." (New Living Translation) Strongs 1504 eikón: an image, i.e. lit. statue, fig. representation.
According to Revelation an "inanimate object" comes to life.[/QUOTE]

Not quite what I'm saying is.

Revelation 13:2-4
2 The dragon [Satan] gave the beast [The Anti-Christ] his power, and his throne, and great authority. 3 One of the heads of the beast [The Anti-Christ] seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast [The Anti-Christ]. 4 People worshipped the dragon [Satan] because he had given authority to the beast [The Anti-Christ], and they also worshipped the beast [The Anti-Christ] and asked, “Who is like the beast?[The Anti-Christ] Who can wage war against it?”

Revelation 13:11-15
11 Then I saw a second beast [The False Prophet], coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke
like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast [The Anti-Christ] on its behalf, and made the earth, and its inhabitants worship the first beast [The Anti-Christ], whose fatal wound had been healed. 13 And it performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from Heaven to the earth in full view of the people. 14 Because of the signs it was given power to perform, on behalf of the first beast [The Anti-Christ], it deceived the inhabitants of the earth. It ordered them to set up an image in honour of the beast [The Anti-Christ] who was wounded by the sword, and yet lived. 15 The second beast [The False Prophet] was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast [The Anti-Christ], so that the image could speak, and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed.

Satan will appear to look like Jesus and will claim to be an alien.
The image will be holographic image of the Muslim Mahdi Anti-Christ.
 
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Lol...........All made up stuff! Why is it, that whenever you get so called footage of UFO's etc they are always out of focus etc etc etc. lol

For same reason all footage of distant moving objects are difficult for cameras to keep in focus:

 
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Matthew 24:37-38
37 As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. 38 For in the days before the flood, people were eating, and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.

In Noah’s day there was a lot of sin which was mainly caused by the fallen angels offspring, the Nephilim and the subsequent descendants which God had to kill off with the flood but Jesus was also alluding to the fact that the last five months on Earth, before His return, would be like the five months that the flood waters covered the Earth in Noah’s time:

Genesis 7:24
The waters flooded the earth for a hundred, and fifty days. [Five months]

This five month period is echoed in Revelation:

Revelation 9:5
They were not allowed to kill them but only to torture them for five months.

Revelation 9:10
They had tails with stingers, like scorpions, and in their tails they had power to torment people for five months.

Revelation 9:16-19
16 The number of the mounted troops was 200 million. I heard their number. 17 The horses, and riders I saw in my
vision looked like this: Their breastplates were fiery red, dark blue, and yellow as sulphur. The heads of the horses
resembled the heads of lions, and out of their mouths came fire, smoke, and sulphur. 18 A third of mankind was killed
by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulphur that came out of their mouths. 19 The power of the horses was in their
mouths and in their tails; for their tails were like snakes, having heads with which they inflict injury.

I believe this is exactly what Satan’s demonic genetic hybrid army will look like and there will be 200 million of
them.

Soon Satan, who will look like Jesus will come with alien technology and will say the Muslims are right and the Christians are wrong; This will cause the apostasy.

1 Timothy 4:1
The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith, and follow deceiving spirits, and things taught by
demons.

Then Satan will Select the Muslim Mahdi who is the Anti-Christ at the beginning of the 7 last years. The Anti-Christ will worship this false Jesus as a god and who the Muslims know as 'Isa'. This strange god is spoken of by Daniel:

Daniel 11:38-39
38 Instead of them, he [The Anti-Christ] will honour a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honour with gold, and silver, with precious stones, and costly gifts. 39 And he [The Anti-Christ] shall deal with [attack] the strongest fortresses by the help of a strange god; whosoever acknowledges him he [The Anti-Christ] will increase with glory: and he shall cause them [10 world leaders, the 10 horns] to rule over many, and shall divide the land for a price.

This strange god is also alluded to in Revelation:

Revelation 9:11
They had as king over them the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek is Apollyon
(that is, Destroyer).

Abaddon is the King of the Abyss of Hell and is called the destroyer, who will kill, and steal at every available opportunity:

John 10:10
The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

In hell there is an abyss:

Luke 16:26
'And along with all these things, there stands a great abyss between us and you, so that those who would pass from here to you are not able, neither is whoever is there able to pass over to us.'

Abaddon is simply another name for Satan, who is the deceiver and can present himself in numerous ways. Satan will do everything he can to try and control the events of the end times, as this is his last opportunity before he is sent to the Abyss for a thousand years, so he will want to be the main player in this end times scenario and to also be worshipped. Also in Revelation it shows how Satan gives his authority to the Anti-Christ, which he originally stole from Adam and tried to tempt Jesus with:

Revelation 13:2-4
2 The dragon [Satan] gave the beast [The Anti-Christ] his power, and his throne, and great authority. 4 People worshipped the dragon [Satan] because he had given authority to the beast [The Anti-Christ], and they also worshipped the beast, [The Anti-Christ] and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

Still nothing in any of that to suggest aliens or extra terrestrials!

Just 'YOUR' interpretation of such!
 
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Can you imagine the mush that would be the brains of Christians if we watched every Youtube video posted on CF?

If your not interested in watching any clip here but want to only criticise why people post clips in forums then that's not very productive and is off topic. Perhaps you could start your own thread about this problem you have with watching clips that your not interested in watching in the first place.
 
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Still nothing in any of that to suggest aliens or extra terrestrials!

Just 'YOUR' interpretation of such!

Correct, but my interpretation fits with the evidence of what is going on in the world today and over the last 5987 years.
 
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Correct, but my interpretation fits with the evidence of what is going on in the world today and over the last 5987 years.

I dont see that myself.

There has always been 'signs' throughout history that people interpreted with scripture to claim the end was nigh!
 
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This would totally fly on LDS threads because they believe the Father has a human body and lives on a planet called Kolob.

Well the Kolob is dodgy extra Biblical but as far as what God looks like you can find that in the Bible:

Genesis 1:27
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

John 14:9
Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

Isaiah
Surely the arm of the LORD is not too short to save, nor his ear too dull to hear.

But still off topic; Do you make a habbit of doing this?
 
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I do think this world is being prepared for a great delusion and I do think it will involve what are believed to be extraterrestrials from other planets, but they are demons. I do believe that Genesis 6 means exactly what it says about the nephilim, offspring of fallen angels and women. It seems today that the world will be far more willing to except invading aliens as saviors than to except the resurrected Son of God. Or they will come together to fight the returning Son of God because they believe Him to be an invading alien, hmmm seems like it actually says this somewhere? (I know it does) I've been saying this for over 20 years and society is being programmed fast and hard to believe with all the movies and History Channel shows that can be thrown at them. If people don't really believe in the Creator God and His Saving Son then they are left with a gaping spiritual void that Satan is more that happy to fill with a carefully, long planned delusion.

Absolutely right!
The verses you refer to are:

Revelation 16:16
Then they gathered the kings together to the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.

Rev 19:19Then I saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army.
 
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You can see they are what they are though!

No more than UFO's. The point is that they are unidentified. We a familiar with aeroplanes not unidentified objects that come in all shapes and sizes and behave in ways that break the conventional laws of physics.
 
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I dont see that myself.

There has always been 'signs' throughout history that people interpreted with scripture to claim the end was nigh!

That's your opinion and I respect that. I just have a different interpretation. Please just bear in mind what i have told you about what will happen so that you are prepared when it does.
 
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