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That's a fair point. Also:

In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door (Matthew 24:33) :amen:


But the Bible writers implied his return was very near, right at the door, as in any day for them in their lifetimes.
 
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But the Bible writers implied his return was very near, right at the door, as in any day for them in their lifetimes.
Didn't happen though did it. They interpreted it timing incorrectly.
 
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That's exactly what I'm saying. If they got it wrong, how are we to be sure it would happen at all?
I suggest you read Revelations and Daniel and then tell me what you think. The more you study End times the clearer it becomes that this is the time we are living in.

Do you know about God's 7000 year plan?
 
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I suggest you read Revelations and Daniel and then tell me what you think. The more you study End times the clearer it becomes that this is the time we are living in.

Do you know about God's 7000 year plan?
Is that the plan on your internet site? Why did God give that to you?
 
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Is that the plan on your internet site? Why did God give that to you?

It's a well known subject in eschatology:

In John chapter 1 & 2 John deliberately calls the sixth day in his diarised account, the ‘third day’ when the wedding in Cana took place [You may want to open your bible and count them for yourself]:

John 2:1
On the third day [Day 6] a wedding took place at Cana in
Galilee.

John’s Gospel lists six days in row but calls day six the third day, whether by divine inspiration or intentional literary device, by naming day six as the third day when a wedding took place, this reveals a prophetic message that is alluded to throughout the Bible, where days, weeks, months, and years are interchanged to help explain Biblical prophecy. Such as where it equates a day to a thousand years, as mentioned in the first ever Psalm written by Moses:

Psalm 90:4
A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.

And also repeated by Peter:

2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the LORD a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years
are like a day.

John’s Gospel states that on the third day a wedding took place, this use of three days are also used elsewhere in the Bible:

Luke 13:32
And he said unto them, “Go ye and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out demons, and I do cures today and tomorrow, and
the third day I shall be perfected”.

And . . .

Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.

Also . . .

Exodus 19:10-19
10 And the LORD said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their
clothes 11 and be ready by the third day, because on that day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight
of all the people. 12 Put limits for the people around the mountain and tell them, ‘Be careful that you do not approach
the mountain or touch the foot of it. Whoever touches the mountain is to be put to death. 13 They are to be stoned or
shot with arrows; not a hand is to be laid on them. No person or animal shall be permitted to live.’ Only when the ram’s
horn sounds a long blast may they approach the mountain.” 14 After Moses had gone down the mountain to the people,
he consecrated them, and they washed their clothes. 15 Then he said to the people, “Prepare yourselves for the third
day. Abstain from sexual relations.” 16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick
cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled. 17 Then Moses led the
people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. 18 Mount Sinai was covered
with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and
the whole mountain trembled violently. 19 As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the
voice of God answered him.

This allusion to the third day points to when Jesus will have His Wedding Feast with His Bride the Church at the beginning of the third millennium from Christ’s First Coming, this will then usher in Jesus’ Millennial Reign that’s mentioned in Revelation:

Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who
had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped
the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned
with Christ a thousand years.

After all Jesus said He is Lord of the Sabbath:

Matthew 12:8
“For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

This verse is also in reference to the thousand year reign of Christ, which is the prophetic thousand year Sabbath ‘day’, which has been God’s plan from the beginning, as these verses also allude to:

Genesis 2:17
“but of the tree of the knowledge of good, and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Adam died a spiritual death the day he ate the fruit, but he also died a physical death after 930 years, which was
within 1000 years, a prophetic day. However, God also possibly hints at when the curse would be lifted:

Genesis 6:3
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a
hundred, and twenty years.”

From then on a person’s life was limited to approximately 120 years, but this was not exact for everyone of course, and it is also ambiguous as to whether this was God’s prediction of when the flood would come, so God may have been giving us a hint that His 120 ‘years’ could instead be considered as 120 Jubilees, till the end of the age, when the curse will be lifted. Indeed, the Bible dates the age of the Earth to nearly 6,000 years old. Adding the millennial reign to this reveals the 7,000
year prophetic time frame, with six ‘days’ of labour and a millennial ‘Sabbath’ rest. This idea is also revealed in Jewish
tradition, which teaches about the ‘Day of the awakening’ which will take place after 6,000 years, indeed the Jews
date the earth to just less than 6,000 years old as well, just as the Biblical genealogies and historical records show.
Therefore, 120 Jubilees of 50 years each = 6,000 years. This means that Jesus may have come in the 80th Jubilee
year, the 4,000th year from creation and will come again at the 120th Jubilee, the 6,000th year, on the Great and
terrible day of the LORD, the day of vengeance:

Isaiah 63:4
For the day of vengeance is in my heart, And the year of my redeemed hath come.

