My Marble Challenge

[AV1611VET]

It's what is often called a 'deepity' - something that is superficially true or logical, but lacks any interesting substance.

Well here's a good "deepity":

Science is myopic.

 

[AV1611VET]

Genesis is a myth,

Now you're mything the point.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Well here's a good "deepity":

Science is myopic.

Nah, that's just false.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Now you're mything the point.

Lazy repetition.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nah, that's just false.

Good ... then show me a picture of a furthermost sun.

One that is sitting at the closest point to the actual physical horizon of the universe.

Or can't science see beyond the particle horizon?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Good ... then show me a picture of a furthermost sun.

One that is sitting at the closest point to the actual physical horizon of the universe.

Or can't science see beyond the particle horizon?

Science isn't an instrument, it's a method for knowledge acquisition - without which we wouldn't know of the furthermost suns and particle horizons.

Having said that, not being able to observable beyond the limits of the observable is myopia like not being able to hear the inaudible is deafness.

 

[AV1611VET]

Having said that, not being able to observable beyond the limits of the observable is myopia like not being able to hear the inaudible is deafness.

Fine.

Science is blind then.

At least I was willing to give them SOME credit.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

At least I was willing to give them SOME credit.

With credit like that, who needs criticism?

 

[durangodawood]

If a marble is created ex nihilo, raising the amount of mass/energy in the universe accordingly, is it wrong to deny it on the basis of not having evidence of same?

Yes. Its wrong.

Even if it actually happened, on average its not the kind of thing we'd expect to have evidence of.

So, for me, I would doubt it rather than deny it.

 

[AV1611VET]

So, for me, I would doubt it rather than deny it.

Very good point!

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Probably because their is no quantized "marble field" pervading the universe. Marbles are composite objects made of composite objects (molecules) made of composite objects (atoms) made of fundamental particles (electrons) and composite particles (nucleons) made of fundamental particles (quarks and gluons).

Please continue. You'll eventually arrive at...spirit.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

 

[Hans Blaster]

Please continue. You'll eventually arrive at...spirit.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

That's as far down as things go. Quarks & gluons are fundamental particles. No further to go.

 

[Kylie]

Please continue. You'll eventually arrive at...spirit.

Hebrews 11:3
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

That doesn't count as proof that your claims are correct.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

That doesn't count as proof that your claims are correct.

I trust that science wlll eventually do that work for me (of course they might not tell anyone).

 

[Larniavc]

Very good point!

Haven’t seen you around for a bit. Are you good?

 

[Kylie]

I trust that science wlll eventually do that work for me (of course they might not tell anyone).

You have faith that science will render your faith unnecessary?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Haven’t seen you around for a bit. Are you good?

That post was from October 28 of this year. He has been gone since November 4th.

 

[Larniavc]

That post was from October 28 of this year. He has been gone since November 4th.

Hope he’s okay. I also wonder what happened to Armoured (I think that’s his name- Australian guy).

 

[AV1611VET]

Haven’t seen you around for a bit. Are you good?

Doing fine, Larnievc!

Thanks for asking!

 

[Kylie]

Welcome back AV! You had us worried there! Hope everything's okay.