Satan's End Times Alien Deception

[Jipsah]

Where in the Bible does it quote anything about aliens from out of space?

10th Chapter of Jude

 

[Jipsah]

This would totally fly on LDS threads because they believe the Father has a human body and lives on a planet called Kolob.

In a really nice neighborhood...

 

[Jipsah]

No more than UFO's. The point is that they are unidentified.

Pretty much all unidentified flying things are airplanes. (Except for that weird long-billed bird I found, which turned out to be a woodcock. But it had certainly been an unidentified flying object for a while.)

We a familiar with aeroplanes not unidentified objects that come in all shapes and sizes and behave in ways that break the conventional laws of physics.

Any observer who claims that he observed an object that "defied the laws of physics" has just invalidated himself as an observer. No physical object defies the laws of physics, which are in fact the laws of God.

 

[Jipsah]

You can see they are what they are though!

I'v found that pretty much evetrything is what it is and is not what it is not

 

[Jipsah]

The scriptures are not there for you to pick the one's you like or to be interpreted the way you like. Preterism is complete bunkum.

So things that have already happened haven't really already happened, right? Temple hasn't been destroyed, sacrifice hasn't ceased, Jerusalem never compassed about by armies, none of that stuff. Or maybe it just didn't count, right?

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Utter bunkum

You won't be saying that by 2022.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Sorry, but some dude blathering on a youtube vid isn't in any way "scientific proof" of anything except people's gullibility.

You're quite pointedly ignoring the fact that the guy who was cited as a source for a lot of the bogus claims (aka putrid lies) in the first vid explicitly denies that there's a shred of truth in it. Oops, can't pay any attention to him, now can we?

As soon as you cite "counter evidence" to my claim that I'm the rightful Czar of All the Russias and have $367,482,641.18 US in a Swiss bank. i'll wait.

Peer-reviewed articles have been evaluated by several researchers or subject specialist in the academic community prior to accepting it for publication. Also known as scholarly or refereed. You don't know what is involved in Peer-review or you wouldn't have said that.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

I worked with a living person who looked a lot like pictures of our Lord, but somehow nobody believed that he was. And Muslims see the Lord as simply a prophet, a fore-runner to Mahound. They wouldn't worship Him.

But your colleague didn't have fleets of UFO's.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Except for the lack of aliens of any kind, demonic or otherwise, and the utter silence of Scripture on the subject. Other than that, uh, well, nada.

Daniel 11:38-39
38 Instead of them, he [The Anti-Christ] will honour a god of fortresses; a god unknown to his ancestors he will honour with gold, and silver, with precious stones, and costly gifts. 39 And he [The Anti-Christ] shall deal with [attack] the strongest fortresses by the help of a strange god; whosoever acknowledges him he [The Anti-Christ]will increase with glory: and he shall cause them [10 world leaders] to rule over many, and shall divide the land for a price.

The strange god helping the Muslim Mahdi Anti-Christ is Satan posing as an alien.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

So a guy who looks like Jesus shows up, and the majority of people on the planet who've never cared anything about Jesus at all will be ready to fall down and worship him. In addition, he'll tell them that Islam is correct, and Islam says that Jesus was only a prophet, kinda making that announcement less than earth-shattering, huh? This whole construct is monumentally dumb.

At least you will be aware of it when it happens. Only 5 years to go.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

There's that "prove it ain't true" schtick again. Burdens on you, hoss. Prove it is true, else no one should believe it.

I already did: Scientific Studies Confirm: “Crop Circles Are Made by Balls of Light”. Dr Eltjo Hasselhoff
Scientific Studies Confirm: "Crop Circles Are Made by Balls of Light” | Humans Are Free

 

[Guide To The Bible]

So things that have already happened haven't really already happened, right? Temple hasn't been destroyed, sacrifice hasn't ceased, Jerusalem never compassed about by armies, none of that stuff. Or maybe it just didn't count, right?

Edit: Full Preterism

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Pretty much all unidentified flying things are airplanes. (Except for that weird long-billed bird I found, which turned out to be a woodcock. But it had certainly been an unidentified flying object for a while.)