The year of His redeemed was Jesus’ one year ministry [Yes that's right it was only just over a year long: Jesus’ One Year Ministry ]. Jesus was raised to life on the third day, and so shall we who are in Him be raised to life in the third millennium from His first coming. This time frame is also alluded to in the week of creation, where after six days of work God rested, and so shall there be a 1,000 year Sabbath rest, after 6,000 years of striving by mankind.

There are many allusions throughout the Bible to this six thousand year process, for example when Jacob took care
of Laban’s sheep and goats for six years, and through a process of breeding, and epigenetics, which is a process
that can change an animal’s DNA functioning, through diet, in order to change its physical appearance in this case. Jacob thus managed to double cross Laban, and set the healthy flocks free in the seventh year. Another time this prophetic day terminology is used is in these verses:

John 4:35-41
35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labour.” 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.

Samaritans were seen as worse than Gentiles and treated as such. Jesus reveals that just as He was with the Samaritans for two days, He will be with the Gentiles for two thousand years which is what has happened during what has been called the Church age or the times of the Gentiles. However, this will come to an end when there will be the harvest of mankind at the end of the age. The six thousand years, if equated to twelve months, would mean that four months equates to two thousand years, just as Jesus said; “It’s still four months until harvest!”

Seven times the Bible instructs us that there are six days for work and on the Seventh we rest: Exodus 20:9, 23:12, 31:15, 34:21, 35:2, Leviticus 23:3, and Deuteronomy 5:12-13, and every week of our lives we are reminded of this Biblical prophetic plan God has for mankind. The year of Jesus’ redemption for mankind took place at His first coming when He died and was raised to life.
 
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It's a well known subject in eschatology:

In John chapter 1 & 2 John deliberately calls the sixth day in his diarised account, the ‘third day’ when the wedding in Cana took place [You may want to open your bible and count them for yourself]:

John 2:1
On the third day [Day 6] a wedding took place at Cana in
Galilee.

John’s Gospel lists six days in row but calls day six the third day, whether by divine inspiration or intentional literary device, by naming day six as the third day when a wedding took place, this reveals a prophetic message that is alluded to throughout the Bible, where days, weeks, months, and years are interchanged to help explain Biblical prophecy. Such as where it equates a day to a thousand years, as mentioned in the first ever Psalm written by Moses:

Psalm 90:4
A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.

And also repeated by Peter:

2 Peter 3:8
But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the LORD a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years
are like a day.

John’s Gospel states that on the third day a wedding took place, this use of three days are also used elsewhere in the Bible:

Luke 13:32
And he said unto them, “Go ye and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out demons, and I do cures today and tomorrow, and
the third day I shall be perfected”.

And . . .

Hosea 6:2
After two days he will revive us; on the third day he will restore us, that we may live in his presence.

Also . . .

Exodus 19:10-19
10 And the LORD said to Moses, “Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow. Have them wash their
clothes 11 and be ready by the third day, because on that day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight
of all the people. 12 Put limits for the people around the mountain and tell them, ‘Be careful that you do not approach
the mountain or touch the foot of it. Whoever touches the mountain is to be put to death. 13 They are to be stoned or
shot with arrows; not a hand is to be laid on them. No person or animal shall be permitted to live.’ Only when the ram’s
horn sounds a long blast may they approach the mountain.” 14 After Moses had gone down the mountain to the people,
he consecrated them, and they washed their clothes. 15 Then he said to the people, “Prepare yourselves for the third
day. Abstain from sexual relations.” 16 On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick
cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled. 17 Then Moses led the
people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain. 18 Mount Sinai was covered
with smoke, because the LORD descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and
the whole mountain trembled violently. 19 As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the
voice of God answered him.

This allusion to the third day points to when Jesus will have His Wedding Feast with His Bride the Church at the beginning of the third millennium from Christ’s First Coming, this will then usher in Jesus’ Millennial Reign that’s mentioned in Revelation:

Revelation 20:4
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who
had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshipped
the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned
with Christ a thousand years.

