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Paul does put them in their correct sequence.

First, 1Thessalonians4:16-17 is about the resurrection/rapture.

Then, 1Thessalonians5:1-3 is about the beginning of the day of the Lord.
Firstly - save us from your charts! You promote a resurrection/rapture, something never Prophesied in the Bible. Errors upon mistakes.

1 Thess 4:16-17 is quite plainly about the Return of Jesus, not unexpected and seen by all.
1 Thess 5:1-3, Paul refers to things before that glorious day and says how the Day of the Lords wrath, when He destroys the attackers of Israel, will come suddenly and unexpectedly. As Zephaniah 1:14-18, +, vividly describes.
Obviously, the world changing Day of the Lords fiery wrath is before Jesus Returns. As Revelation 6:12-17 & 14:17-20 tell us.
 
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Paul does put them in their correct sequence.

First, 1Thessalonians4:16-17 is about the resurrection/rapture.

Then, 1Thessalonians5:1-3 is about the beginning of the day of the Lord.

The resurrection/rapture will take place before the beginning of the day of the Lord, when God's wrath will begin to be poured out. The day of the Lord will begin when the Antichrist commits the transgression of desolation act described in 2Thessalonians2:4

That act will draw the ire of God, and God will begin to pour out his wrath. Beginning with having the Antichrist (the revealed man of sin) assassinated (Ezekiel 28:1-10).



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And your chart says THE TRANSGRESSION of DESOLUTIION of 2 Thess 2:4 , try Daniel 9:27.

and just where is. the word RAPTURE found in. the KJV , please ??

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And your chart says THE TRANSGRESSION of DESOLUTIION of 2 Thess 2:4 , try Daniel 9:27.

and just where is. the word RAPTURE found in. the KJV , please ??

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"rapture" the word is not found in the kjv. I think it has been adopted (when, I don't know) so that one word encapsulates the sudden changing in a twinkling of any eye, as Paul described in 1Corinthians15:51-52.

1Corinthians15:
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

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The transgression of desolation reference is Daniel 8:13. It will be an act.

Differently, the abomination of desolation reference in Daniel 12:11-12, Matthew 24:15, will be a statue image.
 
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Firstly - save us from your charts! You promote a resurrection/rapture, something never Prophesied in the Bible. Errors upon mistakes.

1 Thess 4:16-17 is quite plainly about the Return of Jesus, not unexpected and seen by all.
1 Thess 5:1-3, Paul refers to things before that glorious day and says how the Day of the Lords wrath, when He destroys the attackers of Israel, will come suddenly and unexpectedly. As Zephaniah 1:14-18, +, vividly describes.
Obviously, the world changing Day of the Lords fiery wrath is before Jesus Returns. As Revelation 6:12-17 & 14:17-20 tell us.
1Thessalonians4:16-18, Paul spoke about the resurrection/rapture. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1Thessalonians5:9-11, Paul spoke about the resurrection/rapture . 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
 
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1Thessalonians4:16-18, Paul spoke about the resurrection/rapture. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1Thessalonians5:9-11, Paul spoke about the resurrection/rapture . 11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.

Luke 21:36 Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.
Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Such a thing as a 'resurrection/rapture', is never stated in the Bible. It is purely a figment of your imagination.
Luke 21:36, refers to protection, not removal. Luke 21:18-19
Matthew 24:42 refers to the next event; the Lords Day of fiery wrath. Not His glorious Return.
 
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"rapture" the word is not found in the kjv. I think it has been adopted (when, I don't know) so that one word encapsulates the sudden changing in a twinkling of any eye, as Paul described in 1Corinthians15:51-52.

1Corinthians15:
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

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The transgression of desolation reference is Daniel 8:13. It will be an act.

Differently, the abomination of desolation reference in Daniel 12:11-12, Matthew 24:15, will be a statue image.
And this happened years ago m About some 60 years ago , when a. Pastor from from a bigger assembly was teaching that

Sunday some were reaching that there was no word in the Bible called RAPTURE. and it was years later that that they were

using LATIN word to. prove there was WORD CALLED rapture and was years later , that checking the Greek

Text , I could not find it and now I check the Greek and Hebrew text always !!

dan p
 
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