Any observer who claims that he observed an object that "defied the laws of physics" has just invalidated himself as an observer. No physical object defies the laws of physics, which are in fact the laws of God.

'conventional laws of physics' as in the laws of physics as currently accepted by most scientists. Current understand changes over time.

 

[Goatee]

You won't be saying that by 2022.

And when 2022 comes around you will then change the goal posts yet again!

 

[Goatee]

I already did: Scientific Studies Confirm: “Crop Circles Are Made by Balls of Light”. Dr Eltjo Hasselhoff
Scientific Studies Confirm: "Crop Circles Are Made by Balls of Light” | Humans Are Free

Crop circles are made by people

 

[Guide To The Bible]

Crop circles are made by people

Not according to science as posted to you which you've simply ignored.

 

[Goatee]

Not according to science as posted to you which you've simply ignored.

No, not ignored. Its well known that people make them.

 

[Guide To The Bible]

No, not ignored. Its well known that people make them.

Yes you have ignored it. Here it is below. Please note the scientific peer review results concluded a 100% correlation which proves that most crop circles are not man made, I hope you understand what peer review involves?:

DR. ELTJO HASELHOFF is one of the few people on planet Earth to have had a paper published on crop circles in a peer-reviewed scientific journal (‘Physiologa Plantarum’). His paper asserts that the long-recognized connection of crop circles to balls of light may be even stronger than many think. Here, in layman’s terms, Dr. Haselhoff outlines the important findings of his paper.

Over the years, numerous people have claimed that they have seen how a crop circle was created by one or more "balls of light".

Recent scientific studies have confirmed these statements: Circumstantial evidence has shown that crop circles may very well be made by ‘balls of light' indeed! This article explains the essential elements of these studies in simple terms.






Although there are known biological effects that can create node lengthening, these could be easily ruled out. It was clear that something else had happened. The effect could be simulated by placing normal, healthy stems inside a microwave oven.

The heat induced by the microwaves made the liquids inside the nodes expand, just like the mercury inside a thermometer. This caused the nodes to increase in length, while the amount of lengthening increased proportionally to the amount of microwave energy that was generated.

This finding led to the conclusion that the node lengthening effect may be caused by the involvement of heat, possibly caused by microwave radiation. In fact, traces of heat have been found innumerable times in crop circles all over the world, such as dehydrated plants, burn marks, and molten snow.

BALLS OF LIGHT

The number of ‘balls of light' that have been seen by eyewitnesses has increased considerably over the last couple of years. Sized somewhere between an egg and a football, these bright, fluorescent, flying light objects seem to be somehow related to the crop circle phenomenon. They often appear in the fields during the night a crop circle forms, and have been seen (and filmed!) many times in and around crop circles. Several persons have even claimed that they witnessed how these balls of light actually created a crop circle.

SCIENCE RESPONDS

In the year 1999, William Levengood and Nancy Talbott published a scientific paper [1] that contained a study to the node lengthening effect in three different crop circles, two in England and one in the USA. The authors presented a ‘quantitative analysis’; in other words, the article tried to explain the AMOUNT of node lengthening throughout the crop circle, by means of physical models. The authors concluded that the heat (that had made the nodes swell) was electromagnetic in origin.

One year later, I contributed a paper reacting to the one by Levengood and Talbott. This article appeared early 2001 [2]. The paper reinterpreted the data published by Levengood and Talbott and showed that the node lengthening as measured in all three crop circles could be perfectly explained by assuming that a ‘ball of light’ had caused the node swelling effect. An identical analysis performed on a famous man-made formation (Dreischor, Holland, 1997) did not show these characteristics at all.

My statements can be interpreted as follows: Imagine a dark room with one single light bulb hanging on the ceiling. If you switch on the light, you will notice that right below the light bulb the light intensity on the floor will be brightest. Towards the edges of the room, the floor will gradually become darker. This light distribution on the floor is well understood, and can be described with high accuracy.



The exact light distribution on the floor depends on the HEIGHT of the light bulb. When the light bulb is hanging very low, almost touching the floor, the floor underneath the light bulb will be very bright, but the intensity will rapidly become less as you move away from it (see Figure 3, left).