After all Jesus said He is Lord of the Sabbath:

Matthew 12:8
“For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

This verse is also in reference to the thousand year reign of Christ, which is the prophetic thousand year Sabbath ‘day’, which has been God’s plan from the beginning, as these verses also allude to:

Genesis 2:17
“but of the tree of the knowledge of good, and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” Adam died a spiritual death the day he ate the fruit, but he also died a physical death after 930 years, which was
within 1000 years, a prophetic day. However, God also possibly hints at when the curse would be lifted:

Genesis 6:3
Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a
hundred, and twenty years.”

From then on a person’s life was limited to approximately 120 years, but this was not exact for everyone of course, and it is also ambiguous as to whether this was God’s prediction of when the flood would come, so God may have been giving us a hint that His 120 ‘years’ could instead be considered as 120 Jubilees, till the end of the age, when the curse will be lifted. Indeed, the Bible dates the age of the Earth to nearly 6,000 years old. Adding the millennial reign to this reveals the 7,000
year prophetic time frame, with six ‘days’ of labour and a millennial ‘Sabbath’ rest. This idea is also revealed in Jewish
tradition, which teaches about the ‘Day of the awakening’ which will take place after 6,000 years, indeed the Jews
date the earth to just less than 6,000 years old as well, just as the Biblical genealogies and historical records show.
Therefore, 120 Jubilees of 50 years each = 6,000 years. This means that Jesus may have come in the 80th Jubilee
year, the 4,000th year from creation and will come again at the 120th Jubilee, the 6,000th year, on the Great and
terrible day of the LORD, the day of vengeance:

Isaiah 63:4
For the day of vengeance is in my heart, And the year of my redeemed hath come.

The year of His redeemed was Jesus’ one year ministry [Yes that's right it was only just over a year long: Jesus’ One Year Ministry ]. Jesus was raised to life on the third day, and so shall we who are in Him be raised to life in the third millennium from His first coming. This time frame is also alluded to in the week of creation, where after six days of work God rested, and so shall there be a 1,000 year Sabbath rest, after 6,000 years of striving by mankind.

There are many allusions throughout the Bible to this six thousand year process, for example when Jacob took care
of Laban’s sheep and goats for six years, and through a process of breeding, and epigenetics, which is a process
that can change an animal’s DNA functioning, through diet, in order to change its physical appearance in this case. Jacob thus managed to double cross Laban, and set the healthy flocks free in the seventh year. Another time this prophetic day terminology is used is in these verses:

John 4:35-41
35 Don’t you have a saying, ‘It’s still four months until harvest’? I tell you, open your eyes and look at the fields! They are ripe for harvest. 36 Even now the one who reaps draws a wage and harvests a crop for eternal life, so that the sower and the reaper may be glad together. 37 Thus the saying ‘One sows and another reaps’ is true. 38 I sent you to reap what you have not worked for. Others have done the hard work, and you have reaped the benefits of their labour.” 39 Many of the Samaritans from that town believed in him because of the woman’s testimony, “He told me everything I ever did.” 40 So when the Samaritans came to him, they urged him to stay with them, and he stayed two days. 41 And because of his words many more became believers.

Samaritans were seen as worse than Gentiles and treated as such. Jesus reveals that just as He was with the Samaritans for two days, He will be with the Gentiles for two thousand years which is what has happened during what has been called the Church age or the times of the Gentiles. However, this will come to an end when there will be the harvest of mankind at the end of the age. The six thousand years, if equated to twelve months, would mean that four months equates to two thousand years, just as Jesus said; “It’s still four months until harvest!”

Seven times the Bible instructs us that there are six days for work and on the Seventh we rest: Exodus 20:9, 23:12, 31:15, 34:21, 35:2, Leviticus 23:3, and Deuteronomy 5:12-13, and every week of our lives we are reminded of this Biblical prophetic plan God has for mankind. The year of Jesus’ redemption for mankind took place at His first coming when He died and was raised to life.
But that was my point.
I suppose one could imagine something well known regarding end times theology, but if such predictions vary and I know they do, in what sense can say well known is meaningful?
How could even say the diversion painted here is "well known?
We have been given no reference besides oneself for support in a magical 6000 years to end in 24 Sep 2029.
So in what sense is any of this "well known" except to you? And why you and not someone else?
 