When the light is hanging high on the ceiling, however, the light intensity underneath the light will be much less and be more evenly distributed over the floor (see Figure 3, right). Because this mechanism is so well known, one can actually derive the height of the light bulb after measuring the light distribution on the floor.

This is what I suggested. As explained above, the swollen nodes inside the crop circles may be thought of as many little thermometers, expanding their length with increasing heat. If one assumes that the heat was induced by a small spherical shape emitting electromagnetic radiation, the theoretical heat distribution on the floor can be accurately determined (similarly to the case of the light bulb, as discussed above).

I demonstrated that the measured node lengths in all of the three crop circles studies by Levengood and Talbott perfectly matched the temperature distribution that would be caused by a small ball of light, hanging in the air above the centre of the circles, emitting intense heat.

An identical analysis was repeated on a formation in Holland [3]. An eye witness claimed that this crop circle was created in a matter of seconds, while a "ball of light" was floating in the air, right above the centre of the circle [4]. Figure 4 shows the results.

The yellow bars indicate the average node length measured at seven different locations across the crop circle, from one edge (position b1), through the centre (a4), to the opposite edge (b7). Note the perfect symmetry, which is remarkable! Similar graphs were obtained from two different cross sections through the circle, revealing a perfect circular symmetry: long nodes towards the centre of the circle, shorter nodes towards the edges.

The thick, continuous, blueish line represents the theoretical value of the node length across the circle, if it were caused by a ball of light at a height of 4 meters and 10 centimetres. (This height corresponded to the estimate of the eyewitness). Just like the three crop circles analysed by Levengood and Talbott, the theoretical values for the node length (blue line) correspond perfectly to the measurements (yellow bars).

Consequently, the circumstantial evidence left in the fields was in perfect agreement with the words of the eyewitness: the crop circle was indeed created with the involvement of a "ball of light".

CONCLUSIONS

My paper shows that the node lengthening in several crop circles corresponds perfectly to the effect that would be created by a ball of light, heating up the crop during the creation of the crop circle. This is not the case for a man-made formation.

The amount of node lengthening, and in particular its symmetry over the crop circles, lack any trivial explanation. Consequently, the study confirms the words of eyewitnesses, stating that they saw how crop circles were created by "balls of light."

My paper does not attempt to explain where the balls of light come from, nor does it explain how the crop is flattened. It does, however, give a strong argument to take the "ball of light" phenomenon, as well as the words of eyewitnesses, very seriously, and I hope will stimulate further study.

Finally, it should be mentioned that all these findings and conclusions have been published in ‘peer-reviewed’ scientific journals. In order to guarantee a high level of reliability, such journals employ so-called ‘referees’ (objective, anonymous experts), who accurately check each contributed paper for errors and inconsistencies before it is published.

Consequently, conclusions published in peer-reviewed scientific journals can not be simply dismissed as wild fantasy or pseudo-science. Therefore, it is fair to say that recent scientific findings have established considerable progress in understanding the crop circle phenomenon, although many questions still remain unanswered.

REFERENCES

[1] W C Levengood, N P Talbott, ‘Dispersion of energies in worldwide crop formations’, Physiol. Plant. 105: 615-624 (1999).

[2] E H Haselhoff, ‘Comment to Physiol. Plant. 105: 615-624", Physiol. Plant. 111: 123-125 (2001).

[3] E H Haselhoff, dcccs.org - This website is for sale! - dcccs Resources and Information. (not available anymore)

[4] See, for example, N P Talbott, 1999 Crop Circle Articles orBarbury Crop Circle Witnessed in PERU (not available anymore).

By DR ELTJO HASELHOFF

 

[ToBeLoved]

In a really nice neighborhood...

I'm sure it's a very nice neighborhood. The Father lives there with a diety the LDS call heavenly mother and they well, have babies and then send them to earth. And the special, chosen children become Mormons, who are training to have their own planet in the afterlife.

 

[Sammy-San]

10th Chapter of Jude

Angels not aliens.