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But that was my point.
I suppose one could imagine something well known regarding end times theology, but if such predictions vary and I know they do, in what sense can say well known is meaningful?
How could even say the diversion painted here is "well known?
We have been given no reference besides oneself for support in a magical 6000 years to end in 24 Sep 2029.
So in what sense is any of this "well known" except to you? And why you and not someone else?
Sorry what I meant is that the 7000 year plan of God was around before me, it goes back to Judaism somewhere. I forget now. Finding the end date however is me, and also another Christian over in Oregano:
no man knows that day and that hour
 
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Sorry what I meant is that the 7000 year plan of God was around before me, it goes back Judaism somewhere. I forget now. Finding the end date however is me, and also another Christian over in Oregano:
no man knows that day and that hour
That is rather my point and we can just allow people to pretend that 7000 years is the only answer "known" floating around in eschatology I guess, though am unclear why we should. So will let that go except to point out it is not by any means true that such things are "known" let alone "well known". You could say you happen to agree with those that claim 7000 sounds like a good number, but it is by no means the only guess out there. Also by no means true that even all ideas out of endtimes theology contain anything like any of the claims made here in this thread. That is what is actually KNOWN. But we can play along.

If no one including the Son of Man was told, why did God tell you this?
 
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That is rather my point and we can just allow people to pretend that 7000 years is the only answer "known" floating around in eschatology I guess, though am unclear why we should. So will let that go except to point out it is not by any means true that such things are "known" let alone "well known". You could say you happen to agree with those that claim 7000 sounds like a good number, but it is by no means the only guess out there. Also by no means true that even all ideas out of endtimes theology contain anything like any of the claims made here in this thread. That is what is actually KNOWN. But we can play along.

If no one including the Son of Man was told, why did God tell you this?
Well It's just what's written in the Bible that's all:
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Well It's just what's written in the Bible that's all:
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Well if that were true then wouldn't everyone have the same chart, dates and matching numbers in all their books of $21 on Amazon?
Again, why did God tell you this but not His Son?
Why would He give all the various different numbers to the other guys hawking their books and not the same numbers?
 
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Well if that were true then wouldn't everyone have the same chart, dates and matching numbers in all their books of $21 on Amazon?
Again, why did God tell you this but not His Son?
Why would He give all the various different numbers to the other guys hawking their books and not the same numbers?

As i have said before I'm not the only Christian to have calculated this as the date of Jesus’ return; Michael Haller, Oregon, USA has also worked this out, here is his website: no man knows that day and that hour

And the following eight others have also worked out that 2029 is the year for varying reasons, some also point to September:

LOGOS TELOS | The Prophetic Word

http://www.everlastingkingdom.info/article/163/ http://www.creation-

answers.com/chronoj.htm http://www.888c.com/ResurrectionDating.htm

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090603154841AASrlXv

https://holyhiway.wordpress.com/2010/08/02/timing-of-christs-return/

http://www.messianictorah.org/en/manna_en/32-7en.htm

http://ihs-wa.net/Downloads/Jesus_Return_AD_2027-2029.pdf

http://www.talkjesus.com/threads/what-is-the-key-sign-for-the-return-of-jesus.50997/

Also Krentzeim and W. Dolen have calculated the age of the earth to 3971 BC like myself. You can too if you took the time:
How Old Is the Earth?
 
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There's not really much of a difference tbh. That looks like white Jesus/Cesare Borgia


I find the whole effort to racially categorize Jesus exceedingly distracting and irrelevant to salvation. It can be taken to such an extreme that the salvation issue becomes secondary to how he looked. I had one African American almost willing to throw hands over it.
 
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I posted it below but that would require for you to spend time watching it but most people don't have the patients to spend even a second of their time looking into anything other than whatever they are already interested in and most people don't understand the scientific method or how to practice this. You need both the inclination and a scientific 'mind' to understand this phenomenon. Only about 1 in 10 will actually even look at information posted and there's again only about a 1 in 10 chance they will watch or read all of it. And even if they or you did watch all of it there's again only about a 1 in 10 chance that you would go to the internet and research the subject to answer any questions you might have about it. That's why only about 1 in a 1000 Christian's understand what Satan is about to do.

Well each to his own, but I go to the Bible to find evidence and learn my theology, not Youtube.
And the idea that we should Google to find out what Satan is about to do; is ridiculous.
 
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As i have said before I'm not the only Christian to have calculated this as the date of Jesus’ return; Michael Haller, Oregon, USA has also worked this out, here is his website: no man knows that day and that hour

Maybe he should take note of the title of his own website.
"No one knows the day or hour" means no one; not "the vast majority of people won't, but you can work it out if you're clever enough".

I can't imagine why some people think they know better than the Son of God.
 
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Well each to his own, but I go to the Bible to find evidence and learn my theology, not Youtube.
And the idea that we should Google to find out what Satan is about to do; is ridiculous.
I rather we not talk for a while, it's not going to help either of us. Thank you.
Proverbs 29:9
 
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